Along with the almighty Halifax RLFC!!

Who? Who the hell are they? - I didn't see them mentioned on Boots 'n' All. Pfffffft.

Nice bit of spin there, Meatball.

However odemwingies’ suggestion [i‘if they were a top 8 team they would get crowds over 10, 000 as all the fans would go back.’ [/iWas fair enough. Maybe correct, maybe not, but it’s fair enough comment and not entirely unreasonable.

Your little joke, would be fair enough if there was no other club that wouldn’t lose support after several years in the lower leagues, but there isn’t is there?



In isolation I would accept it, but certain clubs seem to be fair game on this board and I doubt you would have made such a pithy remark if odemwingie had been talking about say……Toulouse.

Nothing to do with logic and everything to do with your zest for expansion, an attitude that drives you, and others like you, to ensure that anyone who dares say anything positive about clubs such as Widnes, Leigh, Hull KR etc, are immediately shot down by some snide remark or other, often by your good self.

Your remark lacked both analytical sense and humour. So it was either a swipe at Widnes fans, or you’re not as funny as you think you are. Imo it’s a case of both.

I think tbh were done here Pepe. I've been something of a passive observer for a while and were not welcome here any more. even threads not remotely touched by our fans can be turned against us.

Witness this one for example, although there have been plenty of others.

You've just been highly patronised, not because you are thick. You are one of the most knowledgable and reasonable fans on here. What people fail, FAIL to acknowledge that in Widnes, RL is the life blood of the town. It means far far more to us than certain other areas. The clubs existence isn't just a punt by the RFL or some businessman.

But it wont remain so if were treated like outsiders and small time so much by fans and organisers alike. Football will gain more and more of a foothold here.

There is one reason only you have been talked down to like that, it's your location, and were better off leaving them all to it because our name is mud no matter what we post.

Yes, I've pretty much seen the same attitude on this board for some time. Someone has a go at a current SL club and puts forward the horrendous notion that Widnes should have been given a licence instead and, despite there being no Widnes fan anywhere near the thread, we come in for stick.



Some of the trolls even start threads in the knowledge this will happen.



Ah well, there's only one thing left to do....



















UP YOURS VIRTUAL TERRACE!!!

Tish and pish. Did our handlebar mustached forefathers say this at the George Hotel in 1895? Of course not. Join us ! Stand and fight with the flatcappers !

I think beards and sandals rule here now.




It just isn't worth it, littlerich. I've now been demobbed and I’ve handed in my flatcap and whippet to the quartermaster stores.








[size=59If I’m still around, I may make a nuisance of myself again in 2011. [/size

Oh diddy widdums.

Perhaps if some of you didn't whinge and complain so much, others wouldn't have a pop.



Good on you for admitting it.

And while you're about it, you can go and find all the quotes from me where I've personally 'had a pop' at Widnes. Being pro-expansion is not a synonym for disliking Widnes, however much some of you might like to pretend it is.



And another cry baby pops his head above the parapet.

[url=http://viewtopic.php?p=13773192#13773192Pity I did this, isn't it?[/url

It hasn't stopped your persecution complex – although of course that would rather put a damper on your wallowing in self pity.

Quote ="Iain"Source?'" I have some evidence m'lud that Malcolm Alker say's it 'SEEMS' that the stadium has been put on the 'backburner'.Exhibit 'A' : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... olumn.html

Quote ="Iain"Source?'" I have some evidence m'lud that Malcolm Alker say's it 'SEEMS' that the stadium has been put on the 'backburner'.Exhibit 'A' : www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... olumn.html

Yes, That’s your answer to everything isn’t it?


What was that you said about [i‘stunningly logical and well-argued contributions’[/i?



Neither I nor any other Widnes fans have been moaning about either, Widnes’ omission from SL or Salford’s inclusion on this thread, so that just leaves your petty little remark. I have no reason to neither regret nor retract a word I have written.





I never said it was. Some people are able to talk about expansion without the need to resort to snide, pointless, remarks about certain clubs. I have no problem with expansion, just the way it’s being handled. Good luck to all those clubs who made it.


I have no intention of trawling though your posts. I’ve seen enough of the way fans of certain clubs get treated on the VT, with your acquiesance or otherwise, to know that fans of certain clubs are regarded as 2nd class citizens.

I could keep a close eye on your future remarks, about certain clubs, and point them out for you if you like?

