Yes, weekends in Hull and Huddersfield are huge sellers with online travel firms....

When people mock Hull they are thinking of the housing estates. Hull city centre and in particular the old town are well worth a visit. But in general if the criteria for a worthy rugby team is a fascinating location then that's 95% of teams scuppered.

I don't believe that many folk would give this any consideration when planning a trip to watch a game of RL from within England.

However, if travelling to Toronto, Toulouse or Perpignan, that would be a very different matter.

Thanks for your review - I really don't think I'll suggest it as a romantic break for me and the wife just yet though. She can have a pretty short temper and I don't fancy an expensive divorce at the moment.

What a joke of a poster

then I read your post saying Wigan Warrington and Leigh don’t have that much history. That’s funny. Il add Widnes to that end too.

But history anyway shouldn’t be a criteria as such for criteria into superleague

If you can’t go off and choose a current GF winner then your heading down the road of looking at

Facilities and stadium
Finances
Youth development
Crowds

If a team does get picked, let’s not overthink or complicate the situation. Whoever comes up will be odds to finish bottom. Let’s not for a second be looking for a competitive play off top 5 SL to come up.

Ppp, IR80 is a brilliant troll. One of the best on here.

Remarkable statement from someone castigating others for not knowing history.

Lewis Carroll (Warrington)
Warrington bombing and its role in the Northern Ireland peace process
Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier
The Spinning Jenny (Leigh)
Significant English Civil War battles in Wigan and Leigh
First steam railway (Liverpool - Earlestown, just north of Warrington, where the first fatal rail accident also occured - Manchester)

I could be here all day

All correct, but it is Bradford.

Of course it's the team that has still to go and grovel to the RFL for permission to play somewhere next season.

the problem with saying so and so should not be allowed in because they don't have a pot to tinkle in is that some clubs already in superleague are in a similar poor position financially. in order to exclude clubs who are not going to bring any value, you have to speak from a position of strength in the first place

I agree to an extent. However, simply multiplying the problem isn't really a solution, is it?

As Cokey says IR80 was of course just trolling as usual but a Brilliant reply none the less.....

Why is anyone who disagrees a troll?

open your blinkered parochial mind...

Change the topic to 11 & 12 teams now Hudge has stepped down at HKR.

Yes, Hudgell has kindly supplied the answer we have all been waiting for - a 10 team SL. Who would be daft enough to invest new money in a sport that is on its knees, even more than it was before - other than Derek Beaumont?

I suppose the other option is to promote 4 teams from the Championship - Leigh, London, Toulouse and one other.

I'll be happy enough if we make it to the end of the season without any casualties among the teams or players.
We are indeed in testing times both in terms of the direct effects of Covid and the consequences of a deep recession.

Get to the end of the season and hope that SL and The Championship can go again next season.
With Toronto being on their booty and massive uncertainty whether the can or indeed should come back into SL, there's a whole load of head scratching and clever thinking needed to ensure that RL makes it through to the other side.

It's not investment though is it. It's covering the losses with no chance of your money back.

AFAIK Semor Kurdi fancies throwing away a lot of money like Mr. Beaumont.. If I was so successful i had £Millions spare I'd chuck it away on an RL club wouldn't you?

No point dying rich??

I agree on the whole but it depends on how you define value. The issue per se isn't the length or population along the M62 corridor. It's long and there's millions of people, most of whom find the game drab because there are clubs who survive in SL who haven't won anything since the 50s, don't produce top class players and have few fans despite being in relatively large towns. They bring no value and contribute to the competition having little in the way of actual competition or excitement.

Go on then tell us who these clubs are that aren't worthy of super league status, and then just to cheer us up provide us with the names of the clubs who will be the saviour of it, many thanks in advance.

The fact that you've responded suggests I don't need to. When I think of Saints, Leeds, Wire etc I don't think parochial M62 etc. Hull, Cas have an identity and a rich history of players, cup winning teams. Hull KR are regular strugglers but still have vibrancy and their fans care. I want to watch these teams on TV as they're an 'event'. London are important and I agree with the poster who said they should have stayed where they were building a fan base. York is a big city now and I enjoyed Leigh's all too brief sojourn in SL because of the enthusiasm. I think the above shows there is opportunity for expansion within the country and within the huge numbers of people who find clubs like Wakefield and Huddersfield as monochrome as I do. This Sporting Life. Moribund, a pair of concrete wellies as far as marketing the game.

And of course there's Bradford, whose rise and fall perfectly mirrors that of the fully professional game in this country.

What a load of crap... Huddersfield have more local lads in their team than almost anyone... and much as I would welcome London back who wants another plastic pitch at a third rate RU ground.

Wakey have stayed in SL whilst Leigh and London have tried and failed so this post is not steeped in reality why should Wakey go either ??

SL will get cornered by the Wolfpack and get them back in SL at the threat of them folding rather than lose face when they do, so all this is irrelevant.

12 SL teams next year same as started this season.. you know I’m right .....

Seems somebody else thinks your talking rubbish, nearly forgot, you never mentioned the teams you would introduce into your new exciting plans for super league.

Wakey should go for the reasons stated. Leigh and Bradford didn't finish bottom whereas Wakey did so on field results are entirely arbitrary in deciding and always have been. Considering the decline of the selling power of the game to broadcasters as has been suggested, the criteria for being in the elite league ought to consider what clubs bring to the comp apart from simply staying in it.

Yes I did. Bradford for obvious reasons. London to maintain expansion. Leigh as they were contributed the last time they were in the league. And then further down the line York and Newcastle. I wouldn't consider Fev as they're too connected to Leeds and a bit Wakey-esque in image.

The problem with Huddersfield is that as a visual spectacle for the sport, they are a huge negative with their empty stadium and, with it, the non existent atmosphere.

To be honest, they aren't the only ones with the issue of a ground that's too big for their means, but they are the one who seems to stand out, fairly or unfairly.