They’ve lost the best coach (by a street) in the league and that’s going to stunt them. Once Thompson goes at the end of this season it’ll be interesting to see how they can respond next year but they’re still the team to beat this year. I listened to a few Saints fans views last year and they have the best player in every position in the league by all accounts, so it’s a little surprising to see them lose a couple of games but there you go.

The loss of holbrook has been massive for us not just in terms of coaching but his overall involvement in the community. Be interesting to see what happens if he can lift the titans into the playoffs will a big club go for him

The guy seemed a really good bloke and the turnaround of that Saints team under him was huge. I think you judge a coach by the trophies they win but even more so by the improvements they get out of players. He took some of your lads to levels I wasn’t sure was possible. He made good players very good and turned some real average talent in to good players (Peyroux is one I always looked and and just couldn’t believe how much more Holbrook was getting from him).

What a horrible, cocky, arrogant post, could only be a wigan fan writing this, i thought this kind of attitude of only wigan matter had left yor fanbase but clearly not.

Apart from Wigan and St helens we have brought more junior players into super league than any other club in the last 5 years, we have an excellent academy that is producing some great young talent and we do all this on a budget despite having been at rock bottom many times over the last 40 years, and never having to cheat thesalry cap to do it.
clubs like ours should be applauded for what we do and have done against all the odds but clearly were not worthy of being in the same league as the mighty wigan and leeds etc.....grow up

Could only be a Huddersfield fan writing this...grow up.

Leeds?

Before any Wigan supporter of today starts crowing about having a great fan base and the club will never descend to the level of Bradford Bulls, they should remember what happen to the club in the mid seventies when crowds slumped to as low as two/three thousand and the club was relegated.

Especially when today, there are far more alternative attractions at weekends and the sporting scene is dominated by Football, Rugby Union and Sky Sports on television.

Today, it is all about success and winning trophies and if you do not do that Wigan is no different than clubs like Bradford Bulls, Huddersfield Giants, Halifax, Widnes Vikings etc.

A few seasons ago, even Leeds slumped to all time low for crowds which was far worse than what they have experienced over the last two/three seasons.

No Wigan supported should take the arrogant or blazy attitude that the fan base would remain if club suffered the same fate as Bradford Bulls.

We have been fortunate since the bad days of the seventies in having owners with money who have maintained success at the club and hopefully it will remain so in the future.

How many league titles have your academy won in the last decade?

Spot on

none but we've still produced some talent through it, do they only count if theyve won a title?

Nope but it’s usually a good guideline to the quality being produced

Exactly

thats not what you said, you said in the last 5 years Hudds have been the third best at bringing players through

Agreed on the first bit but don't blacken all the Wigan posters on here. Most are very polite to posters from other clubs and don't gloat about their success unless provoked.

I agree it's cocky and arrogant but are you seriously saying that a Saints or Leeds fan couldn't have written similar. I don't mean all Saints or Leeds fans, of course, but are you saying neither of those clubs have a single fan capable of writing this kind of post? Really?

I suggest you take a wander over to RedVee and see some of the filth written there (and I'm using the word 'filth' after due consideration). There are some decent posters who will occasionally attempt to police it but nowhere near enough from what are obviously intelligent and rational people. They need to be far more intolerant of some of the disgraceful and disgusting things written there. Anyone with any morals should be ashamed of swimming in the same cesspit to be honest. The post you are commenting on is tame by comparison.

I never mentioned best i said most

I would suggest that the likes of kruise leeming, jake connor, sam wood, nathan mason, jake wardle, darnell macintosh, matty english, innes and louis senior, olly russell have and will continue to be described by various sources as quality, that's not counting the ones who are in the championship or in our 1st team squad
for a club who offer nothing to the sport thats a pretty good production in a short space of time.

Olly Russell was a member of the Wigan Under 16's, but from what I understood at the time was released because of a attitude problem and went to Salford and then Huddersfield.

Epitomise is a synonym for epitomize in activity topic. You can use "Epitomise" instead a verb "Epitomize", if it concerns topics such as illustrate, reduction, representation, abridge

Did not understand a word of that

Basically you can use epitomise instead of epitomize if its used as a representation, which the original post was. So both are correct. If you're american. British uses epitomise.

I generally find if youre going to call someone out for saying/spelling something incorrectly you should have a quick google first.

Also im well aware this post falls under point scoring so will probably be deleted but i didnt start it

best at bringing them through is the same thing....I never said you brought the best quality

who classed/classes sam wood or nathan mason as quality??

Sam Wood has been arguablly one of our best players this year and mason was described as such by the sky team plus other coaches who have worked with him

must be true if the sky team said it



did he play v us? I dont remember him