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It's chipped wood. Take a look at today's posts. Couple of players are shown scratching at the cracks. People jumping to conclusions. If they were to do lines it wouldn't be in the changing rooms in front of the coaches. Jeeeeez.
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It's chipped wood. Take a look at today's posts. Couple of players are shown scratching at the cracks. People jumping to conclusions. If they were to do lines it wouldn't be in the changing rooms in front of the coaches. Jeeeeez.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"It's chipped wood. Take a look at today's posts. Couple of players are shown scratching at the cracks. People jumping to conclusions. If they were to do lines it wouldn't be in the changing rooms in front of the coaches. Jeeeeez.'"
Nah it's obviously cocaine, I've written a GUI in visual basic which allows you to take a sample from that photo and in real time give you the results. 100% cocaine nothing else straight from Pablo's old personal stash he forgot about.
[size=85[iAnyone who thinks it's something else other than a scratch in the wood are clueless.[/i[/size
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| Quote ="invmatt"Nah it's obviously cocaine, I've written a GUI in visual basic which allows you to take a sample from that photo and in real time give you the results. 100% cocaine nothing else straight from Pablo's old personal stash he forgot about.
[size=85[iAnyone who thinks it's something else other than a scratch in the wood are clueless.[/i[/size'"
Surely no one can seriously think it is can they and they're just on the wind up? I know RL players have a reputation as big daft lads but they aren't that bloody daft to do it in the dressing rooms with all the coaches around and management too.
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How is it fake news? It's just click bait garbage.
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How is it fake news? It's just click bait garbage.
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| Quote ="Fully"Quite frankly, I don't give a flying frig what any opposition fans think.
It ranks of bitterness. I'm immensely proud of what my side have achieved this season, it's more than most expected, and we've done it a convincing, satisfying and comprehensive style. I'd love to go on and win the Grand Final just to ram it down people's throats but in reality, even if we go on to win absolute naff all after this, I'll still be proud of it.
It means a lot to us fans when we nearly lost our club and I'm pretty sure fans of Salford, Wakefield would also revel in winning the League Leaders' Shield too and finishing top of the pile. When you've seen the dark days, you enjoy the glory days even more.
Over the years we've been treated as little Cas, always treated with contempt and as a 'team we should be beating'. Not anymore. It's about time we got some payback and I'm glad we have. Fans of the big clubs don't like other clubs roughing up the norm now and that for me is the most satisfying part.
When fans of clubs like Hull, Wigan and Leeds have seen your club get relegated, really, really struggle and fear for the future - when you've walked through the days of admin like fans of smaller clubs - only then come back and tell us why we shouldn't be euphoric about what our teams have achieved.
No one remembers the LLS. Well I remember Huddersfield won it, clearly other people do, I'm sure our fans will remember it. It means more to us and we're going to celebrate this achievement.'"
No one's saying don't enjoy it. Just don't expect adulation from everyone else because no one cares.
Your examples are terrible BTW. Hull were relegated (or demoted or whatever the f%ck happened when the league split in 95) Wigan nearly in 2006, leeds in 96 and to a lesser extent last year.
Cocky classy cas, when will they learn?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Classy Cas !
Most entertaining & positively ambitious team I have seen since St Helens hey day.
Thoroughly deserve to be called/viewed as best team in Super League regardless of any Grand Final !
Never ever bought into this G.F Winners are best team $#!T€, 1st over a full season are rightfully CHAMPIONS in my view & about time that RL returned to rewarding it as such with the best tropy & financial rewards.
Cas, Champions in my book.'"
There's 1 tiny problem. Finishing top can't be viewed as being real champions because winning the grand final is what makes you champions. That's the rules that everyone enters into the season under. It's a mute point, a different argument. If your argument is " I think finishing top should make you champions" have at it. But the argument of "cas are real champions because they finished top" is irrelevant because no one entered into the season under the assumption finishing top qualified you as champions.
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| Fantastic achievement. Not just winning the shield, but doing it at an absolute stroll playing exciting rugby league.
Clear favourites for the grand final for me.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"No one's saying don't enjoy it. Just don't expect adulation from everyone else because no one cares.
Your examples are terrible BTW. Hull were relegated (or demoted or whatever the f%ck happened when the league split in 95) Wigan nearly in 2006, leeds in 96 and to a lesser extent last year.
Cocky classy cas, when will they learn?'"
