Yep!! your reet, £100 for a premier league season ticket, yer can't blame em.

more fans at huddersfield, we agree on something at least

Back on topic.

I've found it very difficult to predict the top six but here goes;

St Helens
Leeds
Castleford
Hull
Warrington
Wigan
Wakefield
Huddersfield
Hull Kr
Catalans
Salford
Widnes

I take it that this was a bit of the all to usual Wakefield/Huddersfield banter? However, it does raise a valid point as to the options that the folk in Huddersfield have when it comes to splashing the cash as a sporting spectator.

To call it banter is stretching it somewhat, as for splashing the cash, I'm sure that most Wakey fans would just love to do so, if only there were any other sporting activities available to people of the merrie city

I couldn't have worded it better myself Vastman



If Wakey finish the season one place below Salford and one place above Widnes it won't be at the top of the table

Do you know what a spoof is Chinny?

When you find out you'll feel a bit silly almost child like actually. Proves my point as to the daft nature of these threads - now off you go.

Fortunately for a few Wakey and Cas fans who call Leeds scum on a Friday night they then go and support Leeds United on a Saturday.

I know exactly how it works you idiot, that was part of the humour of the post and the show of respect to Leeds Rhinos ability to come back from 2016 & the early season drubbing against Cas, except you were so eager to score a point and have a go that it went over your head!

Nothing fortunate about having to go and watch Leeds Utd on a Saturday, that's sheer desperation or a lack of respect for money.

Back on topic again (get a room you two)...

I find it incredibly difficult to predict the order of that top 8 for the split in 2018. I don’t think we will see runaway leaders like last year with Castleford.

1. Saints
2. Hull
3. Cas
4. Wigan
5. Leeds
6. Warrington
7. Huddersfield
8. Wakefield
9. Catalans
10. Salford
11. Hull KR
12. Widnes

Sorry Widnes, I don’t think you’re that bad and I fully expect you to play better than last year. I just think the league as a whole is very close for 2018 and any injuries might prevent you making 9th/10th especially if you lose Mellor or Olbison.

Them poor souls are far superior to the bandits singing "we all love leeds" on a Friday night and then go home to their Manchester United covered bedrooms.

Difference between our posts is mine is true

I'm sure Donald Trump would agree with you but that's about it.

I particuarly like this idea that Wakey and Cas fans are scum yet I assume all Leeds RLFC fans are gents - not my experience at all - Leeds fans are some of the worst I've come across, very derogatory and usually unable to Hanley there ale - certainly worse than the much maligned Hull FC fans.

Never called Wakey or Cas fans scum. Said they call Leeds scum when it comes to RL and your post just highlights that and based on me only pointing out that SOME Wakey and Cas fans support Leeds when it comes to football.

No doubt this will be total sheet come end of the season but

1. Hull IF we can tighten our D which was awful at times last year I reckon we are in with shout.
2. Saints
3. Leeds
4. Wigan
5. Cas
6. Wakefield
7. Warrington
8. Catalans
9. Huddersfield
10. HKR
11. Widnes
12. Salford

St Helens ( if they get there half back paring sorted ASAP)
Wigan ( surely due some injury luck)
Hull ( great pack and HBs, Fonua is a miss)
Leeds ( will miss Burrow/McGuire still will challenge for both comps)
Warrington ( freshened up this year with good signings and new coach)
Cas ( I like a lot of there recruitment, Hardaker was a huge player last year for them. Dont think they’ll get the injury luck that they had last year)
Wakey ( played some good stuff last year)
Huddersfield

Who knows what the finals will be. A lot will determine on which side can keep key players fit.

Can’t wait though! We’re nearly there guys.

Delighted that everyone has Salford so far down. Same as always and am happy to go under the radar again. Recruitment has been good and have strengthened the pack considerably. Would like another speedster, but am happy for young Bibby to get more game time.
Can’t wait for the season now, off season seems to have dragged.
Good luck to u all

You may well confound the critics who know.

However let's be honest you may have recruited well within limitations but you look to me to be considerably weaker on paper than last year - sorry

1. Saints - Started to look like they were coming good late last year.
2. Hull - Should be up there but depends on how they cope without Ellis.
3. Leeds - Even without McGuire they know how to win.
4. Castleford - Hangover from last year and losing Hardaker will set them back.
5. Wakefield - Good squad depth will see them pick up points over smaller less experienced squads.
6. Wigan - Lost a few players and don't seem to have replaced them properly, looking stale.
7. Warrington - So much depends on new coach. Players tossed it off last year not a good sign.
8. Hudds - They should be capable of this if they keep key men injury free.
9. Catalans - Depends if McNamara can change the loose culture at the club, I'd guess not.
10. Salford - Still have some quality but not much depth - can see them in the bottom 2 if they get injuries.
11. Hull KR - Not much stronger than when they went down.
12. Widnes - Lacking quality and depending on the kids coming through.

On paper I would say KR are much weaker than when they went down. The side they got relegated with just shouldnt have ever gone down. The difference is they have a much better coach now.

Perhaps so. I don't see them doing better than 11th really either way. They'll be in the mix with Widnes and Salford in the bottom three.

I wonder how things are behind the scenes though. The reason I think Salford will be relegated (if relegation is still in place) is partly because the squad looks weaker, but more because I think the club may have to offer reduced contracts, not offer new contracts, sell players mid season etc to stay afloat, which may impact on field performance. I hope I'm wrong, but think Salford are in for a tough time.

So many unknowns for Salford at the moment around the off-field stuff. Nobody seems to know if the £8m debt has been written off, transferred to the new owners or what. It’s obvious the club loses money so who is covering losses going forward?

As a Bulls fan I’m very familiar with these issues. If they're not sorted it can go pear shaped very quickly.

On the field I think Salford have a decent enough starting 17 but things depend a lot on their new Aussie halfback and losing BMM takes away a lot of their impact. They will upset a few of the top sides while they stay fit but I think the season will take its toll on their meagre squad.

Hull fc will pick up key injuries this year and struggle,you heard it here first.