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| That would be a crowd avg in 96-97that was higher than so called heartland clubs of: Souths, Wests, Balmain, Penrith, Canterbury, Illawara,Crushers and Gold Coast
and before SL BS kicked off was higher than ANY Sydney club bar Manly?
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| Quote ="eels fan"Well you just keep following them then eh?'"
watch him talking about the West Coast Eagles.
he gets moist.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"That would be a crowd avg in 96-97that was higher than so called heartland clubs of: Souths, Wests, Balmain, Penrith, Canterbury, Illawara,Crushers and Gold Coast
and before SL BS kicked off was higher than ANY Sydney club bar Manly?'"
Grasping at straws.
8k straight after the honeymoon period was unacceptable in a one-team city.
There were 11 Sydney teams in 1995 and not one of those teams was new. Illawarra, Crushers, Wests, Balmain and the GC either went kerplunk or merged. Replacing any of the remaining teams with another underperforming, but very expensive team to run, would have been stupid. Perth had to go and don't deserve a team, yet. 20 or 30 years in the future, maybe.
Perth is a waste of time at the moment. It only deserves a game a year. The only reason the Farce have had reasonable crowds is the because thousands of Saffas fled there when Mandela took over. They aren't interested in Rugby League and I doubt they ever will be.
Perth can wait until the CC, NZ (2nd side), Brisbane (2nd side), PnG, Adelaide, Mudgee, Grong Grong, Nudgee, Upper Cumbucta West and Crookwell have teams as far as I'm concerned.
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| Quote ="EA"Grasping at straws.
8k straight after the honeymoon period was unacceptable in a one-team city.
There were 11 Sydney teams in 1995 and not one of those teams was new. Illawarra, Crushers, Wests, Balmain and the GC either went kerplunk or merged. Replacing any of the remaining teams with another underperforming, but very expensive team to run, would have been stupid. Perth had to go and don't deserve a team, yet. 20 or 30 years in the future, maybe.
Perth is a waste of time at the moment. It only deserves a game a year. The only reason the Farce have had reasonable crowds is the because thousands of Saffas fled there when Mandela took over. They aren't interested in Rugby League and I doubt they ever will be.
Perth can wait until the CC, NZ (2nd side), Brisbane (2nd side), PnG, Adelaide, Mudgee, Grong Grong, Nudgee, Upper Cumbucta West and Crookwell have teams as far as I'm concerned.'"
no I'm comparing apples with apples. You might not like it but the FACT is that at the time the Reds crowds were comparable to alot of teams and better than most Sydney teams.
To suggest Perth can't support a team, with some groundwork done by the ARL/NRL first, is ignorant in the extreme. You are a typical flat capper with no idea about what our great game needs in order to take it to the No1 Winter footy code spot. Keep enjoying your NSWRL suburban football matey.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"no I'm comparing apples with apples. You might not like it but the FACT is that at the time the Reds crowds were comparable to alot of teams and better than most Sydney teams.
To suggest Perth can't support a team, with some groundwork done by the ARL/NRL first, is ignorant in the extreme. You are a typical flat capper with no idea about what our great game needs in order to take it to the No1 Winter footy code spot. Keep enjoying your NSWRL suburban football matey.'"
It's not 1983.
New teams need to hit the ground running these days, like the Titans have. Gone are the days when the competition can afford to hold a new team up until it gets popular and that rarely worked anyway.
The only new team that have been held up in recent times is Melbourne and that's only because News have put their own money into them.
Perth doesn't have a decent rectangular stadium, the travel budget will be over the top, the support just isn't there and there is no white knight prepared to bankroll Perth for 10 years of losses.
You can whine all you like but it simply isn't likely to happen. If News had wanted it, it would already have happened and I can't see the new commission putting Perth in front of areas that are Rugby League strongholds.
As for the "national" rubbish, at the moment AFL have all the advantages, they get Fox Sports 1 on Fox, they have saturation coverage all over the country whilst the NRL gets midnight or worse replays in Vic, WA and SA. Yet when it came to the crunch, the AFL came second.
The NRL has teams where the AFL will never have teams. For the AFL to match what the NRL has, it would need to put teams in Wollongong, Newcastle, NQ, New Zealand and Canberra. For the NRL to match the AFL two teams would need to be put in, one in Adelaide and one in Perth.
We don't need Adelaide and Perth. Combined they don't even make up the areas covered by the non-Sydney and Non-Brisbane Qld NRL teams.
The only chance Perth or Adelaide have in the forseeable future is if a Sydney team like the Sharks decides to relocate.
So, it looks like you'll just have to follow Union and AFL like you do now.
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| MES has been promised an upgrade
15,500 at an NRL game last year
Producing NRL first teamers already due to a strong jnr league
Opens up a whole new market for fans, viewers and sponsors
The wealthiest city in the country
One of the fastest growing populations
Full of Q'landers, NSW men and Northern Poms
Supporting a professional team in EVERY code except NRL
yep we've got no hope!
anyway I thought this thread was about NRL memberships. If you want to debate the merits of a Perth team start a new thread.
Melbourne's memberships just released. Range from $90 for a country membership to $430 for top seats. I'm going to get the interstate one at $80 to ensure I get tickets to the stadiums opening weekend.
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| JB really hasnt got a club
its funny watching him squirm though.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"MES has been promised an upgrade '"
As against areas that already have a stadium ready to go.
Quote ="JB Down Under"15,500 at an NRL game last year'"
24k went to the Reds first game.
How long did it last?
Quote ="JB Down Under"Producing NRL first teamers already due to a strong jnr league'"
It isn't enough to brag about.
Quote ="JB Down Under"Opens up a whole new market for fans, viewers and sponsors'"
It is a market we don't covet.
