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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Just not the ones which are based on the lazy stereotyping an entire nation.'"
I have no issue with the people of PNG, who I am sure 99.999% of are top quality folk, who like the rest of the Pacific nations are really friendly.
Fact remains, the infastructure isn't there, the transport links aren't there, the crime rate is terrible, the level of poverty is horrendous and the lack of education and access to medical care make it a 3rd world country.
What PNG and its Government needs is to do is meet the targets set by the organisations giving it aid to help with these issues...what they don't need is an NRL team.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"Lol
have they fixed the drainage at NIB yet?
what a disgrace
a 3rd world stadium'"
Torrential rain: Perth 15,371 - Gosford 6,700. I am glad it was the worse rain in over a decade on the night, it showed that WA RL fans are made of sturner stuff than NSW fans and sent a very strong message to Gallop about how much we want a team. Perth fans I salute you!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Torrential rain: Perth 15,371 - Gosford 6,700. I am glad it was the worse rain in over a decade on the night, it showed that WA RL fans are made of sturner stuff than NSW fans and sent a very strong message to Gallop about how much we want a team. Perth fans I salute you!
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that stadium isnt fit for the NRL
it was like watching water polo lol
what a disgrace.
so by your criteria there go the Reds then
Brisbane and central coast it is
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I have no issue with the people of PNG, who I am sure 99.999% of are top quality folk, who like the rest of the Pacific nations are really friendly.
Fact remains, the infastructure isn't there, the transport links aren't there, the crime rate is terrible, the level of poverty is horrendous and the lack of education and access to medical care make it a 3rd world country.
What PNG and its Government needs is to do is meet the targets set by the organisations giving it aid to help with these issues...what they don't need is an NRL team.'"
I dont disagree that the infrastructure and transport links arent there for PNG to use an NRL team how we use an NRL team, but they wouldnt use it as Australia/NZ would, or France or Wales or England use their SL sides. PNG want to use their NRL team as a development tool, to help them improve education and to help them send public help messages. The NRL side would act as a focal point, a rallying point for what is probably the most diverse and fractured nation in the world. It is part of them meeting these challenges.
The crime rate, as we have shown is lower than Brazil and SA, countries capable of the practicalities, and comparable to Russia, a nation nobody would pretend was too dangerous to visit.
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Quote ="dally messenger"that stadium isnt fit for the NRL
it was like watching water polo lol
what a disgrace.
so by your criteria there go the Reds then
Brisbane and central coast it is'"
Call me old fashioned but I'll take a 15K+ crowd and flooded field over a drained field and 6K fans. Don't worry Dally it will only happen once every 10years+ so you can tune into the Swans on that night!
Have they decided who is actually running the game in PNG yet?
www.islandsbusiness.com/news/ind ... 839769dc10
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Quote ="dally messenger"that stadium isnt fit for the NRL
it was like watching water polo lol
what a disgrace.
so by your criteria there go the Reds then
Brisbane and central coast it is'"
Call me old fashioned but I'll take a 15K+ crowd and flooded field over a drained field and 6K fans. Don't worry Dally it will only happen once every 10years+ so you can tune into the Swans on that night!
Have they decided who is actually running the game in PNG yet?
www.islandsbusiness.com/news/ind ... 839769dc10
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Quote ="JB Down Under"Call me old fashioned but I'll take a 15K+ crowd and flooded field over a drained field and 6K fans. Don't worry Dally it will only happen once every 10years+ so you can tune into the Swans on that night!
Have they decided who is actually running the game in PNG yet?
www.islandsbusiness.com/news/ind ... 839769dc10'"
yeh you must be old fashioned to justify that crap hole that is the NIB stadium
makes craven park look good lol
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Quote ="JB Down Under"Call me old fashioned but I'll take a 15K+ crowd and flooded field over a drained field and 6K fans. Don't worry Dally it will only happen once every 10years+ so you can tune into the Swans on that night!
Have they decided who is actually running the game in PNG yet?
www.islandsbusiness.com/news/ind ... 839769dc10'"
yeh you must be old fashioned to justify that crap hole that is the NIB stadium
makes craven park look good lol
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| Quote ="dally messenger"yeh you must be old fashioned to justify that crap hole that is the NIB stadium
makes craven park look good lol'"
It may not be the best but it has a capacity better then half of the Super League Clubs and looks more modern than Odsal or the Jungle or many English grounds including Saints current ground.
Saints new ground will have a capacity of 18k? thats ambitious for one of the leading Clubs in Super League, is it they can not afford to build a Stadium with more capacity or they don't think they need too?
