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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"I appreciate where Huddersfield have come from & gone though over the said period, however surely the fundamental point of supporting any team is to witness them winning stuff?
In the last few years you’ve seen your club lift the L.L.S, participate in a C.C. final & be just eighty minutes from a G.F, as opposed to Wakefield who have managed just one C.C. semi in all that time, close but no cigar.'"
But winning things from where we have come from compared to even Wakefield who were seen as a big club by our fans back in the dark days is even more remarkable.
So you think Wakefield Trinity have had a worse last 30 years than Huddersfield based on the fact that we've done pretty well in the last 4/5 years after coming out of all the crap i've just described ?
maybe the original post should have stated last 5 years instead of 30 !!
for almost 20 years of those years Wakefield were considered a big club to our fans as were most current super league teams, teams we only thought we'd play if drawn against them in cups.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"But winning things from where we have come from compared to even Wakefield who were seen as a big club by our fans back in the dark days is even more remarkable.'"
Indeed, & hopefully you will see a major trophy lifted in the next few years & I’m sure your elation will be exquisite, whereas the best I can hope for is staying up via the M.P.G.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Indeed, & hopefully you will see a major trophy lifted in the next few years & I’m sure your elation will be exquisite, whereas the best I can hope for is staying up via the M.P.G.'"
Wasn't that long ago when finishing 2nd from bottom in SL was a major triumph for us ....we've had it tough for a long, long time...only the hard work and patience of everyone at the club have seen us turn the corner....whichever way you look at it Huddersfield have had a worse 30 years than Wakefield !!
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Wasn't that long ago when finishing 2nd from bottom in SL was a major triumph for us ....we've had it tough for a long, long time...only the hard work and patience of everyone at the club have seen us turn the corner....whichever way you look at it Huddersfield have had a worse 30 years than Wakefield !!'"
Plus Ken Davy's deep pockets
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"Plus Ken Davy's deep pockets
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That has helped, but that's what i was referring to when i said patience paid off, Ken could have walked away years ago especially since the club makes no money back for him....he didn't he vowed to make this club great again and is slowly doing so.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Wasn't that long ago when finishing 2nd from bottom in SL was a major triumph for us ....we've had it tough for a long, long time...only the hard work and patience of everyone at the club have seen us turn the corner....whichever way you look at it Huddersfield have had a worse 30 years than Wakefield !!'"
Well I look at it in terms of success.
As I have already stated, I.M.O. seeing the captain of your club lift a major trophy aloft is the pinnacle as a fan.
The elation felt must be delightful & not only makes up for all the awful years gone by, but lives in the memory, in readiness for any rubbish years to come.
Are you really saying you’d swap your sporting experiences for mine?
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| Wires have been on a roller coaster ride over the last 30 years....lots of downs mixed in with some good ups. Stability and a new stadium have been the bedrock on which the ups have been built....critical to success. We are very lucky to have Simon Moran on-board.....very lucky indeed. Peter Deakin's involvement was massive as well...men with vision (and deep pockets).
We nearly went under....very very nearly. Relegation was a real possibility at times also. The good times seem better somehow after getting through the bad times. Supports are the constant....every club needs them and should do their upmost to keep them.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Well I look at it in terms of success.
As I have already stated, I.M.O. seeing the captain of your club lift a major trophy aloft is the pinnacle as a fan.
The elation felt must be delightful & not only makes up for all the awful years gone by, but lives in the memory, in readiness for any rubbish years to come.
Are you really saying you’d swap your sporting experiences for mine?'"
You asked which club has had it roughest over 30 years, in my opinion my club has from the examples i gave......if you had asked which clubs fans have seen the least number of trophies won/semi finals contested then it would not have been mine.
And no i wouldn't swap because in those dark days i had some great times and met some wonderful people ....it wasn't and still isn't all about winning things to me otherwise i would have been a Bradford or Leeds fans by now !!
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| Wakefield have had their cup finals - relegating Cas twice and then the million pound game last year. I'd suggest they've had more lucky escapes than many other teams have had enjoyable seasons. Teams like Salford haven't had anything to crow about over the last couple of decades. They've had the relegations that Wakefield haven't had and zero finals/lucky escapes - that's much rougher than constantly magicking yourself out of relegation as Wakefield have managed season after season.
So in SL, Salford have probably had it worse than Wakefield. Outside of SL you can take your pick - every team (with the exception of Bradford) have had it rougher than Wakefield. If Wakefield had ever been relegated, maybe their fans would appreciate that rather than whinging about constantly being the bottom feeders of SL.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"You asked which club has had it roughest over 30 years, in my opinion my club has from the examples i gave......if you had asked which clubs fans have seen the least number of trophies won/semi finals contested then it would not have been mine.
And no i wouldn't swap because in those dark days i had some great times and met some wonderful people ....it wasn't and still isn't all about winning things to me otherwise i would have been a Bradford or Leeds fans by now !!'"
The thing is, it’s nigh on impossible to quantify as there isn’t a points system of say, +10 for winning a major trophy, or -5 for a relegation.
