10,000 fans =somewhere between 6,000,000 and 7,500,000 a year in turn over and self sufficiency....or close to it.
Until Salford hit 10,000 fans and this is based on them wanting success on the park, Dr CashCow will be looking at somewhere between 3.5 and 5 million of personal investment per year to compete for the star players that he mistakenly believes will attract 10,000 fans. If he's looking to build forthe future, then Brian Noble seems a very strange choice of coach.....he's hardly known for his yoof set up.I believe instant gratification is what the good DR is chasing...

The same FORMULA of fans = turnover = money to attract decent players long term applies for all the other socalled medium/small clubs in SL btw

What I find offensive is the snooty arrogance of some supporters of the 'big' clubs who take every opportunity to snipe at and belittle the efforts of clubs which are struggling,
Its particularly hypocritical coming from a Bulls fan who felt the need to 'make his point' with at least half a dozen negative postings but who then fell silent when his probationary side got a towelling.

How many times are you going to make the same point?
Oh, and your amazing wordplay to make "CashCow" out of "Koukash" has me in stitches every time! Brilliant!
Don't worry about us Glitter, we'll be fine.

He'll get bored and leave them deep in the s**t in no time.

I'm fairly sure we will have a club this time next year. Will you?

Trust me Hull KR will be around a hell of a long time after the Dr's bailing leads to Salford's demise.



Rovers are built on heritage and pride in the local area. You can't manufacture a club like he probably thinks you can. No support, no local meaning, no heritage - money can't buy any of that (or class).

I give it a year.

Is this what having money in Super League entails? Putting up with bellendery like this?

Almost every day for the past week I've seen some snidey comment from a fan of another team about us. Pretty pathetic really.

Last seasons game being moved was total farce and absolutely unnecessary and it must have cost your club a few quid to move the fixture.
With the 2 games (Catalan/Bradford and Salford/Wakefield) not being synchronised, the RFL should have just left the original fixtures and venues as they were.
However, this still didn't excuse the home fans not turning up for the last game of the season and the missing the opportunity to bid farewell to the players and staff that were leaving etc.
The apathy among the Salford "faithful" still remains.
Although the situations are similar, the reaction of the Bulls fans last season, compared to your own couldn't be more stark.
They backed their club in great number and yet nobody over there seems bothered.

No heritage? Salford was founded nine years before your Club existed in 1873. The Dr's not manufacturing anything, he's saving a Club from extinction with the aim of making it a decent Club. Your team is 'Built on Pride'? of what? It took you 8 years to beat Hull A.

I am not worried about you pal...just happy to point out the exact logistics of what some of your, sahall we say, more eager fans think will happen with the good Dr's money.

By the way, have I told you about the 10,000 break even figure and the associated revenues that will flow in once you get 130,000 people paying 15 notes on a ticket and another 15 on residuals?......

.......he won't have to spend between 3 and 5 million out of his back pocket.

To put it another way, what came first, the Chicken(silverware) or the egg(decent average support)?

Answers on a post card to Dr CashCow

Oh the irony. This thread now has 3 times the number of viewers that actually attended the game.

Salford will always struggle for supporters. The spherical ball game is too strong in the area.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't at least try but there has to come a point when small crowds become an embarressment to the top flight of our great game. Oh hang on, London anyone?

Three words to everyone who's posted on this thread . . . smoke some weed.



Fans of other vulnerable clubs or those miffed at their team not being in Superleague attack Salford and their attendances and Salford fans defending their club. How predictable

Woah, where have these Hull KR fans suddenly grown a pair from? Fans of a club with an embarrassing ground, embarrassing finances and an embarrassing amount of overseas players in their squad are not ones who should be taking the mick out of another club.

I support a team with no finances, no fans, no ground and a history of employing a major number of imports.....I still say Salfords new owner will need to drop between 25 and 35 million of his own cash to even get close to the top 4or 5 teams in SL.