What part of Australia do you live Dally?
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| Quote ="Jonesy"
What part of Australia do you live Dally?'"
He lives in Bradford Jonesy
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| Quote ="Jonesy"It may not be the best but it has a capacity better then half of the Super League Clubs and looks more modern than Odsal or the Jungle or many English grounds including Saints current ground.
Saints new ground will have a capacity of 18k? thats ambitious for one of the leading Clubs in Super League, is it they can not afford to build a Stadium with more capacity or they don't think they need too?
What part of Australia do you live Dally?'"
Loathe as I normally am to defend Saints, they get great crowds (and possibly the best walk-up crowd, as this season might well be proving) and have been getting them at up to 18k for years. What's the point of building a 25k stadium in RL over here? Very little. Especially as the North West is turning into a sporting monoculture where going to (association) football has slipped behind watching football on a dodgy foreign satellite as the most popular spectator sport.
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| Quote ="Urmston Wire"Loathe as I normally am to defend Saints, they get great crowds (and possibly the best walk-up crowd, as this season might well be proving) and have been getting them at up to 18k for years. What's the point of building a 25k stadium in RL over here? Very little. Especially as the North West is turning into a sporting monoculture where going to (association) football has slipped behind watching football on a dodgy foreign satellite as the most popular spectator sport.'"
If you are getting 18k crowds for years why would you build an 18k Stadium?
Makes no sense
The figures on St Helens Crowds do not support an 18k crowds often to be honest.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"If you are getting 18k crowds for years why would you build an 18k Stadium?
Makes no sense
The figures on St Helens Crowds do not support an 18k crowds often to be honest.'"
Well, you need capacity sometimes. Saints can sometimes fill 18k. They know they can't fill 25k. So why should they build bigger and have to maintain a bigger stadium? Look at poor old Darlo.
Similar to why Elland Road isn't a 70k capacity stadium.
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| Quote ="Jonesy"It may not be the best but it has a capacity better then half of the Super League Clubs and looks more modern than Odsal or the Jungle or many English grounds including Saints current ground.
Saints new ground will have a capacity of 18k? thats ambitious for one of the leading Clubs in Super League, is it they can not afford to build a Stadium with more capacity or they don't think they need too?
What part of Australia do you live Dally?'"
the bit that gave birth to the game
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| Quote ="dally messenger"yeh you must be old fashioned to justify that crap hole that is the NIB stadium
makes craven park look good lol'"
lol that's rich coming from a St George fan! What decade are Kogarah and/or Win due to be finished?
Dally's concept of a "fit" NRL ground
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| Quote ="dally messenger"the bit that gave birth to the game'"
Huddersfield?
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| Quote ="Jonesy"Huddersfield?'"
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as funny as your comments on PNG which im assuming youve visited regularly
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"lol that's rich coming from a St George fan! What decade are Kogarah and/or Win due to be finished?
Dally's concept of a "fit" NRL ground
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lol your photo is so old it doesnt even show the new grandstand
shame NIB dont have one ...
or drainage
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I can understand why Stains don't bother with updating the ground, afterall they couldn't even sell out a semi last year, what was it 18k that could be bothered to turn up at Kogarah? lol.
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I can understand why Stains don't bother with updating the ground, afterall they couldn't even sell out a semi last year, what was it 18k that could be bothered to turn up at Kogarah? lol.
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Quote ="JB Down Under"I can understand why Stains don't bother with updating the ground, afterall they couldn't even sell out a semi last year, what was it 18k that could be bothered to turn up at Kogarah? lol.
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lol we just had a new grand stand built
and have drainage too lol
watching that game in perth the other week i was loaking for noah
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Quote ="JB Down Under"I can understand why Stains don't bother with updating the ground, afterall they couldn't even sell out a semi last year, what was it 18k that could be bothered to turn up at Kogarah? lol.
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lol we just had a new grand stand built
and have drainage too lol
watching that game in perth the other week i was loaking for noah
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| loak all you want you won't find him, look at Kogorah and Win you are far more likely to find him at these antiquated, undersized grounds. NRL shouldn't allow sub 20k grounds in teh league, it's embarrasing.
NIB Upgrade - STAGE ONE $82mill >>>> Kogorah upgrade $13mill
NIB>WIN>>>>>>>>>>Kogorah
After Brooky and Leichardt, Kogorah is the worse ground in the NRL.
