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| Quote ="Starbug"A couple of years ago we had
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NL1 some FT some PT
NL2 PT
NL3 Amatuer expansion clubs that would hopefully move up to PT in NL 2
In 2013 we will have
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Championship PT
Championship One Some PT and some amatuer
Is that simple enough for you
Is that progress to you ?'"
Are you privvy to all the CC1 business plans then?
Quote ="Starbug"Is that just on the pitch ? , or as a club , the RFL havent stated how they are going to decide who goes where yet'"
Yes they have.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Are you privvy to all the CC1 business plans then?
=#FF0000:39ifsgiwYes they have.[/
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| Quote ="Starbug"Link?'"
[url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_6528-rfl-unveil-ambitious-championship-plans.htmlHere[/url
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| Quote ="Starbug"A couple of years ago we had
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Semi pro league of 2 divisions: NL1 & 2
NL3: Top of the amateur pyramid
In 2013 we will have
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Semi pro league of 2 divisions: Championship and Championship 1 (but with more clubs)
RL Conference National: top of the amateur pyramid
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| Could be a hell of a battle for the CC1 promotion places this year as none of them will want to be cast adrift, though presumably Oldham will have to do a lot of work on their ground to satisfy the new ground criteria for the Championship if they finished top four?
I think the Euro Cup is quite an interesting idea and could become quite popular if there is a decent prize pot to ensure the clubs take it seriously. Hopefully they will announce the details ASAP so that any fans wishing to go can get it booked. Not sure how it would work though in terms of it being a league format or straight knock out, with the latter leaving very little time to plan travel and marketing for those involved?
I would expect Coventry to get one of the new places in CC1 - I went there earlier this year when they played Warrington Wizards and there was probably 3-400 on at a fiver each so it will be interesting to see how many turn up at £12 each to watch what will hopefully be a much higher standard of rugby. Certainly hope it catches on although CC1 is virtually a nationwide competition already and the RFL don't do anywhere near enough to make a big noise about that fact.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Are you privvy to all the CC1=#FF0000 business plans then?
Yes they have.'"
As I stated earlier , the vast majority of new businesses have perfectly good busines plans , most are not worth the paper they are written on , especially sports businesses
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| Quote ="rupert bear"So if my team (Doncaster) don’t get promotion next year we might as well shut up shop and die, as we will be stuck in a league of glorified amateurs with zero away support watching a lower standard of rugby than we already are. Also thanks a bunch for blowing the cost of away travel through the roof for the fans.If this was happening in SL this forum would be in meltdown by now, but it’s only CC! so it doesn’t matter. I believe this is a long term plan by the RFL to get rid of what they perceive to be the scrag end clubs in CC1. They will run it for two or three years and then announce that it doesn’t work and everyone left in this division will revert to the amateur game including the current CC1 semi pro clubs!'"
Hm. Did you bother looking at the actual RFL announcement before rushing into your rant?
Quote Promotion and relegation will continue between the two Championship divisions from 2013'"
The only year there won't be relegation (though there will be promotion) is 2012. If you're in Championship 1 in 2013 or beyond and want to move up a division, it will be via P&R.
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Could be a hell of a battle for the CC1 promotion places this year as none of them will want to be cast adrift,'" See above.
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| I would be willing to bet that all of the people who think that this is a good idea do not support clubs in CC1.
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| Quote ="tb"See above.'"
The first season will be the hardest to get the new league off the ground and if one or more of the more established CC1 sides missed out on promotion in 2012 then even the one season at that level will be VERY hard for them. At least it means some meaningful promotion for once in RL
(Thanks for picking up on one phrase from my post by the way which otherwise is uncharacteristically positive!)
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| Quote ="Wheels"[url=http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_6528-rfl-unveil-ambitious-championship-plans.htmlHere[/url'"
Nope , no mention how they will decide who goes up
" 4 clubs will be promoted "
So will that be the top 4 ? , top 3 with the rest playing to win a GF and go up ? , 4 given a Championship ' Licence ' ? , pick straws ?
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| Quote ="tb"Edited. Accuracy. etc'"
NL 3 , top of the amateur Pyramid ?
