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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"On an on-going basis then it isnt going to work. For many reasons. Not just limited to Toronto.
A transatlantic league at semi-pro level (and lets be honest some L1 clubs are barely meeting that level) just isnt sustainable. Nor is a league where attendances are ranging from barely the low hundreds to 7k.
No reason why our top flight can't be a worldwide competition.'" OUR, then it's not is it ?
No thanks expansion lover, other cities can start their own 'world league' if they want, and then see how it goes... ! 
Who do you support, hinting 7K is low? You can only be a fan of maybe 8 clubs who average more than that. So Genius, what should 'established' SL clubs do to boost crowds that might get close to what you think is acceptable. I know, let's replace 20+ English clubs (gradually though) with Cities from planet earth, who WILL bring more to our, I mean the game than current clubs do.  |
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I like the idea. Hope it works. Just like that old adage about coaches listening to crowds ending up being one of them, the same holds true to paying too much attention to the weakest sides in the sport.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"OUR, then it's not is it ?
No thanks expansion lover, other cities can start their own 'world league' if they want, and then see how it goes... !
Who do you support, hinting 7K is low? You can only be a fan of maybe 8 clubs who average more than that. So Genius, what should 'established' SL clubs do to boost crowds that might get close to what you think is acceptable. I know, let's replace 20+ English clubs (gradually though) with Cities from planet earth, who WILL bring more to our, I mean the game than current clubs do.
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An increase in funding through worldwide sponsors exposed to more audiences as well as increased television coverage and rights as internationals become more interesting and competitive. More exposure in the media advertises our clubs to larger audiences, which would increase interest and crowds.
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Shrink the game to just Yorkshire and Lancashire (and a bit of Cumbria), get a reduced TV deal because bit many are interested, get stuffed internationally, lose our best players continually to other leagues or sports, go part time, reduced funding and exposure and thus smaller crowds.
You're looking at how much of the pie you can share.
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Now its on for next year has a taster for next year get the owner to get to super league teams to go at the end of the season to play a game for all the fans to show what might happen if they are good enough to get to super league and good publicity for the game
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"Ok my take on this is...firstly i would imagine logistics have already been discussed between TWP and the RFL, the have seen it can be done so they did it.
This from what i can gather is being financed by a rich Canadian in charge of the club.
All air fares, hotels and transport covered by them, so costing the RFL the sum total of sod all.
You tell me any one of you, right this second that if i gave you a bit of notice that you wouldn't take a free ticket off me, all expenses paid to spend 3 or 4 days in Toronto? Easy sell for the players with maximum potential of 2 games a season in Canada at that level.
People arguing it weakens Canada's RL because we'll be taking a side out of the equation? No if anything it gives players in other teams something to strive for and play in a more established league.
Small clubs some with no money and some with insular fans some both, arguing it could stop them from getting in SL? So what, especially Leigh, you had a chance last season and it was obvious you wasn't ready. If they overtake you and take 'your' place in SL so be it. The clubs with no money moaning, can gfts. Sick of clubs with not enough £ having too much of an influence.
To the fans that say it is too far or too much....simple, don't go, listen on the radio or you could be lucky and it be in tv, it is not your right to go to games no matter how much you want to. I missed Widnes last week and will miss Wigan tonight and gutted on both scores, it is what it is.Â
To those that say it will fail...it may well do but it is at zero risk to the rfl and all the costs are coming from Canada, so what is your issue?
"But we should invest in Cumbria" why should we, why?
It's just hills and floods and occasional towns spread out over miles, Barrow is a toilet, Workington and Whitehaven not much better all spread out over miles, Penrith stinks (no seriously it does) and has a small following and the biggest place in Cumbria isn't really interested in RL.
Then we have clubs like Oldham, Rochdale and Swinton who should be growing the Manchester game, all dying on their backsides.
Liverpool isn't interested, Lancashire has no professional clubs anymore (no I'm not getting into a debate about sodding old Lancashire)
Newcastle have a passing interest, counties next to the 'heartlands' like Derbyshire, Staffordshire, Lincolnshire even to a large extent 'South Yorkshire' couldn't give a monkeys about RL, we have paid lip service to it in London, Wales and the Midlands.
So why the fk not Canada? We live in a modern age, the pits have closed (not getting into a Tory/Thatcher argument either) times have changed, when the Whippet passes away then buy a labradoodle, put the donkey jacket in the clothes bin, wear baseball cap or a flat cap that isn't tweed, possibly buy a kangol and get with the modern world.'"
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"OUR, then it's not is it ?
No thanks expansion lover, other cities can start their own 'world league' if they want, and then see how it goes... !
Who do you support, hinting 7K is low? You can only be a fan of maybe 8 clubs who average more than that. So Genius, what should 'established' SL clubs do to boost crowds that might get close to what you think is acceptable. I know, let's replace 20+ English clubs (gradually though) with Cities from planet earth, who WILL bring more to our, I mean the game than current clubs do.
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You and your small town clubs with small time thinking and small time ways can have your league. You are welcome to it.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"You're looking at how much of the pie you can share.
Others are looking at how big we can make the pie. '"
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Hope it works out for them , Really pleased they've got the gig .
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decent write up today in the daily mirror (irrc was 7am when i read the story) regarding the wolfpack
paul rowley to throw the opening pitch at the toronto blue jays match on tuesday and the team is owned by a multi millionaire mining guy from Australia, money not a problem, hence travel and accomodation paid for the english clubs
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Let's hope he's a Davy/Moran rather than a Koukash.
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| Quote ="Lovesauce"Say's the enemy within. Who needs union to stifle our sport when some so called RL fans are more enthusiastic about keeping the game within it's small town northern heartlands.'"
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