Its the way things should have been done for years now.

I feel sir there is a slight contradiction in your 2 comments above.



In answer to your question, I think most fans could put up with 1 or 2 loaned players short term, after that it does become a feeder league style feel to it.
Ceratianly I'd much rather my club try recruiting from within and building up its own youth structures and giving those players hope /a chance rather than some kid snapped up as "a excess" by SL clubs.

Perhaps a better idea would be to give the new "franchise" clubs the pick of these youngsters and leave the Championship(s) as a stand alone competiton worth winning in its own right.

Just completely unrealistic.

Lower grade clubs in England think they can develop their own players, build them up into stars, they will all stick together and they will get promoted up to SL level and win the SL title and rule all of mankind.

Its a load of rubbish!

Lower grade clubs are just a step on the ladder. Young players dont set their sights on playing for a National League club!

Players come through and move on when they get better.



The reason so many lower grade clubs in England are dying a slow painful death is because they think they are something they will never be. If these clubs realised their place on the ladder and set themselves up where they belong on that ladder, they would be so much stronger and well off.

Things changed for many in July 08.
I think many lower league fans prefer to see there own/ local players (and not necessarily give a monkeys if the club goes to SL or not), of course players will go for the money, however many fans would rather watch kids from there club play rather than a variety of kids from various SL clubs play for 6 - 7 games or 1 season, the upshot of the club that does that is that it becomes the A Team for various SL clubs (which begs the question why scrap the A team structure) or goes bankrupt as the few fans remaining go to watch the Amateur game.



If the RFL realised that Championship RL if left as a proper stand alone league with each club equal (same imports /full time players / all can be relegated or promoted from Champ 1) could attract fans (not millions but enough to maintain a interest in the game in these towns) then I think they would see some movement.
True this would offer zero straight away to SL and its International teams, however many players playing SL have at some point or other followed a lower league club or played for it (or that towns amateur club) so indirectly its attracting a player pool if not a supporter base (it also gives ex SL players a couple of years footy to play before they retire by stepping down a division).

If the RFL are hellbent on creating a player pool than create a SL "reserve" league structure (that allows all ages) and have them as feeder clubs.
Would probably stand a better chance of getting a few through the gate to watch em play if its there 2nd tier club they are paying to watch.

criticise Championship clubs for not producing players

I'm sure most Championship clubs dont really want to run reserves given the choice

Like Hull KR you mean?

Hmmmmm

Come franchise application time which club do you reckon will get the credit for 'producing' or 'developing' any dual registered players?

one day the rfl will astound us all by actually NOT changing the rules of the game. there is no other sport where the rules are changed presumably for the sake of it almost every season.

We are unique. Groundbreakers. Nonconformist.

Ergo, Rugby League is cool.

you know what rich? you sound more like dickie lewis every day

Kill me now.

ok

I am a supporter of a championship One club, the Cougars. I don't want to see our club lose it's identity by borrowing players on an ad hoc basis from a superleague club, believe it or not people we dont ALL see superleague as the be-all-and-end-all of rugby league. I would rather be proud of my club at this level than feel we had somehow 'cheated' our way up the league.
Good luck to all clubs in the superleague, it's a great competition - but it isn't the only one.

There are clubs and fans outside SL that want to be in SL, proposals such as this will kill off those teams and the majority of those clubs fans will be lost to the game, dropping out of SL saw Fax lose a thousand off the gate straight away and 500 fans a season for 3 years, now we're playing well they are starting to rise again and part of that is because we can see a return to the higher levels on the horizon. Take that away and the competition will suffer because the little crowds will become smaller, the clubs will fold and those fans certainly wont support Leeds or Bradford cos we lost all those fans years ago, they'll give up on RL or just watch the occasional game on telly.

It's strange really, football doesn't seem to feel the need to weigh the game in favour of isolated (geographically) clubs. I don't like the way it all seems so money orientated now in football, but at least a club can get promoted or relegated on it's own merits, purely based on results. It seems that no matter how well a club does in the west yorks or lancs area, it's fighting the 'anti' bias of the RFL, especially if there's a club from a non-RL area somewhere on the fringes.
Is there much of a RL scene in Cornwall - there's no big teams of any sport there?!

No one is asking you people to support a Super League club.

You can feel free to pretend Super League doesnt exist and go and sit with a few hundred people watching lower grade clubs and telling the bloke next to you how youre only a few wins away from being up to Super League level.

Its your right to be stupid in that sense.


The funny thing is, if the RFL removed all rules, Super League clubs would tear apart lower grade clubs because thats just how things work in sports. The best players want to play at the top level. They DO NOT want to stop and play for bloody Sheffield or York!

You take any player from a lower grade club and ask them if they want to play in SL. They would ditch their lower grade club in a second.


And so why does SL want teams to do well in areas such as France, Wales and London?

Because no one outside of the few people stuck in 1950 wants to see big league teams going to tiny little towns, playing parks with tin sheds for stands, against teams that are going broke to field lineups that are so far below standard.

although delivered with your usual lack of decorum i actually agree with you on this

Would you feel better about yourself if I sat you in a comfortable chair, turned the lights down, sprayed a bit of Lavenders oil in the air and rocked you gently while I talked about the game?

Please!

These lower level clubs that run on the smell of an oily rag need to stop their pie in the sky dreaming and have a dose of reality. A club playing on a field surrounded by picket fences, that is run by family and friends, that hold raffles to raise money to buy the jerseys for next year and who loses players to weddings, birthday parties and holidays is not ever going to make Super League.

Never.

Never ever!

Wow man!!!! You really are quite a piece of work. I just get this warm fuzzy feeling everytime I read one of your posts. Your family, friends, workmates, neighbour's must really love your gentle nature.

You've just described half of the clubs presently occupying SL places.

Kogarah?

Brookvale?

Redfearn?

Henson ParK

etc., etc.

So the Aussies did not play on fields behind "picket fences" !!

Hmmm.

It's amazing how history can be changed







PS don't forget the field with the BIGGEST picket fence!!!
SCG

You know what, you are right.

The SGC used picket fences in the early 1900's so any Rugby League club in England that uses them right now is obviously a mega club in waiting.....

So you have been to Brewery Field

I think you're missing the point a bit. It isn't the natural, evolutionary growth of the game anyone has a problem with, and a lot of your post is absolutely right; of course SL is the ultimate goal of many a championship player.
What seems unfair is the deliberate bias against clubs from traditional RL areas, in favour of clubs with no history, tradition or fanbase. Sure, help them along, but from the bottom up, not the top down.

Or do it properly from the top down , but that costs , a lot , and the point being who should pay for it

The clubs at the bottom ?, or the clubs at the top ?