Apologies If wrong I thought Rule was.

We were a profitable club. The reason being however was because of a lack of investment in the squad, in youth, in facilities, in coaching staff, etc. we were only going to be profitable for so long, and that's why they got rid. They sucked the club dry, then took the money and left it for someone else to sort out. THAT'S what I'm referring to.

Speaking of myths, I don't suppose you could show us our club's salary bill could you? Because I can't recall us being at full cap for a while considering we kept bringing in players mid-season...

And "easily best" has you in 7th vs 8th last year and 6th vs 7th the year before. You had one good year in 2009 to our 2007, and your 7th in 2008 is balanced by our Cup Final appearance.
But yeah, "easily" second best (in Imaginationland)

James Rule is married to an American lady, which certainly rules him out of being Kath Hetherington's son-in-law.

I'd rather have on field results, and so would the vast majority of sports fans, and NO-ONE has said otherwise. You're inventing your own little arguments to make yourself feel superior. The Straw Man technique.

I wouldn't mind, but it's hardly like a supporter of Hull KR can get on his high horse about "on field results". Like I've said, you've done marginally better than us overall in the 5 seasons you've been up here, but we've been closer to actually winning a trophy. So in this instance, I'd rather be a profitable also-ran than a constabtly propped-up cant stand on our own two feet also-ran.

When your club has actually achieved something, and you've actually got an argument without loads of flaws and inaccuracies (full cap, eh?), then come back yeah? You'd think with the fact you spend more time on the Hull FC board than the Hull KR board you'd actually know what you're talking about...

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Apparently the RFL will be supplying their side of things in League Express tommorrow, maybe they can publish the findings of the ' Visagate ' investigation while they're at it

Needs to be read in conjunction with the actual WADA report

Unless of course Kath really is rugged chop face cowboy Jack Palance.

via Gareth Walker on Twitter

Aren't you boring

You've hit me where it hurts there.

A fantastic comeback. I'm down and out

How on earth was it a comeback? What did you say to me?

Why is the WADA report out when it was UKADA that dealt with the case and it was they who lifted Gleesons ban so that he could play in the Hull derby and it was when they were told that most of the Hull side may have taken the pill that they took that action.

...............and breath

I assumed you were attempting to ride in on your white knight and help your Hull-obsessed mate. I didn't realise you were just attempting to throw insults for no reason.

Maybe you should be the one asking the question to yourself... "what did I say to you?" Then maybe you should look at a more constructive response to something you're struggling to answer then "aren't you boring", because to me all that says is you have no reply and aren't that bright!

A player, who has previously brought the game into disrepute, is banned for taking a 'supplement' given to him by another player, who has previously brought the game into disrepute, and yet some still choose to believe there is some big conspiracy involving the RFL because it suits their agenda. Odd world.

The next chapter in this story...

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Longy sticks up for his bessie mate - shock!

"ey oop Sean, haven't seen any mention of whose shop you got the stuff from in the first place"

Not a shop, a stall, unless the person in question has gone up in the world.

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Is it true that you are allowed to take the said supplement up to 12 hours before a game?

What is the definition of "in competition" and "in training"?

Yes. So every single Hull player could have quite legally taken this supplement provided that they stopped at least 12 hours before playing. Something Long seems to have misunderstood given his rant about being at risk of testing positive in the Derby.


In competition = playing a competitive match.

In training = between competitive matches.

Not 100% sure where friendlies fit but seems likely they'd count as in training.

Good old Bernard.

Sean Long said: "I’d taken it OxyElite Pro as recently as the night before, the Thursday, and we had a massive derby against Hull KR on the Sunday."

So Sean had nothing to worry about then, and his interview was complete nonsense?

Why hasn't this little fact been reported anywhere?! I'd say it's a pretty important fact to know when forming an opinion about someone who used this substance that it's about as legal as caffeine most of the time!

It has been though it is 48 hours not 12. I think it's a case of people are either too stupid to understand or don't want to understand. As for Long, we all know exactly which camp he comes in to.