Sadly you are yet another wakey poster who feels the need to analyse my mindset rather than focus upon rugby. You appear to have little talent for either task.

Your first question is meaningless. He is doing the job and has a generous 3 year contract to boot. Why are you and others so thin skinned when agar's dreadful record at Hull is raised? Why is it anathema to you to ask why a club that wants to build for the future would appoint a coach with such a poor record.

Your need to lapse into talk of looking down the nose / sticking the boot is playground stuff. I think highly of Glover and what he is trying to do. That does not mean that I must then pretend that Agar is a good appointment or having 9 or so overseas players is good practice or that flogging Danny kirmond is good coaching. Nor will I pretend that Collis can defend or that some signings are not creaking gates.

HTH

I'd suggest to all Wakefield fans to not reply. We all know where this is going and by replying to 'anything' in the post, you are helping the agenda. Simple do not reply and the poster will hibernate for a while before a new name arrives and then don't reply again. Simples

Quote ="Cripesginger"I think posters like you, constantly forelock tugging re wakey, have difficulty understanding that since his injuries he cannot get 1st team football. After injuries some players just don't have the guts to front up and play hard. [uSince 2007 - ie 2008 onwards - he has not been picked regularly by any coach. [/uYou may be comforted by pretending he has been continuously injured for 4 years. [uHowever on planet earth the reality is that coaches have been loath to give him a regular spot.[/u....until Agar or whoever wants him at wakey. The three games I have seen him - tv and Giants - he does not have the taste for muscling up in defence. I recall that kirmond used to 'step' quite a bit in games but since his injury it just disappeared. These things happen. Your inability to see the defensive frailties of colis is duly noted.'" Lets just blow your theories and inaccuracies out of the water with some facts. You state Collis hasnt been selected regularly by any coach from 2008 onwards...... [uIn 2010 he played 19 out of 24 fixtures,missing rounds 1&2 and then 4 -6 through injury.[/u www.sharks.com.au/?s=article-display&id=24867 So after returning from injury in round 7 he was selected for every game til end of season. Any sane person would call that been selected regularly on what ever planet you wish!!!!!!!!!

Quote ="Cripesginger"I think posters like you, constantly forelock tugging re wakey, have difficulty understanding that since his injuries he cannot get 1st team football. After injuries some players just don't have the guts to front up and play hard. [uSince 2007 - ie 2008 onwards - he has not been picked regularly by any coach. [/uYou may be comforted by pretending he has been continuously injured for 4 years. [uHowever on planet earth the reality is that coaches have been loath to give him a regular spot.[/u....until Agar or whoever wants him at wakey. The three games I have seen him - tv and Giants - he does not have the taste for muscling up in defence. I recall that kirmond used to 'step' quite a bit in games but since his injury it just disappeared. These things happen. Your inability to see the defensive frailties of colis is duly noted.'" Lets just blow your theories and inaccuracies out of the water with some facts. You state Collis hasnt been selected regularly by any coach from 2008 onwards...... [uIn 2010 he played 19 out of 24 fixtures,missing rounds 1&2 and then 4 -6 through injury.[/u www.sharks.com.au/?s=article-display&id=24867 So after returning from injury in round 7 he was selected for every game til end of season. Any sane person would call that been selected regularly on what ever planet you wish!!!!!!!!!

I don't think anyone on the Wakefield site is pretending that Agar is a good appointment, many didn't/don't want him, but all are willing to give him a chance. As for the rest of the post, i don't know of anybody who has asked you to pretend anything or that condone's any of it. As for Collis, give the guy a chance. He obviously has something about him to play under the coach's he has. Maybe it's gone and he will be a waste of space but perhaps he will come good, who know's? Certainly not you or me.

Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Lets just blow your theories and inaccuracies out of the water with some facts. You state Collis hasnt been selected regularly by any coach from 2008 onwards...... [uIn 2010 he played 19 out of 24 fixtures,missing rounds 1&2 and then 4 -6 through injury.[/u www.sharks.com.au/?s=article-display&id=24867 So after returning from injury in round 7 he was selected for every game til end of season. Any sane person would call that been selected regularly on what ever planet you wish!!!!!!!!!'" You may think 104 in 9 seasons is regular. Most do not. His total games from 2008 / 9 /10 and 11 is dreadful whichever way you need to justify it. Going from wests to the second worst team in the comp (cronulla ) is a step backwards. Playing in a team with the second worse defence in the comp would ceratinly be more comfortable for Collis. Strange that when a new coach came on board it coincided with another collis injury and 'no games'. Credit to his agent

Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Lets just blow your theories and inaccuracies out of the water with some facts. You state Collis hasnt been selected regularly by any coach from 2008 onwards...... [uIn 2010 he played 19 out of 24 fixtures,missing rounds 1&2 and then 4 -6 through injury.[/u www.sharks.com.au/?s=article-display&id=24867 So after returning from injury in round 7 he was selected for every game til end of season. Any sane person would call that been selected regularly on what ever planet you wish!!!!!!!!!'" You may think 104 in 9 seasons is regular. Most do not. His total games from 2008 / 9 /10 and 11 is dreadful whichever way you need to justify it. Going from wests to the second worst team in the comp (cronulla ) is a step backwards. Playing in a team with the second worse defence in the comp would ceratinly be more comfortable for Collis. Strange that when a new coach came on board it coincided with another collis injury and 'no games'. Credit to his agent

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i have seen him in 3 games this year and his defence was poor.

A straighforward RL question: Do you think Agar utilises kirmond effectively? Looks to me that the use of interchanges re DK is poor.

[I have a lot of time for Danny, raleigh and Wood so there is another thing I like about wakey



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FFS give it a rest or take your petty arguments to pm? What has all this crap got to do with luke george scoring 3 tries?

Yet more flannel.
You dont even have the decency to admit your inaccuracies/lies.
How sad.

104 games in 9 seasons. a dreadful record. Sorry if facts interfere with your fantasy about Collis. He is soft and can't defend. You have neither the intelligence nor integrity to face the facts.

You keep pretending he can defend







I see a few wakey fans are able to see that on the playing side Elston and Agar may well be letting down Mr Glover. A coach and many questionable players signed for 2/3 years. Commiting Mr Glover's money and tieing his hands.

Enjoy your games versus the wolves and dragons

STILL FEEDING.

DO NOT FEED.

JT your posts are like ambrosia.



Enjoy the games versus the Wolves and the Dragons.

If you say it twice does that make it funny?

Another hat trick tonight.

Well taken, but I suspect my nan could probably manage at least a couple of tries against that Cas defence.

But does she have Luke's hair? I think not.

I don't think she has any, she's been dead thirty years.

Salford (7th) 10-56 Leeds (4th)

Super League at its highly competitive best again.

Is Luke George actually any good, or are his try scoring feats akin to Danny Arnold's when he was at Saints during our glory years? I can't say I've ever noticed him, the players that have always impressed me there have been Cudjoe and Lawrence and I can't say I noticed him at Wakefield much either.

Every team should have at least one player sporting a Sideshow Bob haircut. It ought to be part of the licensing criteria.

So far his defence has been excellent, as has his work rate and desire to be in the right place at the right time. In short, so far he is looking the real deal imo.

He was at Wakefield...thats why you wont have noticed him .....He's back home now and playing very very well for us !

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Another hat trick!!!

Luke George was frustrating for Wakefield. When he played he showed glimpses of quality, but generally picked up injuries far too frequently. Last season, he was moved into the centre and looked a real threat and side struggled to get him down. I'd love to have him back, he's a try scorer and poacher and those are far too rare down at BV