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| TBH, London would love a crowd that big
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| Tbf, they could've had a Good Friday big attendance against Cas but due to Bradford's demise, Leeds were in need of new Easter opponents and they got Cas instead.
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| Poor attendance yes, but I still like Trinity, the stadiums ramshackle but the fans are great and as for "mediteranean powerhouse", Jean, please, I nearly fell off me chair and bust a rib laughing.
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| What's the problem with attendances?
All SL clubs make their money from the TV deal and anything else is a bonus!!!
Sky couldn't give 2 hoots about attendance at the ground. All they are interested in is eyes on the box and they do make a profit.
If the clubs can't budget with the amount of money they KNOW they are guaranteed to recieve then more fool them if they go down the pan.
Sensible (LOL) clubs know how to use the guaranteed monies wisely.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Obviously you don't mind having splinters in your bum, or else like standing at a low elevation for the entire game. You obviously also don't mind pre-World War 2 toilets and food facilities.'"
The seats are plastic so don't understand how u would get splinters in your bum unles u sit in a tree outside the ground
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Obviously you don't mind having splinters in your bum, or else like standing at a low elevation for the entire game. You obviously also don't mind pre-World War 2 toilets and food facilities.'"
Im sorry, im not a stadium geek. I couldnt care less what the facilties are like. Im there to watch rugby league, not walk around going "oh these seats are radical, awesome, MEGA!" I prefer my away days to consist of good natured banter with away fans and a good pint. Which I have always had in abundance at wakefield. Compare that to your favourite english team Hull kr, where the beer is on a par with that served by novice home brewers and a place im lucky to survive getting out of alive
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Quote ="Deeencee"The seats are plastic so don't understand how u would get splinters in your bum unles u sit in a tree outside the ground'"
Last time I attended the seats in the main stand were wooden. But that was a while ago, in 2003. I refused to go back after I stood in the toilets and had someone else's pee splash on me, because they couldn't afford modern (late 20th century) urinals.
That "stadium" is a disgrace, and if they have replaced the splintering wooden seats with plastic ones, ok. But how about the fact that nowhere is the seating elevated to the point that you can look down on the game? It is only marginally above the standard of the PNG Hunters Kalabond stadium in Kokopo, PNG.
see here and compare: www.qrl.com.au/news/2015/03/31/h ... png_v.html
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Quote ="Deeencee"The seats are plastic so don't understand how u would get splinters in your bum unles u sit in a tree outside the ground'"
Last time I attended the seats in the main stand were wooden. But that was a while ago, in 2003. I refused to go back after I stood in the toilets and had someone else's pee splash on me, because they couldn't afford modern (late 20th century) urinals.
That "stadium" is a disgrace, and if they have replaced the splintering wooden seats with plastic ones, ok. But how about the fact that nowhere is the seating elevated to the point that you can look down on the game? It is only marginally above the standard of the PNG Hunters Kalabond stadium in Kokopo, PNG.
see here and compare: www.qrl.com.au/news/2015/03/31/h ... png_v.html
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"What's the problem with attendances?
All SL clubs make their money from the TV deal and anything else is a bonus!!!
Sky couldn't give 2 hoots about attendance at the ground. All they are interested in is eyes on the box and they do make a profit.
If the clubs can't budget with the amount of money they KNOW they are guaranteed to recieve then more fool them if they go down the pan.
Sensible (LOL) clubs know how to use the guaranteed monies wisely.'"
You think clubs should only budget to spend £1.6m per year?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Last time I attended the seats in the main stand were wooden. But that was a while ago, in 2003. I refused to go back after I stood in the toilets and had someone else's pee splash on me, because they couldn't afford modern (late 20th century) urinals.'"
Thought as a Todd Carney superfan you'd love a bit of urinal based pee fun.
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| Quote ="davetrin"If all the clubs with nicknames were removed from Super League ,only St Helens and Hull would be left to play each other every week.'"
Yay, we'd finish second in the league!
Or bottom, I suppose.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"?....I refused to go back after I stood in the toilets and had someone else's pee splash on me......'"
I remember it well Jean. That was me standing next to you . . . and it wasn't an accident!
