|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 22777 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2020 | Feb 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="i hate pies"Exactly, this has to be the ultimate aim. once we have domestic leagues successfully in a number of countries, especially European, can we then build on that by having European competitions. In turn, this will increase money, press exposure, spectator numbers and will almost certainly be the main factor in getting a good international scene.
No idea if this will happen or how long it will take, however i would love our game to be in this state one day.'"
We would be going in the exact opposite direction to pretty much every other sport in the world doing this. The world is getting smaller and smaller and people care less and less about small atomised comps. All major sports leagues are wanting to grow their footprint. Only ours has shrinking it as not only a realistic but a desirable possibility.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 4938 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2018 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Just not feasible at a semi - pro level.
Our game could steal a step by being one of the first to go to a worldwide comp because that's the way the world is moving but it won't.'"
[uTranslation[/u: I love franchises I do. The more the merrier. Subway, Maccas, KFC, Starbucks... lovely jubbly. Canadian Club whisky please. Oh, and Cas, Fev and Wakey should merge and call themselves Calder.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 4193 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Quote ="i hate pies"My only concern with this is, and this applies to Catalans, Toulouse and even crusaders to an extent. We don't need teams from different countries in the same league, we need a solid league in different countries. That's what I call expansion'"
Don't forget Catalans play in their domestic competition as well. We are almost playing 12 month rugby, and our team in the domestic competition is there trying to develop French players to come through.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 22777 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2020 | Feb 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="William Eve"[uTranslation[/u: I love franchises I do. The more the merrier. Subway, Maccas, KFC, Starbucks... lovely jubbly. Canadian Club whisky please. Oh, and Cas, Fev and Wakey should merge and call themselves Calder.'" Call your mum. If you are this desperate for attention just pick up the phone and call her. Surely thats a better way to spend your time.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 1005 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| This is mental. Isn't there a clutch of clubs in a league on the East Coast of USA? Philly, Providence, Boston etc. Might be a bit lower standard than they want however.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 2448 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Sep 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="BigRedV"This is mental. Isn't there a clutch of clubs in a league on the East Coast of USA? Philly, Providence, Boston etc. Might be a bit lower standard than they want however.'"
You've hit the nail right on the head there BigRedV. 2016 will be a key season as 2 matches will decide RLWC qualification. I think they realize that the only way that they can improve is to be consistently playing better opposition.
Can it happen? Well, Toronto would automatically be in the Top 10 best-supported sides playing in the three English leagues. Canada got 5,000 to watch them play the RAF for goodness sake! They seem to have the money in place to finance it and a reasonable logistic plan for making it work. Having said that, to call the fanbase fanatical is really a stretch - more like curious at the moment. It's bizarre to be in a stadium with 5,000 people and you are the only one shouting "OFFSIDE!" OR "FORWARD"!
Should it happen? Well, obviously I would love it to, for purely selfish reasons! It doesn't feel right though somehow, I have to say. On the other hand, if a foreign team like Catalans can do it, whats the difference, other than a longer flight?
Will it happen? I cannot see it myself...it's just too far outside the comfort zone of most people.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2638 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2022 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Jimmythecuckoo"Don't forget Catalans play in their domestic competition as well. We are almost playing 12 month rugby, and our team in the domestic competition is there trying to develop French players to come through.'"
i didnt know this! fair play. is this where the likes of escare came from then?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Toronto to Manchester in Feb/March is only £400 a pop (London even cheaper) x 25 personnel = £10,000 a trip x 10 trips (less any group/frequent flyer discounts) £100k
These are direct non stop flights which are 8 hours
Arranging group accommadation at various bases for 25 , sharing of training facilities etc around £500-650k
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1995 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2023 | Nov 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Toronto to Manchester in Feb/March is only £400 a pop (London even cheaper) x 25 personnel = £10,000 a trip x 10 trips (less any group/frequent flyer discounts) £100k
These are direct non stop flights which are 8 hours
Arranging group accommadation at various bases for 25 , sharing of training facilities etc around £500-650k'"
If you make a big group booking 12 months in advance for 10 trips (or 20 trips if you book for opposition teams as well) you will get if for half that.
If you book an extra 25 seats for supporters and sell them on for full price, you will be close to break even.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="roopy"If you make a big group booking 12 months in advance for 10 trips (or 20 trips if you book for opposition teams as well) you will get if for half that.
If you book an extra 25 seats for supporters and sell them on for full price, you will be close to break even.'"
Exactly, so not the millions that some are saying it would be, in fact totally feasible if they have a backer and some eager fans, throw in 50 SL freebie tickets per visit for them too as a sweetner and see what happens..I mean we'd be the world only global league in a ball contact sport
I would so love for this to happen, especially since Hemel is right on my doorstep
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14970 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| The only issue for me is whether the Canadian team can deal with the regular travelling as the once a year shouldn't be a problem for UK clubs.
