Can john wells transfer from the summarising role which he has done fantastically well to Stevos chair?just can't say of the top of my head who would be marvellous,who would be a natural

We get what we’re given, have you not seen the RFL Chairman.

Maybe the majority of S.L viewers were in-fact an underground cult dedicated to the inane ramblings of the commentary team.

Perceived as a minority sport, given a subsequent commentary team, could be worse, they could rope in J.J.B, oh the joy.

Please don't give them idea's like that.

I found myself thinking I agree with every word you say then you slipped in the name Paul Cullen as a Knowledgeable fourth man, now you have lost all credibility.

Eddie, Clarke and O'Connor all need to feck right off. I actually like Stevo and think he's good as a colour commentator, shame he is going to retire this year. Eddie often drags him into stupid slanging matches.

If they want more summarises during games then the best ones are Shaun McRae (think he's in Aus now though), Tony Rea, occasionally Barrie Mc, John Kear and although he sometimes drones on, Paul Cullen talks a lot or sense.

Yes like Tony Rea, speaks well and JK is solid.

looooooool,rl fans we're a self deprecating bunch.It's primarily a northern sport,we should have players like jbb drafted in nothing better than an I'll at ease (don't look at the camera)fidgeting, frozen roe deer in headlights when asked a hard question that visibly makes the brain hurt. Gormless mouth breathers neuro linguistically programmed for the whims of underground commentary cultjust what we need.

That's the problem with Stevo. If allowed to do the job then he's ok....but Eddie on match day and Rod Studd on BackChat insist on forcing out this rambling angry charactour that they think people love to see.

Like him or not, he's a former SL coach and therefore knows a hell of a lot more about the modern game than Eddie, Stevo, Phil Clarke, Barrie McDermott, Terry O'Connor and even Wells and Carney (who as mentioned look like Des Hasler and Craig Bellamy in comparison to the other morons). If you ever watched the match analysis that they used to do on Boots N All years ago, even with a relatively poor coach like Cullen or Tony Rae it was miles ahead of anything else in terms of actual detail and knowledge of the sport.

its a tough n' were a bit thin on the ground for ready replacements, Cullen yeah knows his stuff but presenting style always found him over officious, a stalinist in a pin stripe suit.stod rudd is about the best

Agree. Cullen was actually a great analyst on there and pointed out things a lot watchers would miss (quite similar to Gary Neville if you watch that PL show), whereas all O'Connor can do is point out the basics and obsess over forwards and "the forward battle".

They were even talking about Stevo's PJ's tonight ! Embarrassing ! Time for changes ITV have done it with football with the West Brom fan .

yep used to like watching/listening to Tony Rea weekly analysis but Cullen just talked nonsense the hole time. you can always tell a good coach because they talk in the language of common sense not gobbledygook.

Not only that but through important passages of play. The presentation style is terrible and the inconsequential stuff is just embarrassing.Russell helicopter, Russell face on video constantly, the black dude who was in his film.I t is a shambles

That’s right, I’d forgotten that one

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For goodness sake, how low can it go before someone realises it’s awful.

Or maybe someone has, and their having a right laugh.

Russell Crowe was the star of the show.

Brian Carney of Ireland wanted the interview and Shane Richardson arranged with Crowe for him to get it.
That is why Richardson said to Carney at the end of his post match interview that you owe me a bottle of .....

Overall the Hollywood glitter was overkill for a match that lacked any drama, but had loads of humiliation.

Whole attitude of Eddie is wrong - always seeking to 'talk up' everything. Shouldn't criticize enthusiasm, right? Well, no, because it becomes tedious and desperate-sounding. Stop banging on about the 'greatest game' and all that. That's for other people to decide. Someone banging on about it doesn't change anyone's opinion - at the very best, all you're doing is preaching to the converted. If I switched on (say) an Ice Hockey game I'd be far more interested in commentary that explained what was going on (and NOT in a patronizing "for those of you new to game" manner, just straightforward commentary aimed at regular fans - if I liked the spectacle it wouldn't bother me that I might need a few months to understand the nuances of what the EXPERT commentators were going on about). What WOULD really turn me off would be a commentator making a ton of unfunny in-jokes interspersed with banging on about how amazing the thing was that I was watching.