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| 6,436 at Lavington Sports Ground, Albury on this rainy Saturday to see Manly vs Canberra in the NRL.
Albury sits right on the border of NSW and Victoria. Not a rugby league heartland.
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| Quote ="Him"You think clubs should only budget to spend £1.6m per year?'"
If they are sensible yes, but this is RL and sensible is not within the games vocabulary
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"If they are sensible yes, but this is RL and sensible is not within the games vocabulary
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And the money needed to finance the off field operations of the club? £0?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Despite the obvious trolling, Wakey are in serious trouble, on the pitch at least. I cant see where the next win is coming from for them.'"
Next Saturday against us
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"And the money needed to finance the off field operations of the club? £0?'"
And that my frends is why the game is in the state it is!
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"If they are sensible yes, but this is RL and sensible is not within the games vocabulary
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Pure battery.
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| Quote ="Him"Pure battery.'"
The opportunity is available to develop your statement.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"The opportunity is available to develop your statement.'"
Seriously? You can't see why your suggestion is totally impractical?
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| For those who defend Wakefield, lets compare.
How long have Wakefield been a Rugby League club?
How long have London Broncos been a Rugby League club?
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| Quote '" Quote ="Huddersfield1895"For those who defend Wakefield, lets compare.
How long have Wakefield been a Rugby League club?
How long have London Broncos been a Rugby League club?'"
You can't expect people to be attracted to watch a poor product in poor surroundings. Wakefield fans have had far more bad news than good news over the period we have been in super league and that has a negative effect on crowd numbers.
Taking your team as an example if we played in a nice stadium and had the squads and decent seasons you have had recently, I would expect it would have a similar effect on our crowds as it did on yours, probably more so.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Obviously you don't mind having splinters in your bum, or else like standing at a low elevation for the entire game. You obviously also don't mind pre-World War 2 toilets and food facilities.'"
Have you been dreaming again Jean.
Belle Vue is no palace (understatement) but, wooden seating doesn't exist and the food is comparable to any SL ground.
Standard fayre of pies, burgers, hot dogs and chips or you can sit down and have a 3 course meal before the game.
I know that you like to provoke reaction but, you really should try harder
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"You can't expect people to be attracted to watch a poor product in poor surroundings. Wakefield fans have had far more bad news than good news over the period we have been in super league and that has a negative effect on crowd numbers.
Taking your team as an example if we played in a nice stadium and had the squads and decent seasons you have had recently, I would expect it would have a similar effect on our crowds as it did on yours, probably more so.'"
I still maintain that you should never have been allowed into Super League unless your ground was updated.
Its basically been a tip for years. Yes you have had some improvements, but imo its still a tip.
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"I still maintain that you should never have been allowed into Super League unless your ground was updated.
Its basically been a tip for years. Yes you have had some improvements, but imo its still a tip.'"
In which case you'd have had an inaugural SL season comprising of only London & PSG.
At the first licensing round in 2009 you'd have had a SL of only 6 or 7 clubs.
And only 1 or 2 of those who actually own their stadium.
Wakefield, like many clubs, can barely afford to keep afloat, it would seem a stretch to expect them to spend millions they don't have to only upgrade a little a stadium that needs knocking down.
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| Quote ="Huddersfield1895"I still maintain that you should never have been allowed into Super League unless your ground was updated.
Its basically been a tip for years. Yes you have had some improvements, but imo its still a tip.'"
I don't disagree about the fact its not up to standard, but your original post was about our crowd numbers and not our right to be in SL.
FWIW, I have always thought that its what happens on the pitch that should dictate promotion and relegation and therefore we earned our SL place. As far as conditions attached to our membership were concerned, I agree that we didn't do what was expected, but don't forget we got no SL money for the first 2 years as a condition of our being accepted so we were behind the 8 ball from the start financially.
I don't think our past regimes have helped the situation, but I think you can trace some of our well documented past financial issues back to that original 2 year stint with no share of the SL money.
However, we are currently in a position where I am actually questioning whether we deserve to be in SL and whilst Michael Carter is doing his best with very limited resources, looking at a club like Leigh, I am actually somewhat embarrassed at how we compare with them considering we are the SL club.
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