Presumably they'd be entered into the Challenge Cup too?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 2448 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Sep 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| looks like they would try and come and play in batches...even so...would require a lot of time off work in the summer...unless they are thinking of going professional.
Look out for Enoch "the Warrior" Walmalwa if this does happen...the definition of a speedy prop (well a second rower at least)!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 33727 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2022 | May 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Don't see any scenario where the Canadians wouldn't be full time, personally.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 5392 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 1970 | Jun 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Quote ="mapleyther"looks like they would try and come and play in batches...even so...would require a lot of time off work in the summer...unless they are thinking of going professional.
Look out for Enoch "the Warrior" Walmalwa if this does happen...the definition of a speedy prop (well a second rower at least)!'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6700NLax5Mg
Stevo sounds like he has a sore throat and quite enthusiastic..lol
|
|
Quote ="mapleyther"looks like they would try and come and play in batches...even so...would require a lot of time off work in the summer...unless they are thinking of going professional.
Look out for Enoch "the Warrior" Walmalwa if this does happen...the definition of a speedy prop (well a second rower at least)!'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6700NLax5Mg
Stevo sounds like he has a sore throat and quite enthusiastic..lol
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12109 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| If this is at all feasible then we should do it. Best case scenario is that the team do really well, end up as a Superleague side by 2020 and Canadian rugby league really takes off. Worst case is that after a couple of years we find it is just not viable and they go back to the Canadian league as better players. If they are willing/able to fund it then it's surely a no brainer.
They would have to go full time though. I don't see how it would work if they all had other jobs.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 7152 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Jun 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="roopy"If you make a big group booking 12 months in advance for 10 trips (or 20 trips if you book for opposition teams as well) you will get if for half that.
If you book an extra 25 seats for supporters and sell them on for full price, you will be close to break even.'"
You wouldn't get anywhere near half the price - the reason being the vast bulk of, say, £450 is tax and other charges (fuel surcharge, apd, etc). The actual fare (the bit they are occasionally willing to discount) is about £50, maybe as high as £75. You might get a tenner off.
And remember at some point you'll be travelling over the summer period when demand is at its highest and airlines are less likely to discount for Groups business. There's a common misconception that airlines love Groups business - that's not generally true as they're only discounting a large number of seats that would probably sell at a higher fare.
Either way, accommodation and expenses (food, etc) would likely be the main cost - let's say they stay 30 nights to play 4 games, and do that 3 times a year, factor in accommodation, coach transport, food & drink, facilities hire, etc and costs start to rise.
But it's easily achievable if they can get the right sponsors and backers on board. The RFL should also approach a carrier like Air Canada Rouge who fly seasonally Toronto to Manchester. I doubt they'll offer any great rates but any saving is worthwhile, perhaps tie in some form of branding to offset any discount. Be great if it went ahead.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 2448 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Sep 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6700NLax5Mg
Stevo sounds like he has a sore throat and quite enthusiastic..lol'"
"Stevo" is actually one of the key guys behind the Canadian RL and also one of the consortium proposing to join Champ 1
He gives virtually everyone a nickname:
Geoff "Gorgeous" Bylund
Matt "The Coyote" Wyles
Henry "The Hammer" Miers (originally from Wigan I believe)
Steve "the Teknician" Piatek
to name a few. There's even a Chris Diamond (originally from St Helens) who really should be called "Shine On You Crazy"...missed opportunity there..
Well... he can't be any worse than Phil Clarke!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14970 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="mapleyther"
Well... he can't be any worse than Phil Clarke!'"
"Did you know Eddie, this team uses 3 times as much maple syrup as any other in the competition. Only time will tell if this approach will help them match the Wigan Warriors, the best team ever, ever, ever."
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Its taken the NFL decades to getting even close to having a team across the atlantic in their domestic com.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 12189 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="gutterfax"Its taken the NFL decades to getting even close to having a team across the atlantic in their domestic com.'"
yeah, but thats a cash strapped colonies league
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 20966 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2003 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2015 | Feb 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saint Simon"yeah, but thats a cash strapped colonies league'"
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 20628 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| If there are people who can make this viable and don't mind throwing money at it (lots of money), I'm for it.
If this is a publicity stunt or has a long term future similar to that of Gateshead/Paris/Crusaders...no thank you.
We need long term plans, long term goals, France need to start moving ar*e and push through a Toulouse or an Avignon that are on par with Catalans.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 6035 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2018 | Dec 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Him""Did you know Eddie, this team uses 3 times as much maple syrup as any other in the competition. Only time will tell if this approach will help them match the Wigan Warriors, the best team ever, ever, ever."'"
Lol
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 14970 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2021 | Nov 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Heard this is going ahead
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6858 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2019 | Nov 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| i though April fool stopped at 12 noon
|
|
|
|
|