When you manage one, perhaps it'll get a different response.



Paranoid bullcrap. No one group of fans is treated any differently than any other group of fans.

Still, at least you didn't throw your toys so far out of the pram, like one C Dalton Esq, that you actually resigned from moderating a forum on here that doesn't even discuss RL because you were so apparently unhappy with last June's decisions and presumably hold this online community and a non-RL forum to be partially responsible.

Er.... no.

Why would you say this?

I wasn't on the wind up at all.
I have no connections to Widnes or Leigh, I was just providing an alternative to League Freaks view who posted above me.

I'm aware that it's not just about 'housing', just mentioned I was really impressed with Leighs new turf but if they were to suceed at SL level they need to tap into the Bolton market. Salfords expanding catchment area is much bigger but they really do need to get the new ground sorted. They did promise after all, same with Wakey. Without that ground it is my personal opinion they are behind Widnes in the criteria, but as someone else pointed out, we dont make the decisions do we.

So funny , you should be a comedian

When will people learn , there is NO criteria , it does not exist

What sanctimonious drivel.

Did my post, in any way shape or form, hold YOU personally responsible for the activity of every poster generally on here? Did it? Do your singular actions in this respect negate the general ill feeling on here whenever my team is even mentioned in passing, by anyone?

That is the essence of the problem. Quite often when I've posted on here or elsewhere in the past, people have swayed conversations to what team I support. I totally reject your generalisations about widnes fans. Just because Viking warrior turns up every so often to make a single sarcastic post it should not give anyone the right - or the compulsion - to treat us all with contempt or judge us by the team we support.

But like I say, I'll leave you to it. It's no fun coming on here anymore so whats the point.

There are no criteria Starbug said so...

Well actually he said there is no criteria...

Shut up Lenny.

No. Close the door on your way out...

OK, I’ll try to assess why you would say this.

It cannot be for anything I’ve actually written so it can only be an attempt to tar me as a bitter little Widnes fan that only wants to whinge about not being given a licence. This would be very convenient wouldn’t it?

However, as I have already said, neither I nor any other Widnes fan has been on this thread, with the obvious exception of Fingerpostsfinest who doesn’t seem to be all there at times, whinging about Salford or Celtic or the decisions made by the RFL last June. The majority are well over that and are currently trying to enjoy our continued existence in the lower leagues.

I have made this abundantly clear in my earlier posts. Therefore I have given you no reason at all to construct your last little rant.

The only subject I’m dealing with here is your attitude towards a comment made by a supporter of another club, that Widnes may be able to get 10,000 supporters with a top 8 club in SL. That’s it!

It was a perfectly reasonable remark, I’m not saying it was correct, but it's not exactly out-there either. I understand you regard the RFL’s decision as fair and can see why you would say you are glad odemwingie was not making the decision last June, but what you wrote at the end both insults Widnes supporters and odemwingie for the mere mention of it.

That is what has become the norm here. If you had just left it at:

Then there's no issue.

But you just couldn’t could you. You seem to need to put such positive comments about some clubs down with a snide remark. I can only assume to intimidate anyone else from being in anyway positive about lower league, non-expansion clubs?

Now, to add insult to injury, you have decided to take a few looney Widnes fans’ comments over the past few months, and make the assumption we are all the same, when you couldn’t be further from the truth. Sadly you’re not the only one on this board with that view. It’s also a very convenient tactic to employ when making the mistake of typing something that shows you up for what you really are.

AKA: There's no Widnes fans whinging apart from the one's that are...

Another one who's presumably got some evidence to back up this implication that Pepe's assertion has some basis in reality.

Don't worry, Starbug, we'll wait patiently for you to share it with us.



Yet you can't stay away.



So you missed the word "some" or don't understand what it means?

That is funny. Unless they're flatcappers, you mean?

Okay.

I wait, with great interest, to see your proof of this.

How, exactly, is any group of posters here 'treated differently' from any other group?

What happens to them, for instance, that does not happen to any other group of posters (or visa versa)?

Are more warnings or bans handed out to this group than are handed out to posters from other groups?

If the answer to the last question is in the affirmative, then have those warnings and bans been handed down for reasons directly linked to whatever constitutes the group (ie to "flatcappers" for being "flatcappers"icon_wink.gif and for no other reason?

Please feel free to provide explanations and evidence of your findings, together with any other evidence that you consider pertinent to make your case.