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| Quote ="Starbug"Who said I believed the Leigh club ?
It wasn't the Leigh club that told me about not running an academy team , It was Bill Appleton and Lee Crooks , when they visited me in my capacity as Academy director at Leigh Centurions
They work . well Lee did at that time , for the RFL , so either they made a trip down to Leigh to tell me a lie , or I am lieing ? take your pick'"
So who do you believe?
IIRC, you even ultimately admitted the RFL had not stated you were not allowed to run an academy team. Despite repeated earlier claims that they had told you that.
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| Quote ="Wheels".
Rimmer said yesterday that it will be the Champions, both Grand Finalists, and the next highest placed team from the league standings.'"
Not in the report was it ?
So you were there , can we believe you ?
So the Championship 1 GF now is as important as the Championship one , not many will bother with that then
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| Quote ="Wheels".
Whats the point in you even asking if you don't believe what they say anyway?'"
I do believe they have a stadium available , but that is the only ' detail ' in that report
What else does it tell us ?
Not having a go , but no point in giving some ' detail ' unless there is some ' detail ' in the post , he could have just said , Northanpton Have a stadium available , which I would guess was a ' given '
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not in the report was it ?
So you were there , can we believe you ?
So the Championship 1 GF now is as important as the Championship one , not many will bother with that then'"
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I didn't think I needed to point it out. Obviously I did.
Of course you can believe me.
Humbug.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not in the report was it ?
So you were there , can we believe you ?
So the Championship 1 GF now is as important as the Championship one , not many will bother with that then'"
To be fair it will only be "unimportant" for one season as 2013 will be as normal so only the winners will go up.
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"3rd still misses out as the 2nd place side would go up if the 4th v 5th game happened to be the final if the 2nd place club was included in the play offs or not.'"
Very true. Maybe it will just be a top four play off then?!
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| Quote ="Starbug"I do believe they have a stadium available , but that is the only ' detail ' in that report
What else does it tell us ?
Not having a go , but no point in giving some ' detail ' unless there is some ' detail ' in the post , he could have just said , Northanpton Have a stadium available , which I would guess was a ' given ''"
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The detail will be in the business plan that was submitted to Steve Ferres. They do not need to make that public if they don't want to.
The story on their site is letting their fans know they applied, nothing more.
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| Quote ="Richie"So who do you believe?
IIRC, you even ultimately admitted the RFL had not stated you were not allowed to run an academy team. Despite repeated earlier claims that they had told you that.'"
No they made it as difficult as possible , and financially unpractical , but the intention was there , basically , " This is the cost , so you wont be involved "
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| Quote ="Wheels".
The detail will be in the business plan that was submitted to =#FF0000Steve Ferres. They do not need to make that public if they don't want to.
The story on their site is letting their fans know they applied, nothing more.'"
As I said earlier , His history isn't that confidence inspiring , Carlisle and kent Invicta , I wonder what their business plans read like ?
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| Quote ="rupert bear"I would be willing to bet that all of the people who think that this is a good idea do not support clubs in CC1.'"
I support a Championship club who in the near future are very likely to be relegated to Championship One.
I think its a good idea.
As for the travel costs argument which has been put forward a couple of times, Conference football teams seem to manage the trips, my own team have 11 away trips each season of 150 miles or over including 5 of over 200 miles, they seem to manage to find the cost of hiring a coach for the day.
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| Quote ="Starbug"As I said earlier , His history isn't that confidence inspiring , Carlisle and kent Invicta , I wonder what their business plans read like ?'"
Well York City Knight's business plan was pretty solid.
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| Quote ="Him"I support a Championship club who in the=#FF0000 near future are very likely to be relegated to Championship One.
I think its a good idea.
As for the travel costs argument which has been put forward a couple of times, Conference football teams seem to manage the trips, my own team have 11 away trips each season of 150 miles or over including 5 of over 200 miles, they seem to manage to find the cost of hiring a coach for the day.'"
Not this year though
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| Quote ="Wheels"Well York City Knight's business plan was pretty solid.'"
