Sorry missed that just to clarify there were three of them from the mail working on this from Thursday afternoon onwards it was just Matt Shaw that got it verified and so wrote the story, however that doesn't necessarily mean he sourced it in the first place, but as long as fans we continue to get the inside track in that way that's all that matters.

Can't listen to anything that Rovers cheerleading prat has to say.

Good that you’re going to give Myler a chance . We have no choice. remember Pearson has put loads of money into the club. As regards ambition well that’s dictated a lot by money. Pearson has s sought investment and he has incentive to be ambitious so I would disagree with you there. There has been a lot wrong with the club and I think sacking TS was not sourcing the problem but possibly axing the solver. It will take a long time and we have to be better fans though our negativity has been justified. We won’t beat Saints but having a dig would satisfy me

Realistically I don’t think we’ll win any of our next three games v Sts, Leeds and Warrington. We need to be patient.

Firstly, we need to choose the right Coach and get them in place over the next 2 weeks.

We need 3-4 players now to bolster our weak squad. Short term deals if necessary. We have to replace Hoy, Brown plus need 2 others. Ideally a half, centre and 2 forwards.

We need to stem the flow of big defeats. May provides an opportunity to beat London and Castleford. With Trueman, Walker and Fash returning and hopefully the new above additions, then we can hopefully be more competitive in games for the rest of the season and demonstrate a change some green shoots of improvement to the fans.

Concurrently we need to re-build for next season. The recruitment really needs to be spot on. There’s scope to make good changes this close season and add more quality for 2025. I expect most of the current squad won’t be here in 2026, we should be aiming to improve in all positions.

I expect things to get worse on the pitch before they get better. May looks better for us fixture wise and hopefully some more changes can be made to allow us to start improving for the rest of the season.

Would say that's a fair summary. This season for me is as good as done and over for us but that said we use the rest of this season to get the right people in all other things in place ready for the start of pre season 2025.

Theres a huge amount of work to be done on and off the field and most fans will accept we aren't going to be ripping up trees as long as changes are being seen to be made and we can see the affects and improvements from where we are now.
Unfortunately despite Smiths experience & track record there has been little, if any evidence of at all of the changes and structures that needed putting in during his tenure regardless of budgets and talent in the squad.

Roughly how much money has Pearson put INTO the club?
Just out of interest.

why?
he is at a top club who are really looking good this year

He was “at a top club” last season they was looking even better than this stage last season and look what happened.He may fancy a crack at head coach again but he got found out bit at Salford….like I said,not my choice personally.

Career aspirations?

I think what we have seen recently with Tony Smith proves that it's not necessarily about who is in charge but the resources at their disposal. For years a lot of FC fans were crying out for an experienced coach to come in instead of assistants. We got that in Smith and it hasn't worked. But can we honestly say that Smith has had full resources? Cap spend has been questionable because whether we are spending full cap or not, it certainly hasn't been value for money. Meanwhile our backroom staff has been depleted and we're waiting on these new training facilities to be completed.

So I don't think it matters about someone's track record as such. What is important is that whoever they identify to take us forward gets everything they need from the club put at their disposal to achieve their goals. I'm liking what has been said since last week by both Pearson and now Myler suggesting that will be the case.

thats why Warrington is a much better option than we are

I dont think it was all about resources.
Smith failed miserably as a coach
Failed to get the squad supremely fit to help make up for the lack of quality on the field
Failed to implement a defensive strategy to make us difficult to beat knowing we dont have the strike to score many tries
Failed to clamp down on the on field indicipline which was bad in his first season but even worse this season.
I agree we didnt have enough quality players in the squad but he was the one who continued to play two nines in the halfs when we all could see it wasnt working,and continually flogging Houghton for near 80 minutues knowing he had a hamstring problem as though Houghton was the answer to our prayers and would turn our season around.
I cant see Grix been our future coach but even he cannot do any worse than Smith

They only cover us for the 1st 15 minutes or so. Shaw was much better and more balanced. Must've had an off day on the other podcast they ran when Smith got the boot

It's impossible to say from abbreviated accounts but there is £2.8m of other borrowings in the accounts from 2022, a big chunk of which will likely be loans from pearson.