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| Quote ="rupert bear"I would be willing to bet that all of the people who think that this is a good idea do not support clubs in CC1.'"
I doubt there are many in the Championship who see it as a good thing either , even though they have sorted out our problem with regards games , they have just put more problems on the C 1 clubs
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"
(Thanks for picking up on one phrase from my post by the way which otherwise is uncharacteristically positive!)'"
Always a pleasure
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| Quote ="tb"Hm. Did you bother looking at the actual RFL announcement before rushing into your rant?
The only year there won't be relegation (though there will be promotion) is 2012. If you're in Championship 1 in 2013 or beyond and want to move up a division, it will be via P&R.
See above.'"
That’s fine as long as the club lasts long enough to do that. We will hardly be able to build a promotion winning side on the back of the crowds we will get in the proposed league.
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| Medway Dragons, Hemel, Bristol, Coventry, Northampton, Chester and Oxford.
Its a shame that Bramley had a troubled season as I would like to see them back.
As for the list above. I would ditch Chester (what league do they play in) & Medway not a high enough standard. Oxford not high enough standard.
Hemel is a yes they have playing all over for years. Cov is good if they can keep it up. Notts should be in rather than Northampton.
As for Bristol would like them to step up to RLC and see how they do for a couple of years.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not yours , no'"
So why did you ask me then?
Considering you don't believe me, you don't believe business plans, you don't believe the RFL, and the only thing you seem to believe is the Leigh club (even when they said they weren't allowed to run a youth team) why do you even post?
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So they have a stadium , excellent , anything else ? , do they currently play there ? , do they charge fans to watch there ?
If you consider that ' detail '
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So they have a stadium , excellent , anything else ? , do they currently play there ? , do they charge fans to watch there ?
If you consider that ' detail '
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| Quote ="Starbug"So they have a stadium , excellent , anything else ? , do they currently play there ? , do they charge fans to watch there ?
If you consider that ' detail '
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Ask for a look at the business plan.....no wait, you don't believe in those. Ask someone at Leigh then.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Nope , no mention how they will decide who goes up
" 4 clubs will be promoted "
So will that be the top 4 ? , top 3 with the rest playing to win a GF and go up ? , 4 given a Championship ' Licence ' ? , pick straws ?'"
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Rimmer said yesterday that it will be the Champions, both Grand Finalists, and the next highest placed team from the league standings.
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| Quote ="Starbug"So they have a stadium , excellent , anything else ? , do they currently play there ? , do they charge fans to watch there ?
If you consider that ' detail '
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| Quote ="Wheels".
Rimmer said yesterday that it will be the Champions, both Grand Finalists, and the next highest placed team from the league standings.'"
Why not 2 up and the play offs to decide the other 2 I wonder, the team finishing 2nd know they are up whatever happens but have to go through the play offs but the Champions do not.
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| Quote ="espanyolswan"Why not 2 up and the play offs to decide the other 2 I wonder, the team finishing 2nd know they are up whatever happens but have to go through the play offs but the Champions do not.'"
It's probably for the best to avoid a situation of the 4th vs 5th Grand Final and the 3rd placed side missing out on promotion.
Good to see the story on the Northampton RL site - the rest of the clubs, stake your claims please!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"It's probably for the best to avoid a situation of the 4th vs 5th Grand Final and the 3rd placed side missing out on promotion.
Good to see the story on the Northampton RL site - the rest of the clubs, stake your claims please!'"
3rd still misses out as the 2nd place side would go up if the 4th v 5th game happened to be the final if the 2nd place club was included in the play offs or not.
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| Quote ="Richie"So why did you ask me then?
Considering you don't believe me, you don't believe business plans, you don't believe the RFL, and the only thing you seem to believe is the Leigh club (even when they said they weren't allowed to run a youth team) why do you even post?'"
Who said I believed the Leigh club ?
It wasn't the Leigh club that told me about not running an academy team , It was Bill Appleton and Lee Crooks , when they visited me in my capacity as Academy director at Leigh Centurions
They work . well Lee did at that time , for the RFL , so either they made a trip down to Leigh to tell me a lie , or I am lieing ? take your pick
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