Oh no some sad w@nker on a forum says we shouldn't expect adulation for winning the league. I think we should give the league leaders shield back and turn down and accolades.... little old cas should know our place.
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Oh no some sad w@nker on a forum says we shouldn't expect adulation for winning the league. I think we should give the league leaders shield back and turn down and accolades.... little old cas should know our place.'"
What a pathetic response.
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| If you come top of league in any sport it is a great achievement and can't be done by chance and shows you/they have been the best over that season.Im very much in the camp of it being a major deal but also accept the grand final winners are who will be remembered.Cant see Castleford slipping up and I hope they lift the trophy at Old Trafford
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| Still hardly anyone has congratulated Cas without the word 'but' following or something to demean their achievement after 14 pages of waffle.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Still hardly anyone has congratulated Cas without the word 'but' following or something to demean their achievement after 14 pages of waffle.'"
Compared to previous seasons where we've had pages and pages of Cas fans congratulating LLS winners?
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| Well I for one congratulate our local rivals on a great achievement.
It's a big deal. Celebrate as much as you like......who cares what a small minority of fans from some big clubs that got used to keeping the silverware for themselves think.
Assuming Wakefield don't get to the GF, I hope Cas win it. It's a victory for the little clubs.
I have to say, is it any wonder that we get poor media coverage and poor perception outside our game when a team that have gone against the odds and won the league is criticised for celebrating and more so told that the trophy is just a hub cap and it means nothing. Why would anyone try to publicise our game when we think it's nothing. Beggars belief.
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| I suppose we should do a Leeds instead and cry and celebrate over knocking a stand down to rebuild one in the exact same place. Nobody's talking about that!!
Before anyone says "it's because they have so much history there"
Yeh they do.... At Headingley, not in the bloody south stand.
That seems to be fine. But we ain't allowed to celebrate winning the LLS. Some of you fans putting it down are a joke. Simple.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"I suppose we should do a Leeds instead and cry and celebrate over knocking a stand down to rebuild one in the exact same place. Nobody's talking about that!!
Before anyone says "it's because they have so much history there"
Yeh they do.... At Headingley, not in the bloody south stand.
That seems to be fine. But we ain't allowed to celebrate winning the LLS. Some of you fans putting it down are a joke. Simple.'"
CALM DOWN CALM DOWN I think it is bloody great I wish it was my team we would be dancing in the street
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| I don't really get all th bickering over this. From a Castleford point of view it is certainly a great achievement and worth a bottle or two of fizz. I don't mean any disrespect by this but clubs such as Wigan, Leeds and St Helens have a been there done that attitude and are only really interested in what is (whether you agree it should be or not) the big prize.
In short, well done Cas, and if my team don't make the top 4 I hope there's a new name on the Trophey whoever it may be.
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| Congratulations Cas, it is a great achievement that will long be celebrated by your fans. Winning the LLS is, without doubt, the sign of the most consistent and best team in the comp. If only there was some way of it comming after the Grand Final and it would be treated with the respect that it deserves.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"I suppose we should do a Leeds instead and cry and celebrate over knocking a stand down to rebuild one in the exact same place. Nobody's talking about that!!
Before anyone says "it's because they have so much history there"
Yeh they do.... At Headingley, not in the bloody south stand.
That seems to be fine. But we ain't allowed to celebrate winning the LLS. Some of you fans putting it down are a joke. Simple.'"
You're losing the plot.
This needy attitude where you're craving adulation from other sets of fans is a bit pathetic. Just celebrate it & enjoy it, don't worry about what praise you do & don't get from other fans.
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| Not read the last 15 pages, and I'm not going to, but looking back at the last couple of pages - who cares?
Fantastic achievement by Cas this year, to be as consistent as they have been all year and guaranteeing themselves the LLS with games to spare - well done them! Lets just hope they carry on that through the rest of the playoffs, get to the GF and win it, proving that consistency does really pay off!
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"No one's saying don't enjoy it. Just don't expect adulation from everyone else because no one cares.'"
We don't. But we don't like people being petty and throwing out excuses such as 'it's because everyone else is bad' or 'the standard is dropping', or telling us 'it's not important', 'no one remembers the LLS winners' or 'that it is meaningless'. Just because your own sides have gone backwards shouldn't lessen the achievement, particularly when opposition fans have taken great pleasure over the years of telling us we have bang average players who no one else wants, or who is 'good but he's no X....'.