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| i took a trip down to kogarah when i was in sydney for the world cup....i liked it...a proper RL ground....all they need to do is seat the hill* and put a roof on the place
*i don't get hills?...if the NRL was played in the aussie summer i'd get them....but sydney is wetter than manchester in winter......cover the bloody fans
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"i took a trip down to kogarah when i was in sydney for the world cup....i liked it...a proper RL ground....all they need to do is seat the hill* and put a roof on the place
*i don't get hills?...if the NRL was played in the aussie summer i'd get them....but sydney is wetter than manchester in winter......cover the bloody fans
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nah they'd rather get 8,000 crowds!
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Would love to see PNG in the NRL, however you have to say there would be security concerns.
This article in the Guardian gives a rather frightening picture of Port Moresby
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... idfickling
However its not as bad as Cape town or New Orleans
malumnalu.blogspot.com/2009/01/i ... world.html
It would merely be a case of ensuring that players and officials could be kept safe, without being robbed or shot at etc.
In some ways having an NRL team could help generate wealth and investment in the city and country.
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Would love to see PNG in the NRL, however you have to say there would be security concerns.
This article in the Guardian gives a rather frightening picture of Port Moresby
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... idfickling
However its not as bad as Cape town or New Orleans
malumnalu.blogspot.com/2009/01/i ... world.html
It would merely be a case of ensuring that players and officials could be kept safe, without being robbed or shot at etc.
In some ways having an NRL team could help generate wealth and investment in the city and country.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I have no issue with the people of PNG, who I am sure 99.999% of are top quality folk, who like the rest of the Pacific nations are really friendly.
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Blimey GF,the 00.001 % of criminals must be absolutely knackered then,given the stats you have posted.
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Would love to see PNG in the NRL, however you have to say there would be security concerns.
This article in the Guardian gives a rather frightening picture of Port Moresby
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... idfickling
However its not as bad as Cape town or New Orleans
malumnalu.blogspot.com/2009/01/i ... world.html
It would merely be a case of ensuring that players and officials could be kept safe, without being robbed or shot at etc.
In some ways having an NRL team could help generate wealth and investment in the city and country.'"
They are the only expansion team who will not be able to sign current NRL/SL players (who is going to want to live there?) so where exactly will they get a squad from? They need to
A) Sort out who is running the game in PNG
B) Build a stadium
C) Get $10 million a year worth of sponsors
D) Sort out their jnrs (made a big step in this direction this week with the announcement of the countries first national jnr programme)
E) Develop 20+ NRL standard players
F) Build a visiting team secure village
G) Sort out an infrastructure for the club
H) Sort out a TV deal so there is some value add to the NRL
I) Find 20K PNG'ers who can affords the price of an NRL ticket
Then they'll be ready! Say around 2040?
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Quote ="The Chair Maker"Would love to see PNG in the NRL, however you have to say there would be security concerns.
This article in the Guardian gives a rather frightening picture of Port Moresby
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/se ... idfickling
However its not as bad as Cape town or New Orleans
malumnalu.blogspot.com/2009/01/i ... world.html
It would merely be a case of ensuring that players and officials could be kept safe, without being robbed or shot at etc.
In some ways having an NRL team could help generate wealth and investment in the city and country.'"
They are the only expansion team who will not be able to sign current NRL/SL players (who is going to want to live there?) so where exactly will they get a squad from? They need to
A) Sort out who is running the game in PNG
B) Build a stadium
C) Get $10 million a year worth of sponsors
D) Sort out their jnrs (made a big step in this direction this week with the announcement of the countries first national jnr programme)
E) Develop 20+ NRL standard players
F) Build a visiting team secure village
G) Sort out an infrastructure for the club
H) Sort out a TV deal so there is some value add to the NRL
I) Find 20K PNG'ers who can affords the price of an NRL ticket
Then they'll be ready! Say around 2040?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"loak all you want you won't find him, look at Kogorah and Win you are far more likely to find him at these antiquated, undersized grounds. NRL shouldn't allow sub 20k grounds in teh league, it's embarrasing.
NIB Upgrade - STAGE ONE $82mill >>>> Kogorah upgrade $13mill
NIB>WIN>>>>>>>>>>Kogorah
After Brooky and Leichardt, Kogorah is the worse ground in the NRL.'"
lol if Perth get in theyll have the worst ground in the nrl
and you mock other clubs for bad grounds
this is why your credibility is shot to pieces
its a real shame the WA state government isnt as committed to RL as the NSW one and building a proper RL ground like the one in Gosford rather than making teams play at that dump the NIB
with a ground like the one in gosford the perth bid would only be stengthened
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