I notice that whilst all this love is flying around on here, most Salford fans would rather call other posters "haters" rather than accept or address the facts of the matter...which are that they got a lower crowd than London at the weekend, they have an owner who mistakenly believes signing a star player will get him 10,000 regulars and that they have 1 year (until about this time next year) to turn around their fortunes......if they wait until 2014 before addressing the decline in fans, then they may well be in for a shock when the 2015+ licences are announced.

If the RFL double the salary cap, does the good Dr believe signing Morely and billy slater will fill the stadium

You have no idea what he thinks and what he's planning to do with the club, other than some press sound bites, which is why you're sat behind the keyboard and he's running the club. We're less than six months into new ownership. Why are people going on about how it isn't working or isn't going to work already?

Also, there's a difference between posting something constructive and throwing out pathetic insults which we've seen on here. However you dress it up, some people are quite obviously hoping that Salford will fail.

If bidding for big name players like "Morely" (is that another one of your hilarious nicknames?) was all the club was doing, then you might have a point. But it isn't. They are conducting a "root and branch" reform of the club with pretty much [ieverything[/i up for review, including pricing, kick off times, marketing, the lot. There are a few details [url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/live-thursday-salford-reds-webchat-3000158here[/url in an on-line Q&A session with Ed Farish, the new CEO. Part of the strategy is to build a better team so they have something to market. Other parts - the parts you haven't been banging on about - include buying the stadium so the club have something that can generate income.

In the meantime, yes we got a low crowd at the weekend, and yes some of our fans are a bit over-excited at the moment and like to come on here and spatter their excitement all over the place, but it's only a handful. I tend to cringe when I see certain posters on here. Most of us are more realistic. In the short term, I - and I suspect [iall[/i Salford fans - have accepted that our crowds are low (I mean, it's not like you can miss it, is it?) so how would you like us to "address" it? Longer term, the club are in a better position to take off than they have been in decades.

Whether the club [idoes[/i take off remains to be seen, but it won't be for want of trying. And it won't just come from signing big name players, which is why the strategy is broader than that.

and it is these few that generate the levelof response you have in this thread.

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Can't fault his enthusiasm.

I think next season will be very interesting - MK with his inevitable season ticket promotions and a chance for BN to build a squad. They may have a chance to be competitive....

But until then, I don't want to hear another line about how 'immeasurably big' Salford could be or how they have the 'potential' to be the biggest club in the world.

Maybe, but threads about Salford's attendances go right back to the days when the club didn't have a micturition receptacle. The level of pointless vitriol may be a bit higher, but the whining has always been there.

If the over excited fans bother you, is ignoring them an option? Works for me.

OK. We'll get on to it straight away. Could we also have a block on lines about how immeasurably small the club are right now?

The problem though (as Bradford found) is you can't bribe people with free tickets forever. Once it reaches the stage where you have to start charging them they'll drift away again, e.g. Bullmania was supposedly back last season as the 10,000 crowds returned. Now those gates are back to 7500, presumably because they've stopped the four-quid-a-game farce which the fifty quid passes equated to.
This guy will soon realise his mistake (eg Salford do not even really have the potential to be a worthy SL club, never mind a big one) he'll be on to his next project (hopefully).

You do try to give the appearance of being an expert on clubs outside of Hull,while it is your own club which has the most immediate need of assistance.Both clubs,Bradford and Salford,appear to have a future beyond 2013.
I don't understand your use of the word 'mistake'.The situation has not deteriorated since he purchased the club in January and even though he has not had time to place his feet under the table there are early signs of improvements.
The fact that Dr Koukash is willing to 'get his hands dirty' and publicise the sport to those youngsters overwhelmed by the publicity given to the round ball game should be warmly applauded but you serve notice of your mindset by wishing him away from rugby league and onto 'his next project'.
I am pleased to see that you do appear to be just a 'one-off' from the core HULL KR following,who,in the main,are intelligent and passionate about the sport of rugby league.

Neil Hudgell or Dr Koukash ? who are we talking about ?

Salford V Cas Attendance 15 pages
14 Players on field for Salford should they be fined ....5 pages

I get a sense the Salford backlash is in full swing then ....