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| Quote ="Kosh"Did you even read that thread?
We've done stuff for visiting fans, most notable several 'party in the park' events. They were well received but had zero impact on away fan numbers.'"
Your reputation proceeds you, ask any sets of SL fans 'Would you like to go to this event with some Hull fans?' 90% would say 'no thanks'...why? because you have a poor reputation in the sport. The solution is a long term approach to building some bridges and enticing fans back to the KC, then your crowds may increase...but events like on Sunday will not help, so the club and the police need to collaborate to address the idiots.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"If you could actually read the post you've quoted, you may not have felt the need to go into a penis-measuring competition.
He said it was the best turnout from Wigan since 2007. The point being made that the ticket prices didn't dissuade many.
The overall crowd has nothing to do with that.
Now back to the "my Dad's harder than your Dad" type of argument you had going...'"
And I have asked for his sources on the evidence of this, still waiting...
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| Quote ="Dave K."That's a big shock Wigan, [uwho have been successful the last couple of years[/u and are better supported than Hull getting bigger crowds, you really are a clown.
Any club achieving an average of over 10K in RL should be applauded.'"
The last couple of years? Really...
Why are we better supported, just because of success...?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Will you please stop using facts and logic in any argument with this idiot. He clearly knows nothing about either.'"
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| Quote ="stusavage"You think 11,549 for Hull FC v Wigan is a decent crowd?
Wigan v Catalan - 14,464
Wigan v Wakefield - 13,609
Wigan v London - 12,608
Enough said really.'"
Well not really. Your point doesn't follow on from his in any logical way.
He mentioned the apparent best turnout of Wigan fans at the KC despite a claimed boycott over a few quid, and you say that the total attendance isn't that good because Wigan got more against Catalans, which doesn't relate to the original point.
Should have paid more attention at "understanding the point being made" class
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| Quote ="Chris28"Well not really. Your point doesn't follow on from his in any logical way.
He mentioned the apparent best turnout of Wigan fans at the KC despite a claimed boycott over a few quid, and you say that the total attendance isn't that good because Wigan got more against Catalans, which doesn't relate to the original point.
Should have paid more attention at "understanding the point being made" class'"
He may not have understood the point but your crowds at the KC, although decent, have been falling away over the last few years.
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There is one hell of a drop if you look back over the last few seasons. Obviously I dont have the split for home and away fans but, you want to try and encourage folk to come to your place and not just insult those who disagree with you.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"He may not have understood the point but your crowds at the KC, although decent, have been falling away over the last few years.
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There is one hell of a drop if you look back over the last few seasons. Obviously I dont have the split for home and away fans but, you want to try and encourage folk to come to your place and not just insult those who disagree with you.'"
Most of them that has dropped off are home fans who had had enough of the old regime.if you look at 2007,that was when Peter Sharp was in charge and we finished 3/4 that yr....the yrs after was 2 bottom 2 finishes and 2 whimpers in play-off and dont forget there has been a reccision.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Most of them that has dropped off are home fans who had had enough of the old regime.if you look at 2007,that was when Peter Sharp was in charge and we finished 3/4 that yr....the yrs after was 2 bottom 2 finishes and 2 whimpers in play-off and dont forget there has been a reccision.'"
As I said, i've no idea on the split of home and away, but the numbers will exist somewhere.
If the pies are talking rubbish, then ignore them but, if not your club should be trying to get them to attend.
The recession and the cost of petrol are major factors in going to away games. I never used to give any thought to petrol costs when going away, but when it costs over 80 quid to fill up you cant ignore it.
Better to go on the club coaches
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"As I said, i've no idea on the split of home and away, but the numbers will exist somewhere.
If the pies are talking rubbish, then ignore them but, if not your club should be trying to get them to attend.
The recession and the cost of petrol are major factors in going to away games. I never used to give any thought to petrol costs when going away, but when it costs over 80 quid to fill up you cant ignore it.
Better to go on the club coaches
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Good point and the fact that we and Rovers are "out on a limb" means the cost of travel to us is higher than to anywhere in West Yorkshire and considerably more for Lancs clubs. Hopefully the new management at the KC will be examining their pricing policy for away fans and improving the team for home fans, thus increasing the number of home supporters.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Good point and the fact that we and Rovers are "out on a limb" means the cost of travel to us is higher than to anywhere in West Yorkshire and considerably more for Lancs clubs. Hopefully the new management at the KC will be examining their pricing policy for away fans and improving the team for home fans, thus increasing the number of home supporters.'"
