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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"I thought this post was not worthy of your royal attention, o holy one? What changed Your Majesties mind?'"
Have a little read back along the thread, O Chippy One. You may have misremembered something.
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| Quote ="Pepe"It was just a poor attempt at humour, on my behalf. Don’t take such things to heart.'"
TBH that comment was meant more generally to the few others who seemingly missed me while I was away. Your post was just a convenient place to park it.
And I never take anything said on here to heart. I'd have packed up and left long ago if I did.
[size=50*waits for the inevitable comeback to that straight line...[/size
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| Quote ="Kosh"Have a little read back along the thread, O Chippy One. You may have misremembered something.'"
Quote It's just impossible to have a sensible conversation about this topic because there are too many polarised opinions on both sides. I shall go back to looking in with amusement and keep my virtual fingers out of the meat grinder in the future.'"
Apparently I misremembered something so strongly it appeared in your own posts.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you see, there you go again, confusing the franchise application and process with the tick-box process of Sky.'"
Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
Stadiums that clubs play at
On field performance
Attendance levels
Player production
Financial stability
Salary cap infringements
Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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| Quote ="Starbug"Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
Stadiums that clubs play at
On field performance
Attendance levels
Player production
Financial stability
Salary cap infringements
Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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Going into administra….
…Oh, hang on.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Apparently I misremembered something so strongly it appeared in your own posts.'"
Mea Culpa. I thought you were referring to my response to Starbug's post a few pages back.
On the general point, I'm just tidying up a few ongoing convos then you can go back to shouting at each other from your assorted entrenched positions with no further interference from me.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"you see, there you go again, confusing the franchise application and process with the tick-box process of Sky.'"
Ah , now I understand , they need to be told in writing all that stuff , so basically whoever bulls the most gets the spot in SL
Thats why Leigh didn't get in , we told the truth , when in fact it was a lieing competition
They dont actually ' check ' anything to see if people have made things up , as long as its on the piece of paper
A bit like ' we were only following orders ' type thing , or a ' jobsworth ' saying " If you dont have a ' chitty ' you cant have the lifesaving medicine "
No problem , I know where we went wrong
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| Quote ="Starbug"Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
Stadiums that clubs play at
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Player production
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Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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You've missed out one important thing.
A certain "je ne sais quoi". Ultra transparency. A team has to have a certain something, the "it" factor, je ne sais quoi...if that's not clear to you, for shaaaame.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"You've missed out one important thing.
A certain "je ne sais quoi". Ultra transparency. A team has to have a certain something, the "it" factor, je ne sais quoi...if that's not clear to you, for shaaaame.'"
You are Abe Simpson and I claim my ÂŁ5
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| Quote ="Pepe"You are Abe Simpson and I claim my ÂŁ5
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I'll be back in a jiffy!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"anybody not judging them by subjective opinion would be truly idiotic.'"
Do you actually understand what subjective means? It means 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts.' Now if you genuinely believe that decisions made by the RFL should be 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts' that's your prerogative, but I shan't be wasting my time discussing anything further with you.
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| Quote ="ExiledTiger"Do you actually understand what subjective means? It means 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts.' Now if you genuinely believe that decisions made by the RFL should be 'influenced by or based on =#FF0000personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts' that's your prerogative, but I shan't be wasting my time discussing anything further with you.'"
That explains it
It is who has the best pies
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| Ah I think I see it now.
Those who the RFL wanted in super league only had to enter a subjective licence application. Anyone they didn't want in there had to submit a quantative one which could be manipulated by being subjective of the quantative. Very clear. It allows the RFL to manipulate the whole process and build an artificial super league of their liking!!!
Hardly fair that eh? Oh, there's that word again!
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| Quote ="Starbug"Ah , I see , so they dont take into consideration
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Or even location
So what do they decide on ?
Who has the best pies ?
You have excelled yourself with that post
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Yes, you have managed to reproduce the tick list, and added a comedy entry as well. What point are you trying to make? That there is nothing else the RFL need to take into account and so the actual bid was pointless?
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| Quote ="ExiledTiger"Do you actually understand what subjective means? It means 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts.' Now if you genuinely believe that decisions made by the RFL should be 'influenced by or based on personal beliefs or feelings, rather than based on facts' that's your prerogative, but I shan't be wasting my time discussing anything further with you.'"
What made you think it was a good idea to provide a deliberately narrow definition of a term and then pretend that any wider definitions didnt exist. On the internet, where there are about a million free on-line dictionaries which will provide you with the full definition of the word?
But to skip past the English lesson you need which I cant be d to give you.
Do I believe that the information needed to provide a full and complete analysis of a clubs best place with in the RL structure is far too wide, far too varied, and in some cases far too idiosyncratic that it would be naive bordering on idiotic to shoehorn such a complex and varied procedure in to a tick box checklist, then yes. It would be stupid.
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Ah I think I see it now.