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| Quote ="tb"You've got to love (some) RLFans …
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RFL: "Right. We'll bring in four expansion clubs into CC1"
"No! You're trying to destroy us!"
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As i said earlier , a knee jerk reaction , the one thing I dont understand if they are adding 4 , is why not then run 2 leagues of 12 , I dont understand why the 14/10 split is better ?
I think the Championshp 1 clubs left in would feel less isolated in that scenario
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| Quote ="Starbug"As i said earlier , a knee jerk reaction , the one thing I dont understand if they are adding 4 , is why not then run 2 leagues of 12 , I dont understand why the 14/10 split is better ?
I think the Championshp 1 clubs left in would feel less isolated in that scenario'"
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This I would agree with you on.
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| Quote ="Starbug"As i said earlier , a knee jerk reaction , the one thing I dont understand if they are adding 4 , is why not then run 2 leagues of 12 , I dont understand why the 14/10 split is better ?
I think the Championshp 1 clubs left in would feel less isolated in that scenario'"
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| Quote ="Wheels".
This I would agree with you on.'"
The SL equivilant of what will be Championship 1 in 2013 would be say Huddersfield and Castleford with 8 Quins clubs to play , now ask yourself a question , would both those clubs be able to run financially in that scenario ?
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| It is truly armageddon when Starbug finds agreement in consecutive posts. Don't let it go to your head Steve
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"It is truly armageddon when Starbug finds agreement in consecutive posts. Don't let it go to your head Steve
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Dont you believe it , they KNOW I'm right about the whole bloody lot , but they daren't agree about it , the Emperors clothes look ' lovely '
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| [url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_6535-bold-future-awaits-new-look-championships.htmlMore for you to moan at Starbug...[/url
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| Quote ="dids858"Medway Dragons, Hemel, Bristol, Coventry, Northampton, Chester and Oxford.
Its a shame that Bramley had a troubled season as I would like to see them back.
As for the list above. I would ditch Chester (what league do they play in) & Medway not a high enough standard. Oxford not high enough standard.
Hemel is a yes they have playing all over for years. Cov is good if they can keep it up. Notts should be in rather than Northampton.
As for Bristol would like them to step up to RLC and see how they do for a couple of years.'"
You're assuming that the current summer conference amateur players are going to be the ones to step up, whereas I would assume that would not be the case for most of the above.
Chester would be one of the stronger applicants in terms of immediate playing strength, I'd have thought. The plan is basically Warrington Wizards moving to play at Chester FC, isn't it? Deva Stadium is council-owned & Pat Cluskey, chester FC general manager is former England & Ireland RL manager and had long spells at Leeds & Widnes. They'll be able to pick up stacks of NW based players who don't quite make it at SL level - just like Blackpool did and Swinton do.
Northampton bid is involving the town's football club and the council Sixfields stadium. Oxford I believe is also the town's football team rather than Cavaliers RLC team. Believe I'm correct in saying that Ian Lenaghan & his two sons are the main owners & directors there.
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| Quote ="Wheels"[url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_6535-bold-future-awaits-new-look-championships.htmlMore for you to moan at Starbug...[/url'"
Like what ?
Nothing in that other than what we already know after reading this thread ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"The SL equivilant of what will be Championship 1 in 2013 would be say Huddersfield and Castleford with 8 Quins clubs to play , now ask yourself a question , would both those clubs be able to run financially in that scenario ?'"
Yes and just imagine the uproar there would be then.
This has disaster written all over it.
Where are all these RL players going to come from to turn these amatuer teams into viable semi pro clubs in non RL areas?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I do believe they have a stadium available , but that is the only ' detail ' in that report
What else does it tell us ?
Not having a go , but no point in giving some ' detail ' unless there is some ' detail ' in the post , he could have just said , Northanpton Have a stadium available , which I would guess was a ' given ''"
The "detail" also detailed which stadium, who the backer was and which other sports club was involved in it. Of course if you only read "Northanpton Have a stadium available" then that tells us a lot.
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