You’ve mentioned all the tough times at Huddersfield, whereas I haven’t bothered, there’s been too many, but at least yours are a thing of the past…
But at least you’ve admitted you wouldn’t swap places, whereas I would trade my team playing in a lower division just to have witnessed just one success, & as for the changing teams thing, well that’s just wrong & people who do have no soul.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Wakefield have had their cup finals - relegating Cas twice and then the million pound game last year.'"
Oh yes, that’s surely up there with a C.C. final.
Quote ="Gazemous"So in SL, Salford have probably had it worse than Wakefield. Outside of SL you can take your pick - every team (with the exception of Bradford) have had it rougher than Wakefield. If Wakefield had ever been relegated, maybe their fans would appreciate that rather than whinging about constantly being the bottom feeders of SL.'"
Ever been relegated, I’ve seen loads, the best one being when they changed the goalposts halfway through a season .
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| Well, sorry but you did post the question and i answered it with my opinion.
I realise obviously you were after people agreeing with your post but i didn't.
Wakefield are having hard times now but again until they hit the rock bottom of the entire RL like we did then, in my opinion, there is still no comparison....
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| Huddersfield.
no other club has spent decades out of the top flight like we did, playing in front of a few hundred die hards in a crumbling ground, not knowing if it would be the last time you'd ever watch them! Wondering if the club would go bust every morning,losing out 3 generations of supporters.
then finally we made it back, slowly but surely, then we were out of our depth for 4 years, getting walloped every week,finishing bottom every year, but not being demoted due to the ground grading regulations. again, losing a generation of fans.
the merger!
to put it simple, we could only dream about playing the top flight clubs, let alone competing and beating them.
how many other fans can say that playing against and losing games to the likes of Bramley, Chorley, Springfield/Trafford, Runcorn, Highfield et al became the norm.
so yes, Huddersfield
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| Wakefield won the Yorkshire cup when we were a 3rd division side happy to just scrape through a preliminary game against Nottingham City!
Wakefield were a well regarded top flight club for the first 10 years i watched Huddersfield, all those years we were in the 2nd or 3rd division.
the biggest game i attended in the first 5 years of watching Huddersfield was a yorkshire cup tie against........Wakefield trinity, so big that the crowd was qaudruple what we usually attracted.
we also got smashed 9-52, but yeah Wakey have had it worse
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"We have had it bad but I think that is only because we expect so much, we have still been to 4 finals in 10 years, granted it was a bit sp between the mid-80s and 2005 but you know. If you want a bad time take a trip to our friends across the river. First cup final for 30 years and they get slaughtered 50-0, up and down relegation wise, not exactly the best ground (although it is getting better, I will give them that).'"
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Please explain how we are 'up and down relegation wise' as that is quite simply the ramblings of a lunatic.
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| Of all the things that are very rugby league phenomenons staking a claim to be the crappest club in the league is maybe the rugby leagueiest of all of them,
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| Quote ="vbfg"Of all the things that are very rugby league phenomenons staking a claim to be the crappest club in the league is maybe the rugby leagueiest of all of them,'"
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| Quote ="roversmad"OBSESSED
Please explain how we are 'up and down relegation wise' as that is quite simply the ramblings of a lunatic.'"
Well my post was referring to a 30 year period (as the original poster asked for) since both of our teams were decent in the mid-80s as I said and in that time you lot were relegated in 89 was it? I think promoted the year after and went back down a couple years after that and then back up in 2006 so yeah up and down. We were as well but I didn't say we weren't so yeah I might be a lunatic but I don't just say stuff without any basis whatsoever.
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"Well my post was referring to a 30 year period (as the original poster asked for) since both of our teams were decent in the mid-80s as I said and in that time you lot were relegated in 89 was it? I think promoted the year after and went back down a couple years after that and then back up in 2006 so yeah up and down. We were as well but I didn't say we weren't so yeah I might be a lunatic but I don't just say stuff without any basis whatsoever.'"
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| Quote ="roversmad"Cloud. Cuckoo. Land.'"
If you don't think that a few relegations and promotions constitute up and down then I'm not the one in cloud cuckoo land. KR were in the third division in the late 90s (was it 96/97? Might be wrong) so you weren't relegated to get into that division which is DOWN and then promoted which is UP? Duh!
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"If you don't think that a few relegations and promotions constitute up and down then I'm not the one in cloud cuckoo land. KR were in the third division in the late 90s (was it 96/97? Might be wrong) so you weren't relegated to get into that division which is DOWN and then promoted which is UP? Duh!'"
Keep clutching at those straws
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| It's time the Hull clubs were merged.
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| Quote ="yossarian"It's time the Hull clubs were merged.'"
I agree. So should Bradford/Leeds, Wigan/Leigh, Cas/Wakefield/Featherstone, Warrington/Widnes etc. FWIW Hull were merged......................................with Gateshead Thunder!
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| Another Hull bitch-athon !! is there a thread that doesn't get hijacked by these lot ??
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