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| So what if Burgess is only 18? He played well in the World Club Challenge, has consistently performed well in other big games and has no glaring deficiencies in his game. If you're good enough, you're old enough. He has the talent to be the best winger in the world by the next World Cup.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And both play for Wigan'"
YEAH!
Lets not pick players from the most consistently successful team over the past 5 seasons! Anybody could come in and replace former Man of Steel Pat Richards so well that he isn't missed at all.
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| Quote ="Les Norton"I hasn't realised the Dream Team selection criteria was based on how the selectors predicted players would play today'"
Aye, you're right. That large chunk of Leeds players must have been pivotal in getting Leeds to the lofty heights of 6th. The rest of their squad must have been terrible.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Aye, you're right. That large chunk of Leeds players must have been pivotal in getting Leeds to the lofty heights of 6th. The rest of their squad must have been terrible.'"
7th actually now after todays results.....with 5 of the best players in their positions in the league.
Its not been a great weekend for the Dream Team. Roby completely outclassed Clarke, Ryan Hall had a complete nightmare (whist Monaghan scored a hat-trick), Shenton got sinbinned in an otherwise completely anonymous performance, Kevin Brown looked impressive for 15 minutes then disappeared and Escare looked more than a match for Hardaker at full back.
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| Quote ="number 6"=#FF0000because bentham never asked for it to be checked, he was more than happy the catalans were onside, it was no worse than both teams line speed throughout the match and confirmed by jon wells at the end that the dragons players were all onside!'"
Thaler asked for the grounding to be checked a couple of times in the other match and they checked onside/offside without being asked.
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| Quote ="EHW"7th actually now after todays results.....with 5 of the best players in their positions in the league.
Its not been a great weekend for the Dream Team. Roby completely outclassed Clarke, Ryan Hall had a complete nightmare (whist Monaghan scored a hat-trick), Shenton got sinbinned in an otherwise completely anonymous performance, Kevin Brown looked impressive for 15 minutes then disappeared and Escare looked more than a match for Hardaker at full back.'"
With an added two points from the win tonight the Catalan Dragons would be on 31 points . Leeds Rhinos finished on 32 , so they would still be in 6th on the league table .
Apologies for spoiling your fun .
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| I think he means in terms of the playoffs count. ie GF winners 1st, GF losers 2nd and so on.
ie totally scrapping the idea that the league is worth anything at all as come the playoffs everyone resets.
I'm not sure he believes it, neither do I, but it's a jibe to put out there.
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| For me, it was an error for Sinfield to throw such a pass in that position on the field. I'd have said he should have taken the ball on his own to use up some time & allow the Rhinos forwards more time to get to first/2nd receiver.
Cats repaid the compliment from the league game with interest.
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| Quote ="dubairl"I don't think they can? but i did think at the time that duport wasn't standing square.'"
Yeah I didnt think they are allowed to check but markers were clearly not square(which they wernt all game) and the guy who scored was offside(which both teams were all game). I thought all that mattered was getting the right decision but it seems that is only on some incidents though.
Im not sure how the video ref can check for some things but not others. Like a ball steal would only take a couple of quick views normally to get the right decision but refs get these wrong a decent percentage of the time yet they can check for restarts which sometimes takes quite a long time. Maybe they could have a captains call option or something where the captain can question 1 decision and send it to the screen, if they are wrong they lose the option but if they are right they keep it.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Thaler asked for the grounding to be checked a couple of times in the other match and they checked onside/offside without being asked.'"
or maybe because catalan were onside they didnt need too!
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| Quote ="EHW" Escare looked more than a match for Hardaker at full back.'"
Apart from getting tackled into touch by Hardaker, and creating a try for Watkins of course.
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| Quote ="number 6"or maybe because catalan were onside they didnt need too!'"
Widnes/Warrington weren't offside either.
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| Quote ="number 6"or maybe because catalan were onside they didnt need too!'"
Widnes/Warrington weren't offside either.
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| Players make errors every game every week, that's all it was, That error is not the only reason Leeds lost that game. But your typical fan loves to single out individuals in a team sport and make them scapegoats, usually because they don't have a clue about what they're talking about.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Widnes/Warrington weren't offside either.'"
the video ref in the leeds v catalan game were happy that catalan were onside! no need to look!
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I think he means in terms of the playoffs count. ie GF winners 1st, GF losers 2nd and so on.
ie totally scrapping the idea that the league is worth anything at all as come the playoffs everyone resets.
I'm not sure he believes it, neither do I, but it's a jibe to put out there.'"
actually, I thought the final distribution of prize money is based on final positions in the play offs, so Leeds will get the distribution for finishing 7th.
Whichever way you look at it, there are 6 teams left in the competition, and Leeds are not one of them.
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| Quote ="number 6"the video ref in the leeds v catalan game were happy that catalan were onside! no need to look!'"
If you say so.
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| Quote ="roversmad"Thaler asked for the grounding to be checked a couple of times in the other match and they checked onside/offside without being asked.'"
If the tries Thaler asked to be checked were from kicks they tend to check offside first as standard.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"If the tries Thaler asked to be checked were from kicks they tend to check offside first as standard.'"
He did his very best to find obstructions that never were when tries were scored, even going as far as giving the most ridiculous obstruction penalty of the year against Warrington.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Apart from getting tackled into touch by Hardaker, and creating a try for Watkins of course.'"
Because Hardaker himself never makes an error of course
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Maybe they could have a captains call option or something where the captain can question 1 decision and send it to the screen, if they are wrong they lose the option but if they are right they keep it.'"
Sinfield has been using that rule for years - it wouldn't have helped on this occasion.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Out of interest why on earth wasn't the offside checked for that final try? The Catalans players looked to be well within the 10 so regardless of Briscoe's error (in fact their proximity probably led to it) it could have been chalked off.'"
I had the impression the Leeds player either dummied to play it (to either delay or get a penalty), causing the Catalan players to set off and then stop en masse, or the ball got tangled in his legs, so that the Catalan players were offside when the ball cleared the ruck but wasn't checked as it was the fault of the Leeds player. If the Leeds player did dummy, its his fault that Williams was so close to collect the spilled ball.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Coming from wigan fans
Saints fans maybe, but wigan fans?
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| Quote ="number 6"because bentham never asked for it to be checked, he was more than happy the catalans were onside, it was no worse than both teams line speed throughout the match and confirmed by jon wells at the end that the dragons players were all onside!'"
...but they weren't. The Catalans players started moving before the ball was played.
However, McDermott was correct in the post match interview. We hadn't done enough in that game to deserve the victory.
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| Quote ="EHW"7th actually now after todays results.....with 5 of the best players in their positions in the league.
Its not been a great weekend for the Dream Team. Roby completely outclassed Clarke, Ryan Hall had a complete nightmare (whist Monaghan scored a hat-trick), Shenton got sinbinned in an otherwise completely anonymous performance, Kevin Brown looked impressive for 15 minutes then disappeared and Escare looked more than a match for Hardaker at full back.'"
The dream team is a very subjective thing. No one is going to agree 100%. The one Leeds player who suprised me in the selection is Watkins didn't think he deserved to be in there personally. You might not agree with some of the Leeds players in there but all of them were there or there abouts for selection.
Regarding the game the team were poor and have been since just before the CC final. We seem to love to single out players but the truth is he was the final mistake but there were many more leading up to it. We didn't deserve to win that's sport.
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