But the opponent was aggressive and provocative. They really are ridiculous. On the Tautai one the other week they in defence claim it was "almost a perfect tackle"

Now re that part of the incident I don't have a problem with FPN's actions. LMS deserved a good smack then.

If LMS wants to do petty things like touching someone's face in that manner then he should expect a response. A bit like Fielden v Willie Mason.

And you're right, HOWEVER lms wouldn't have done that had the scuffle not just occurred, and the scuffle wouldn't have occurred had fpn not decided to take the law in his own hands and tackle a player without the ball, who wasn't a dummy runner and was just standing still,because fpn had decided he didn't want to play rugby league any more.

I realize that's a separate incident in its own right but good lord that's a serious aggravating factor. I'm amazed he hasn't been given a bollocking for that.

LMS also offered a handshake after the final whistle which FPN refused, that is not a good response by FPN who was the major agitator around the events. FPN also initially refused to leave the field under official orders this response is an indicator of a weak temperament.

Oh I agree, I was only commenting on that specific part of the incident.
Especially not shaking hands at the end, as you say, shows a mental weakness that can be exploited by opposition players.
For instance if I was Tony Smith I'd send Ryan Bailey straight at FPN in the next game between Wire and Wigan. Get him all wound up.

Quote ="Him"Oh I agree, I was only commenting on that specific part of the incident. Especially not shaking hands at the end, as you say, shows a mental weakness that can be exploited by opposition players. For instance if I was Tony Smith I'd send Ryan Bailey straight at FPN in the next game between Wire and Wigan. Get him all wound up.'" I think players will exploit him and get under his skin, the problem is players will have to watch there backs as it appears he is an off the ball merchant in the NRL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WAwo8pc050

Quote ="Him"Oh I agree, I was only commenting on that specific part of the incident. Especially not shaking hands at the end, as you say, shows a mental weakness that can be exploited by opposition players. For instance if I was Tony Smith I'd send Ryan Bailey straight at FPN in the next game between Wire and Wigan. Get him all wound up.'" I think players will exploit him and get under his skin, the problem is players will have to watch there backs as it appears he is an off the ball merchant in the NRL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WAwo8pc050

he's joining the ranks of michael korkidas and jim gannon very early on.

I hardly think you are in a position to criticise after you defended Ablett's attempted gouge. FPN has been punished and you're still crying about it.

Wouldn't surprise me if the club put in an appeal this morning, there wasn't much in the punch the late off the ball challenge and hair pull was much worse. Maybe they have found FPN has an open palm for 2 nanoseconds before punch impact.

Im sure they will be onto it

Quote ="Judder Man"I think players will exploit him and get under his skin, the problem is players will have to watch there backs as it appears he is an off the ball merchant in the NRL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WAwo8pc050'" Shaun, what first attracted you to the player FPN?

Quote ="Judder Man"I think players will exploit him and get under his skin, the problem is players will have to watch there backs as it appears he is an off the ball merchant in the NRL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WAwo8pc050'" Shaun, what first attracted you to the player FPN?

Right in the back when he's not set or looking.

He's right up Shaun Wane, wigan, and wigan fans' alley.

Thats very true as we are all the same!

Awful lot of suspended players seem to miss a fixture against Hull

oh please! only a deluded dobbin could come up with that scenario

In 2010 after the playoff game your fans wished that mcguire DIED!!!

Yeah but after the grand final Kieran Cunningham drowned a bag of kittens.

Craziest thing about that hit is not that he did it at all, but the game situation he did it in.

Two points up, four minutes to go, kicking off and trying to keep the opposition penned in their own half and you do that?

As dumb plays go, that's right up at the top of the tree.

Dumb as well as a thug. Should fit right in.

What, ALL of us?

Yes you especially. You were seen burning effigies of McGuire on Gary and Uncle Kath's front lawn chanting voodoo death chants

No, the others where showing joys of jubilation and a hero's welcome when Ben Flower returned to the DW turf after his exile from the game.

I wouldn't call it an exile, more like a holiday. Exile suggests he was reasonably punished.

Yup. Every last one.