As an aside, I see lots of comments about pearson taking a salary from the club but seems unlikely to me if he has loans in there. Far more likely he gets payments on these loans or he'd be paying a huge amount of tax on a salary

I obviously can’t answer that. My post was to counter criticism of Pearson who clearly loves the club but like everyone makes mistakes. He is entitled to make decisions that save money whilst balancing that with improving all aspects of the club. It’s not easy. Don’t get criticism of TS & AP - almost disrespect in some posts. I suspect without AP we may have gone under .

Having had a few days to digest the news of the sacking of Tony Smith and the appointment of Richie Myler as DOR.
My conclusion is, this 'appointment ' can only be an improvement. The reason, I state an improvement, is because since Motu left, recruitment, retention and hiring of backroom staff, has been underwhelming to say the least . I hope Myler has already spoken to Brett Hodgson and or Tony Smith on the dynamics of the club
Unfortunately, the club is in a no win situation, the rejection of this offer, would mean no investment, no marquee players, and pass sales and merchandise would be significantly reduced.
Pearson stated 4 months ago, the covid loans would be repaid, in the first half of 2024, this is now changed , he stated last week,some of the loans will be paid at the end of the year..
The culture phrase, in my opinion, is a smokescreen, the reason for the poor performances, I feel this is a lack of ambition from the owner, due to a lack of financial resources. The lack of quality of backroom staff employed, the facilities, all presents an attitude of amateurism. This apathy has filtered throughout the whole club, Personally I feel the squad are not adequately physically prepared for Super League., the blame can also be apportioned to Tony Smith, with his attitude of "overcooked", in truth the squad were barely cooked at all.

be interesting to see who is selected as Head Coach..

Fair points. I will say that I have said in the past that Smith wasn't blameless so I wasn't trying to exonerate him with my comments, more pointing out that he wasn't entirely to blame either.

Of all three of the potential investors we are talking to , Are we just looking at accepting the one linked with Myler or possibly all three ?

Personally I think it's too much of a coincidence that we've appointed Myler to not be accepting that investment. Beyond that I have no idea. I think Pearson said that the offers were all different levels of investment so I guess there's potential to accept more than one offer.

Investment aside, I wish people would give Myler a chance to prove he got the job on merit.
I'm just finding some of the negativity surrounding his appointment to be disrespectful.
Let's give the guy a chance first before people tear into his appointment or only think he got the job due to someone else's money.

FWIW, I'm fully behind him and wishing him the best of luck. I've been advocating both on here and on social media that he deserves a chance and our support. The investment angle is pure speculation on my part based off the link with Thirkill. But even if I am right in my suspicion, Thirkill won't have gotten were he is today by simply giving jobs out to those close to him so regardless of whether it is a coincidence or linked to the investment, Myler will have been given the role because they believe he's got the qualities needed.

From John Davidson

[iBroken birds
The Richie Myler as director of rugby appointment at Hull FC is totally bizarre. Myler only retired from York this week and has zero experience or qualifications. One of his former teammates told us this: "It's another poor decision by Hull FC. They should be a top four club making top four club decisions. There is a reason why successful business/ sports organisations ask for experience before employing people within these roles. Some big decisions need to be made at that club and the director of rugby needs to own and be front and centre of every single one of them. Unless someone does the dirty work for him I can’t see it happening." The rumour mill says that it is not Andrew Thirkill, father of Stephanie Thirkill, Myler's partner who will be investing in Hull FC in the future, but Stephanie herself. Andrew Thirkill is worth more than £170 million and is also the president of Leeds Rhinos. Leeds sources suggest their president won't be involved directly with the Airlie Birds.[/i

Pretty much marries up with what I was told earlier on in the week. Dan Tomlinson also specifically mentioned Stephanie Thirkill and her roles in her fathers businesses, which I thought was interesting at the time.

Either way we're in the money

I'm open minded on the D.O.R/Myler situation, ok yes he lacks experience in the role, but will certainly have important contacts within the game and he'll know how the game works both on and off the field in terms of players/agents etc. We've had two very experienced people in McRae & Smith at the club and failed dismally in player recruitment/retention and its notable our most successful spell in SL era came under the inexperienced Motu Tony who didn't do too shabbily.
It's also not just about contacts within the game that's important these days but also in the wider world of business, which Myler has access too.

It may or may not work but as we have seen at Hull FC there are simply no guarantees whichever road we travel but its clear something needed doing in terms of radical change and we are seeing that, time will tell if it works or not but do feel looking at things as a whole we are already in a much better position.

I have it on good authority that Myler was not first choice as Director of Rugby. A present incumbent currently a DOR at another Super League club was approached but declined FC's offer.