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| It shows Ablett saw it coming though.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"No.. we have a week off.
maybe next week....'"
Errr, there are 2 games this weekend. Player doesn't like fair tackle, takes a swing at supposed offender. No card. Grade A offence. EGP, no ban.
Lovely.
How many of the 68 that are likely to be named this weekend have the EGP available?
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"Did Briers take Ablett out of the game?'"
The fact Briers swings like a small child is more luck than judgement, he shouldn’t be rewarded for it. If you think it through then the end game of that is that Ablett throws himself to the floor like a sack of spuds, feigns injury, goes off for 10 or 15mins (remembering that an injury from foul play gives a free substitution) and Briers gets a worse punishment because of it. Briers should be punished for what he did, we shouldn’t make it in Ablett’s best interest to make it look worse.
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| Quote ="BiffasBoys"Not seen that!
Nah, just think the ref on the day & the grading bring the game into disrepute, irrespective of who the player is.
Cowardly, violent & aggressive blindside punch to the head of an off guard opponent, victim has both his arms by his side & is turned away from his attacker, is a grade A?'"
Yes, he looks off guard in the photograph. Do you actually know what blindside is? How else could you grade it, or do you think there should be a special grade for Lee Briers?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Would you accept it?
Serious question, if Leeds manage to beat Saints in a tough game next week, 1st minute of Leeds V Wire, Kallum Watkins, big strong lad, smacks Briers and takes him out of the game, wire lose. Watkins stays on the field enters his EGP and plays in the GF. Would you accept that as sufficient punishment?
BTW, you may think it does, but that photo does Briers no favours at all.'"
it does show that the following statement is wrong on all levels.
[i'victim has both his arms by his side & is turned away from his attacker'.[/i - which was the aim of it. We all know that peoples memory of what actually happened can be skewed by club bias...
Also, he wasn't taken out of the game.... no one was injured.
Lets say Rob Burrow did it to Ben Westwood for example, i would probably be laughing about it.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"it does show that the following statement is wrong on all levels.
[i'victim has both his arms by his side & is turned away from his attacker'.[/i - which was the aim of it. We all know that peoples memory of what actually happened can be skewed by club bias...
Also, he wasn't taken out of the game.... no one was injured.
Lets say Rob Burrow did it to Ben Westwood for example, i would probably be laughing about it.'"
except it doesnt.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"except it doesnt.'"
ok... the RFL, the referee and the photographic evidence are all wrong... you're right.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"
you were of course factually correct.... apart from pretty much everything you stated.'"
This evidence cannot be so.
It's a conspiracy.
It's an anti-Leeds Rhinos agenda.
It's gotta be a PaintShop Pro job surely?
Regards,
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"ok... the RFL, the referee and the photographic evidence are all wrong... you're right.'"
None of the referee, the RFL or the photographic evidence agree with you. Im not sure why you have made that up.
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| Quote ="William Eve"This evidence cannot be so.
It's a conspiracy.
It's an anti-Leeds Rhinos agenda.
It's gotta be a PaintShop Pro job surely?
Regards,
Outraged of Leeds (Rhinos).'"
has anyone fallen for this bait yet? you have pretty much said the same thing 3 or 4 times on this thread and i cant see many responses.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Also, he wasn't taken out of the game.... no one was injured.
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So Ablett should have faked injury and taken the free substitution then?
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| Ablett is either very effeminate or he's bracing himself for a punch, in real time speed it look like Briers has hit him on the sly because he turns his body away to avoid the punch.
In that picture he looks like Poncho out of Dirty Sanchez
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"None of the referee, the RFL or the photographic evidence agree with you. Im not sure why you have made that up.'"
i have seen enough of your posts to know you would argue that the grass isnt green.
So im not bothering to waste my time here.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i have seen enough of your posts to know you would argue that the grass isnt green.
So im not bothering to waste my time here.'"
Section it out bit by bit, why have one quote when you can have a Smokey 10 quote.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Ablett is either very effeminate or he's bracing himself for a punch, in real time speed it look like Briers has hit him on the sly because he turns his body away to avoid the punch.