Quote ="JB Down Under"The wealthiest city in the country'"
Is it.
Quote ="JB Down Under"One of the fastest growing populations'"
It's not growing with Rugby League fans.
Quote ="JB Down Under"Full of Q'landers, NSW men and Northern Poms'"
Codswallop.
Perth is full of AFL fans.
Quote ="JB Down Under"Supporting a professional team in EVERY code except NRL'"
Get used to it.
Quote ="JB Down Under"yep we've got no hope!
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You don't have no hope, you have very little hope.
Quote ="JB Down Under"anyway I thought this thread was about NRL memberships. If you want to debate the merits of a Perth team start a new thread.'"
ok
How many members does the Perth NRL team have?
Quote ="JB Down Under"Melbourne's memberships just released. Range from $90 for a country membership to $430 for top seats. I'm going to get the interstate one at $80 to ensure I get tickets to the stadiums opening weekend.'"
I would rather go see a Union game anywhere north of the Murray than go to Melboune for anything.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"other teams offer the nrl stuff like juniors or on field success
cronulla offer zero.
and the roosters are s**t too.
if cronulla and easts moved to expansion areas id be very happy.
and if you had read the table properly youd see they had the lowest total last year'"
last year's sales aren't really relevant. kudos for the big increase if anything. if we'd judged clubs on such short-term basis' we would have shafted the rabbitohs a few years ago, and now they're thriving. for the record, i hate the sharks, but, fair go, as they say. I think this whole campaign is going well so far, it's such a good idea, and i think every team will crack 5000. I'm so glad these figures are being made public, so that some clubs will, if nothing else be embarrassed into pushing season tickets.
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| Quote ="langpark"last year's sales aren't really relevant. kudos for the big increase if anything. if we'd judged clubs on such short-term basis' we would have shafted the rabbitohs a few years ago, and now they're thriving. for the record, i hate the sharks, but, fair go, as they say. I think this whole campaign is going well so far, it's such a good idea, and i think every team will crack 5000. I'm so glad these figures are being made public, so that some clubs will, if nothing else be embarrassed into pushing season tickets.'"
the rabbitohs were shafted from the NRL dummy.
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| thank frick for that, I'd rather watch our SG Ball side than support a West Coast Sharks! I'm sure that massive 2,500 membership is going to solve all their financial problems.
Some of those figures are pathetic, Widnes probably have more members than 1/2 the Sydney clubs!
[size=85[iPlease note: Figures are accurate as of 7/02/2010. Figures only include Ticketed Membership numbers for the clubs which will be less than the total membership number for each club. [/i[/size
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| the Sydney based clubs have cracked last years total for them already at 43,997 compared to 42,200 total ST in 2009. also its really positive for the league that 6 clubs have passed last years totals already, strangley they are all NSW clubs
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| well done dogs and eels
i hate the dogs but they are one of sydneys strongest teams.
like souths they will be getting 30,000 or more if todd greenberg stays in charge.
if clubs can get 10,000 ST, that should set up for crowds of 20,000 or more.
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| Quote ="stew88_RL"the Sydney based clubs have cracked last years total for them already at 43,997 compared to 42,200 total ST in 2009. also its really positive for the league that 6 clubs have passed last years totals already, strangley they are all NSW clubs'"
it shows how lazy our clubs were before
RL in sydney isnt even close to saturation point, let alone queensland or elsewhere.
sydney clubs should be averaging 15,000 at the least, and it would be nice to see the best getting 30,000 or more.
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| Titans are pricing themselves out of reach, there memberships are generally $100-150 more expensive than anyone else. Surprised at Warriors, must have been a quiet off season in Auckland, Storm have only just released theirs this week.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Titans are pricing themselves out of reach, there memberships are generally $100-150 more expensive than anyone else. Surprised at Warriors, must have been a quiet off season in Auckland, Storm have only just released theirs this week.'"
the titans make profits from high ticket prices
given the small capacity of the stadium higher prices mean better revenues though pricing for sellouts each week would help.
its good to see the titans crowds are around 4 times what the soccer team gets.
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| Will be interesting to see if they can sustain 20,000+ with those prices. Looking at their current membership compared to last year I would suggest not. Last year their crowds dropped from 21,600 to 19,100 avg despite finishing higher in the league.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Will be interesting to see if they can sustain 20,000+ with those prices. Looking at their current membership compared to last year I would suggest not. Last year their crowds dropped from 21,600 to 19,100 avg despite finishing higher in the league.'"
they play st. merge, broncos and the cowboys which should generate full houses on previous form for these fixtures, the rest will be anything from 16k-23k. so they should probably just tip 20,000 me thinks
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Will be interesting to see if they can sustain 20,000+ with those prices. Looking at their current membership compared to last year I would suggest not. Last year their crowds dropped from 21,600 to 19,100 avg despite finishing higher in the league.'"
theyve always had expensive ST.
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| noticed they had membership adverts during the all-star game. hopefully boost a few clubs totals. anyone know if the clubs had stalls selling memberships at the game?
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| Compared to the UK these numbers are miniscule - just shows the different mentality ST - in UK ST is a bit of a status symbol especially in soccer - the Rhinos would trounce every side here except Brisbane
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| Gee this thread is a bit of a massacre...
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| [url=http://www.nrl.com/newsviews/latestnews/newsarticle/tabid/10874/newsid/57651/dragons--rabbitohs-still-neck-and-neck/default.aspxLatest membership figures[/url
A few clubs looking very impressive. A few disappointments though.
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| So the NRL reckon it was a tie!!!!
You're kidding right Gallop?
And to think the likes of some of the numptys on here hang off everything the NRL tell them.
Embarassing.
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