Nice one, but it's pointless doing like for like as you well know.

Round 4 average attendance in 2014 = 7320.86
Round 4 average attendance in 2015 (based on your 44257 figure) = 7376.17

You're welcome.

We all know your opinion counts for nothing.

Round 3 average attendance in 2014 = 7961.57
Round 3 average attendance in 2015 = 8156.33

Round 2 up from 10424 to 10570
Round 1 up from 8404 to 9668

No idea on this weekend's but they're not hard to find, as you well know.

Overall averages are up for the first 4 rounds by about 500 or 7'ish %

Not that I care either way, but I do casually wonder if this thread will still be around come october?

No idea if this was covered when he made that point but I'm sure that Club Wembley tickets didn't include the RLWC semi finals on their season tickets for Wembley events, they were sold separately.

That's a worrying stat, I'd be interested to understand the context,namely:

- when did thursday/Monday games come in and what do viewing figures for these slots look like compared to the slot(s) they replaced? (ie is there an underlying issue akin to the nonsensical comparison of attendances at games played on a Thursday night to games played on a Sunday that I often see in here)
- what are the like for like Friday v Friday comparisons like?

On the face of it the TV figures for last year are worrying.

Could be down to the number of games now shown on SS3 (in itself worrying, in so far as this is hardly the flagship channel). Reason being that those running the BT Vision set-up while subscribing to Sky Sports only receive SS1 and 2.

Or it could just be that people are losing interest? For Salford to lose 4,500 spectators from the same fixture last year says its possible.

It'd be surprising if no-one was losing interest. The question is, how many? FWIW the flash in the pan that was a 7k+ crowd against Wakey suggests to me that most of those can't have had much interest in the first place.

It's not the "same fixture" though is it?

This is the same sort of bilge argument that I recently read about Saints crowds being down because a televised Friday night game against Cas in the February cold drew less than the "equivalent" top of the table, non-televised clash in late June on a gloriously sunny Sunday afternoon in 2014.

Spot on.

Comparing the Wakey crowd at Salford yesterday to the same fixture last year (First game of the season of a new owner and new team with a full pre-season of hype) is a pointless exercise. I don't understand why the crowd speccies don't take into account all the other factors. It can't have anything to do with cherry-picking what they require to make a point, surely?

[uSky TV viewing figures for SL (2015)[/u
Fri - STS V CAT Rd 1 (SS1) - 156K
Thu - WID V WIG Rd 1 (SS2) - 156K

Fri - WIG V HUD Rd 2 (SS1) - 188K
Thu - SAL V STS Rd 2 (SS2) - 148K
Sat - CAT V CAS Rd 2 (SS3) - 81K

Fri - STS V CAS Rd 3 (SS1) - 120K
Thu - LEE V HUD Rd 3 (SS3) - 132K
Sat - CAT V WAR Rd 3 (SS3) - 71K

[uSky TV viewing figures for WCC (2015)[/u
Fri - WAR V STG (SS1) - 140K
Sat - WIG V BNE (SS1) - 169K
Sun - STS V SOU (SS1) - 225K

And that's your lot.

Want more info? Want last years figures? What day they were broadcast on? What Sky Sports channel they were broadcast on, etc?

Check out the BARB website, it's all there. Years of it. Get it yourself. Or don't bother and keep wearing those blinkers.

I'm done with furnishing blinkered SL Moonie forums with info, especially when those who express opinions or provide relevant comparative data are now routinely banned by those whose contribution to this forum is precisely the square root of nothing.

There's nothing comparatively nonsensical in the fact that SL attendances were 10.4% down in 2013 and 4.90% down in 2014 either. And they are down again in 2015 already! Only a bunch of SL Moonies would argue otherwise.

Enjoy your dying sport.

And to Gutterfax and others who have been banned for expressing diverse opinion? This forum is worse as a result of your absence.

May as well rename it total rl moonie dot com



Cya.

Can't be bothered, which is why I checked whether someone who seems to have a weird fixation with these things and nothing better to do with their life had already compiled it for me.

Not to worry.

That's William.. One hand on the keyboard and the other one down his trousers.

Best dummy spit ever?

I think it was only missing another couple of uses of the word "moonie", it's such a dead cool word after all.

Moonie.

The most important point is tv viewing figures are down severely, not the person delivering that news.

Couldn't agree more. We need to understand why to be able to do anything about it.

I don't think it's sensible to ignore scheduling changes when trying to understand why?

It may be that like for like TV viewing figures are down a long way, which would be very concerning indeed.

It might be that the new timing slots are less attractive, or that we are being shown on channels with less subscribers. This would still be concerning but in a slightly different way and with slightly different consequences.

Likelihood is it's a mixture of reasons, which all need to be properly considered. But it seems some people will only consider it to be 100% due to a decline in viewer interest or 100% due to scheduling.

For what it's worth I think the standard has been poor so far this year and I look forward to watching the TV games less than I did = decline in viewer interest. I also, however, sometimes still completely forget about the Thursday night games (for some reason the only night stamped in my mind as a TV RL night is Friday), plus I have BT Vision = scheduling.

I am speaking from a position of ignorance though as I have zero clue how the figures are compiled.

Not all attendance figures are down, for instance both HKR and St.Helens are up on comparative matches last season and I read elsewhere at least three championship clubs are showing healthy increases.

Wahoo! This board may get some life back into it after being invaded by a couple of trolls for the past 2 years.

One last reminder of Williams statistical analysis technique:

Except they're not, they're up by around 7%. As i've already shown.



Bye then, see you in a few months under a new user name (again) or under one of the others you're currently using.

Look at all those empty Club Wembley seats

Expect a very low crowd for Hull-Catalan on Friday, 4 defeats in a row, bottom of the table and no away fans doesn't make for a blockbuster!

Why not?

That is the question that all the SL clubs should be aiming the games to be, blockbusters, and people clamouring to be there.

I ask a simple question, what is Rugby League and why should I be interested?

That is the biggest challenge the game has and IMO it doesn't know where to start.

The game has always struggled to promote itself and lives to much in the past.

The gam needs a new modern dynamic to make people aware.

T20 anyone?, Dubaii 7's or a weekend bash in Blackpool..

Whatever works, or dosnt.