Quote Hull were relegated (or demoted or whatever the f%ck happened when the league split in 95) '"
They finished in the bottom half and so formed part of the 2nd division along with 3/4 other clubs in the restructure. In a time the game wasn't full-time. They haven't lost half their team as a result or had to risk everything to get back into SL, where the money is. Of those teams in the 2nd division, 4 of them are now in Super League. Though they did have financial difficulties, the merger saved them and in fact even could be argued was the catalyst for the club today.
So yeah, maybe, but I don't think the impact would be half as big as it is now. I've only thrown Hull in because they've really turned against us this season for whatever reason, and that's sad. However, they've spent megabucks over the past decade on average Aussies and got nowhere. Their angst towards us seems to be on the fact that the media have waxed lyrical about our style of play and they're upset they haven't got credit for knocking us out of a one-off cup tie. It's bizarre.
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Wigan nearly in 2006,'"
Nearly. Not did. They didn't struggle or sell off their own players. Instead that flagrantly broke the salary cap in order to stay up.
Quote leeds in 96 and to a lesser extent last year.'"
Again. Didn't and didn't.
Quote Your examples are terrible BTW. '"
So terrible your responses are 'nearly', 'nearly' and...erm, 'nearly'.
Quote Cocky classy cas, when will they learn?'"
Where are we cocky? No one ever started this season out expecting us to win the LLS. We've enjoyed this season and we're proud of our achievement. The only people cocky are the ones knocking us, who believe they have a divine right to be at the top and anyone else who does get near the top is down to others being bad, not the side being good.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I have to say, is it any wonder that we get poor media coverage and poor perception outside our game when a team that have gone against the odds and won the league is criticised for celebrating and more so told that the trophy is just a hub cap and it means nothing. Why would anyone try to publicise our game when we think it's nothing. Beggars belief.'"
Exactly this. Many questions are asked about why the game isn't bigger than it is or why it isn't promoted as much as it should be. The simple answer is we don't deserve it.
For me the Grand Final has never felt like anything but a gimmick and the 'champions' tag is a tad cringeworthy. Sure I'd celebrate if my team won it but I'd much rather see them lift the Challenge Cup at Wembley. As for the league leaders shield, it gets nowhere near the respect it deserves.
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| The GF is a gimmick at the end of the day, to try and make something different for the sport, and stand out compared to others (i.e. football).
Problem we've had over the last few years is that the teams finishing top in the league and winning the LLS haven't always gone on to win the GF, which is why fans from the rest of the teams are never overly concerned about finishing top because it doesn't matter as long as they win the GF - and why other teams fans will always put winning the LLS down to fans of the team that does win it.
I do agree however, that something more could/should be made of it, but just like the NRL or NFL, doesn't matter how you do through the weekly rounds, the focus is all on that one big final!
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| Quote ="cas all the way"I suppose we should do a Leeds instead and cry and celebrate over knocking a stand down to rebuild one in the exact same place. Nobody's talking about that!!
Before anyone says "it's because they have so much history there"
Yeh they do.... At Headingley, not in the bloody south stand.
That seems to be fine. But we ain't allowed to celebrate winning the LLS. Some of you fans putting it down are a joke. Simple.'"
You can and should celebrate it but they way some are going on about it you'd think we should just cancel the GF and give Cas the main trophy now.
All this Cas will be the true champions even if they don't win the GF BS, we all know that if roles were reversed and you won from 2nd-4th plenty of points behind you wouldn't be calling the LLS the champions.
The LLS is a good achievement but it doesn't become a greater achievement this year just because of who won it and how.
As for Leeds yes they had an occasion LAST WEEK for the South Stand. This giving Cas credit and making out the LLS is the bigger prize nonsense has been going all most of the season as soon as Cas opened up a gap at the top.
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| There wouldnt be all this wailing and gnashing of teeth, if Cas fans hadn't abanonded their own board in favour of the echo chamber forum they created for themselves; since they've found success and come out from hiding, the only place to get any reaction is on here, which naturally invites comment from fans of other clubs, who don't seem to be showing the required amount of adulation - and that's upsetting some Cas folk.
Personally, I think the LLS is a great achievement for them - given where they've come from; it may well mean less to clubs who have higher expectations, but it's all relative I guess. If they go on to win the GF, then they can demand some eating of words - but expecting supporters of other clubs to celebrate this with the same vigour as them is tilting at windmills; it's not what happens, especially on the VT, where snark is the main currency.
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