They are too comfortable and as a result, there's too much Partridge-esque banter; it's positively cringeworthy. O'Connor is a likeable chap, but adds no value, Eddie still doesn't know what he's talking about after god knows how many years as the face of the game, and Clarke has adopted a pseudo-intellectual persona that doesn't suit him at all - particularly when it slips due to his obvious Wigan bias. Cummins is there, apparently, to justify all the errors that the referee makes or, in rare cases when the evidence is overwhelming, to admit that it was an incorrect decision. And while all this weird interpersonal stuff is going on, the game unfolds, often without being called.

Carney and Wells should form the basis of an entirely new team - and please don't wheel out the usual suspects to supplement them; bring in some younger, articulate players to comment on the game with some basis in the reality of its modern form; we've heard enough of John Kear's anecdotes or how many times Barry Mac got sent to Red Hall, to last us a lifetime.

Last night's pathetic effort should be enough to let Sky Sports know that it's run its course - it was amateur and embarrassing; and I don't mean the Saints performance.

It's funny how Cummins never spoke to anyone when he was in charge of referees now he is trying to justify them all the time when the commentary should be about the match, now it would be good if Mr Ganson "Head of Referees" , that statement itself is joke and part of the reasons why we are having these discussions, would come public and explain why the 2 St George players were not sinbinned at least, but no the silence is deafening.

Thats an insult to Mr Partridge

Keep Carney & Wells & bin the rest, Start looking around other sports for a good comantator. Who says you have to be an expert in the sport? Eddie cetainly has got away with it for years. We could always look to some of the local radio stations Craig Murdoch on Humberside might work but at least try somthing as a lot of us are getting fed up with the same old formular.

i actually like cummings, he is there primarily to explain or give his version on calls that might not seem to be straightforward, the problem is, Eddie, in particular, asks him about everything he thinks is slightly contentious.
if he is just asked to clarify, from an officials POV why a particular penalty was given when it's not clear cut then it's fine, he usually gives a straight honest answer, but they try and involve him in debates and arguments which you feel he is uncomfortable with, i find it interesting sometimes when he explains certain rulings and decisions but without all the hysterics going on.

as for the rest, i agree about "tez" as passionate as he is he is mundane and rather cliched, "baz" on the other hand is quite insightful sometimes without overdoing it ala cullen, he also throws the odd witty remark in, but terry and barry together is like listening to 2 mates having banter in a pub.
Wells and Carney are superb and they should be the faces and voices of RL on SKY

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Yes spot on!!
They never stop and think how flippin patronising it sounds,flogging the worn out slogan. This is the whole thrust of this thread like we are all dense and have to be taught rote fashion, and just in case we didn't get it the first time rugby league "the greatest game".By the way it's Rugby Crowe' Sky and Eddie sold leagues birthright to Russel who flew in specially in his copter just for us.Remember Richard Branson fleeting love affair with league makes me cringe,personally I couldn't give a chuff about maximus Rugby league is not judged by its 'a'list celebs or the sky psychophants who turned it into the crowe club championship,it's judged by its 'a'game.God I cringe at the obsequious antics of sky.

Yes, I totally agree abut Carney and Wells and I have a gut feeling they will be surreptitiously moved upstairs step by step in a painless coup d'etat send Eddie and Stevo into the fields of elysium.
There is something about sport commentators especially league that has to have this ubiquitous parochial bl00dy need to quip,be jocular,aka Barry macs red hall revised and as you said about kear but the rest do it as well anecdote -a-thon.
It is infuriating and annoying while data,Eddie and whoever have a tedious in laugh ignorant of the thousands of sky viewers.

Despite what everyone's says, Russel Crowe is one of the biggest film stars off all time, and the fact he loves our game and shouts about it is a good thing, and the fact he snubbed the oscars for RL.