Those who the RFL wanted in super league only had to enter a subjective licence application. Anyone they didn't want in there had to submit a quantative one which could be manipulated by being subjective of the quantative. Very clear. It allows the RFL to manipulate the whole process and build an artificial super league of their liking!!!
Hardly fair that eh? Oh, there's that word again!'"
How are you still not getting it?
Even if we accept your bonkers premise that the RFL 'got in who they wanted' I have already explained to you there was no need for them to manipulate the process. The Process allowed them to pick which bids they thought were the best out of the clubs rated C.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"What made you think it was a good idea to provide a deliberately narrow definition of a term and then pretend that any wider definitions didnt exist. On the internet, where there are about a million free on-line dictionaries which will provide you with the full definition of the word?
But to skip past the English lesson you need which I cant be d to give you.
Do I believe that the information needed to provide a full and complete analysis of a clubs best place with in the RL structure is far too wide, far too varied, and in some cases far too idiosyncratic that it would be naive bordering on idiotic to shoehorn such a complex and varied procedure in to a tick box checklist, then yes. It would be stupid.'"
If you insist on being a tiresome language pedant, you better be sure your own brand of English is absolutely correct.
There is an apostrophe in "can't" and there should be a comma after "give you" because it is an unfinished sentence. You've started a question and then turned it in to a statement mid sentence. You forgot a question mark in your very first sentence. There should have been a comma after "need".
Seriously, language pedants are the biggest bores on here and the only reason I'm correcting you is to demonstrate just how hypocritical and stupid you people are. This is a messageboard, not a curriculum vitae.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The Process allowed them to pick which bids they thought were the best out of the clubs rated C.'"
They could have saved time and money by not rating clubs and just picking all the clubs couldn't they? Or were they trying to give the impression that they were being fair and rating each club against each other on the same areas?
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"If you insist on being a tiresome language pedant, you better be sure your own brand of English is absolutely correct.
There is an apostrophe in "can't" and there should be a comma after "give you" because it is an unfinished sentence. You've started a question and then turned it in to a statement mid sentence. You forgot a question mark in your very first sentence. There should have been a comma after "need".
Seriously, language pedants are the biggest bores on here and the only reason I'm correcting you is to demonstrate just how hypocritical and stupid you people are. This is a messageboard, not a curriculum vitae.'"
I think you will find I wasnt being pedantic, I kinda made the same point as you. Which considering your last sentence makes your little rant here kind of funny.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"They could have saved time and money by not rating clubs and just picking all the clubs couldn't they? '" They could, but it would have been quite hard for them to decide which ones they thought were the best without looking at which ones they thought were best.
Quote Or were they trying to give the impression that they were being fair and rating each club against each other on the same areas?'"
They did do this, on one part of the application process. They had another, much wider more subjective part of the process also.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"They could, but it would have been quite hard for them to decide which ones they thought were the best without looking at which ones they thought were best.
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You really think that they wouldnt have known that the Leeds, Wigan or Catalans bid were better than Castlefords or Featherstones without looking at them?
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| So smokey, you're saying the RFL had applications that all got the same grade and then subjectively picked who they "thought" were best. Meaning they picked the teams they wanted. As I just said. That is what subjective means
Who is that doesnt understand?
I'm through with this now. People like you supporting the process shows how naff and retarded the whole thing is. Rugby league deserves to disappear up its own a**e at the moment
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"What made you think it was a good idea to provide a deliberately narrow definition of a term and then pretend that any wider definitions didnt exist. On the internet, where there are about a million free on-line dictionaries which will provide you with the full definition of the word?
But to skip past the English lesson you need which I cant be d to give you.
=#FF0000:2kklhzhaDo I believe that the information needed to provide a full and complete analysis of a clubs best place with in the RL structure is far too wide, far too varied, and in some cases far too idiosyncratic that it would be naive bordering on idiotic to shoehorn such a complex and varied procedure in to a tick box checklist, then yes. It would be stupid.[/
So it was the pies then
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"What made you think it was a good idea to provide a deliberately narrow definition of a term and then pretend that any wider definitions didnt exist. On the internet, where there are about a million free on-line dictionaries which will provide you with the full definition of the word?
But to skip past the English lesson you need which I cant be d to give you.
Do I believe that the information needed to provide a full and complete analysis of a clubs best place with in the RL structure is far too wide, far too varied, and in some cases far too idiosyncratic that it would be naive bordering on idiotic to shoehorn such a complex and varied procedure in to a tick box checklist, then yes. It would be stupid.'"
Its the accepted definition in the Oxford dictionary, but if you feel the need to find some obscure reference from an unvalidated online source in order to try to save face then go ahead.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"You really think that they wouldnt have known that the Leeds, Wigan or Catalans bid were better than Castlefords or Featherstones without looking at them?'"
Well yes, they did know that. Thats why Leeds were graded A, and Wigan B and Castleford and Featherstone C
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