In that picture he looks like Poncho out of Dirty Sanchez'"
He hasnt turned his body away, it doesnt really show it on one picture but that is the direction Ablett was going he didn’t really turn his body in any direction (though he did turn his head and try and defend himself.
Im not sure why or how people could argue that Briers isn’t attacking him from behind, the picture quite is from dead-on, it shows Briers behind Ablett and coming around the side.
As I have said I have no problem with the charge as it is, I do have a problem with that charge being inconsistent with what has been given before, and what will be given in the future.
Fact is, someone who doesn’t hit like a little girl could have caused serious damage doing exactly what Briers did and having a situation where the result determines what the punishment leaves us in a situation where it becomes a better outcome for Ablett for him to feign injury. That isn’t what we want either. What Briers did was dangerous and it put Ablett at risk of injury, the next person to do what Briers did may not be so lucky and they will probably face a huge ban and I don’t think that is right either.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i have seen enough of your posts to know you would argue that the grass isnt green.
So im not bothering to waste my time here.'"
if you had the evidence you could provide it. But you dont, because it doesnt exist. None of the RFL, the referee or the picture show what you said. They also dont show what he said either, but just because it didnt agree with what he made up, doesnt mean it does agree with what you made up.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"He hasnt turned his body away, it doesnt really show it on one picture but that is the direction Ablett was going he didn’t really turn his body in any direction (though he did turn his head and try and defend himself.
Im not sure why or how people could argue that Briers isn’t attacking him from behind, the picture quite is from dead-on, it shows Briers behind Ablett and coming around the side.
As I have said I have no problem with the charge as it is, I do have a problem with that charge being inconsistent with what has been given before, and what will be given in the future.
Fact is, someone who doesn’t hit like a little girl could have caused serious damage doing exactly what Briers did and having a situation where the result determines what the punishment leaves us in a situation where it becomes a better outcome for Ablett for him to feign injury. That isn’t what we want either. What Briers did was dangerous and it put Ablett at risk of injury, the next person to do what Briers did may not be so lucky and they will probably face a huge ban and I don’t think that is right either.'"
Briers is not behind Ablett.
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| Quote ="Dave T"
Briers is not behind Ablett.'"
he clearly is behind, and coming round, look at the other picture, Briers legs are behind Abletts or look at teh video and sequence of events. Im not saying he punched him in the back of the head, but he clearly, and obviously punched him coming around the side from behind.
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| Amazing a near 20 page thread on one of the finest half backs to grace superleague . get over your bias
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"he clearly is behind, and coming round, look at the other picture, Briers legs are behind Abletts or look at teh video and sequence of events. Im not saying he punched him in the back of the head, but he clearly, and obviously punched him coming around the side from behind.'"
Just out of interest, what charge do you believe would have been sufficient?
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| Quote ="wiretilidie08"Just out of interest, what charge do you believe would have been sufficient?'"
I don’t really have a problem with the charge he got, I just think A) it should have been dealt with at the time, I cannot see why Child didn’t at all. He cant say he was unsighted or there was some kind dispute. And B) it doesn’t seem in-line with what we have seen from similar incidents before.
If this is how such an action will be judged in the future, I don’t really have a problem with it. But as I say, we will likely, in probably the near future see an incident where someone does something nearly identical and we will see a punishment wildly out of line with a one match ban reduced to a fine for an EGP.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"he clearly is behind, and coming round, look at the other picture, Briers legs are behind Abletts or look at teh video and sequence of events. Im not saying he punched him in the back of the head, but he clearly, and obviously punched him coming around the side from behind.'"
That's two pictures that are lying now. Give it a rest, you're just embarrassing yourself.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"That's two pictures that are lying now. Give it a rest, you're just embarrassing yourself.'"
The pictures arent lying.
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| BRIERS WAS BEHIND ABLETT!!!
THE PICTURES AREN'T LYING!!!
Regards,
In SmokeyTAworld.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The pictures arent lying.'"
OK then, you are.
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