Aye, we dont envy you those Friday evening ko's over the hill. Its bad enough for us and we've got 60 miles head start on you guys.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"He may not have understood the point but your crowds at the KC, although decent, have been falling away over the last few years.
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There is one hell of a drop if you look back over the last few seasons. Obviously I dont have the split for home and away fans but, you want to try and encourage folk to come to your place and not just insult those who disagree with you.'"
I don't disagree, but that wasn't the point being discussed/argued. The one man boycott appears to have encouraged a decent away turnout
Maybe the other fans were happy he wasn't going and decided to go.
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| Quote ="Chris28"I don't disagree, but that wasn't the point being discussed/argued. The one man boycott appears to have encouraged a decent away turnout
Maybe the other fans were happy he wasn't going and decided to go.'"
Almost 5000 fans down on 2007, thats twice as many fans as they get down at the Broncos each week
Perhaps we've all been missing the point then. Even the FC fans think the price is too high
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| Quote ="Chris28"I don't disagree, but that wasn't the point being discussed/argued. The one man boycott appears to have encouraged a decent away turnout
Maybe the other fans were happy he wasn't going and decided to go.'"
In a word you are 'deluded'
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Good point and the fact that we and Rovers are "out on a limb" means the cost of travel to us is higher than to anywhere in West Yorkshire and considerably more for Lancs clubs. [uHopefully the new management at the KC will be examining their pricing policy for away fans[/u and improving the team for home fans, thus increasing the number of home supporters.'"
If this had been said this at the start we would of saved ourselves a week of debate!!
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| Quote ="stusavage"If this had been said this at the start we would of saved ourselves a week of debate!!'"
No it wouldn't, because you're obviously just some toerag who likes to see his name in print. Now p*ss off.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Almost 5000 fans down on 2007, thats twice as many fans as they get down at the Broncos each week
Perhaps we've all been missing the point then. Even the FC fans think the price is too high
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More to do with the fare offered I think, but too high for what was received, yes,
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"No it wouldn't, because you're obviously just some toerag who likes to see his name in print. Now p*ss off.'"
Does this forum have a moderator...for knuckle draggers like this?
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| Quote ="stusavage"And I have asked for his sources on the evidence of this, still waiting...'"
You haven't asked for anything, just persisted in being boring.
Having attended all but one of the Hull v Wigan games at the KC, I used the best evidence available to me to judge the numbers in the away end, my eyes.
Now trot along, for someone who never actually went to that fixture you seem to be obsessed by it.
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| Quote ="stusavage"Does this forum have a moderator...for knuckle draggers like this?
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If the moderators were doing their job, you'd be long gone by now.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"[uYou haven't asked for anything[/u, just persisted in being boring.
Having attended all but one of the Hull v Wigan games at the KC, [uI used the best evidence available to me to judge the numbers in the away end, my eyes.[/u
Now trot along, for someone who never actually went to that fixture you seem to be obsessed by it.'"
I asked you where you got those statisitcs from?
You are basing this on what you saw...bit technical that.
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| Quote ="stusavage"I asked you where you got those statisitcs from?
You are basing this on what you saw...bit technical that.'"
Bloody Norah, you're like herpes. Just when you think it's all clear you flare up again
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Bloody Norah, you're like herpes. Just when you think it's all clear you flare up again'"
Its those Hull lasses
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Almost 5000 fans down on 2007, thats twice as many fans as they get down at the Broncos each week
Perhaps we've all been missing the point then. Even the FC fans think the price is too high
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The 2007 game was the 2nd round of the play offs so the 16k gate is slightly exaggerated because of this. You have a point. But in a perverse sort of way the whole reason for the thread, the price disparity for home and away fans, is actually Hull FC trying to attract back those missing home fans by offering those who would attend more games at the KC on a yearly basis, a more affordable option.
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| Quote ="stusavage"I asked you where you got those statisitcs from?
You are basing this on what you saw...bit technical that.'"
The point, which you are persisting in missing, is that I never quoted any statistics (percentages, ratio's numerical data). So I had no reason to respond to your question regarding stats.
And, yes, basing something on what you see. The lawyers out there would call this Witness evidence
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"The point, which you are persisting in missing, is that I never quoted any statistics (percentages, ratio's numerical data). So I had no reason to respond to your question regarding stats.
And, yes, basing something on what you see. The lawyers out there would call this Witness evidence
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So basically your argument lacks any credible evidence or rigour then? Its down to your own perspective and interpretation...oh dear
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