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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Why didn't you quote his whole post? You know, the part that then highlighted he meant it was the best in terms of on-field action?
Has the faux Frenchman agitated you so much that you've become desperate to the extent that you have to edit his posts in such a way to try get a shot in?'"
Because he's the internet equivalent of toe jam.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"....Alas, whilst I sympathise with your opinion, the facts regarding attendance and viewers are very relevant to the it being the best tournament ever. Until we can bank 100 million for hosting rights alone, we really should steer clear of "my dads bigger than yours" comparisons, because invariably, he isn't!
OK.....I'll bite and god knows I should really know better by now.
144,722 people showed up to watch 7 games of International RL featuring teams from Samoa, New Zealand, England and Australia.
164,223 have watched England's last 2 games at Twickenham , which will have delivered in excess of £10,000,000 in ticketing revenue alone to the RFU.
Your claim about the "best tournament ever" holds no water because regardless of the undoubted quality of the games on offer, the RLIF could find a cure for EBOLA and still not make a fraction of the revenue that the other code does.
25,000 at the Final that you are now heralding....yet you wanted 40k or you'd be disappointed a few days back.'"
1 person could've turned up to each game and it would still have been the best tournament yet for that 1 lucky person and for us watching on TV.
Quit your obsession with crowd figures / tv viewing figures, put your calculator away and try actually watching the f****** games for once you absolute f****** gomper.
Night night.
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| Quote ="loiner81"1 person could've turned up to each game and it would still have been the best tournament yet for that 1 lucky person and for us watching on TV.
Quit your obsession with crowd figures / tv viewing figures, put your calculator away and try actually watching the f****** games for once you absolute f****** gomper.
Night night.'"
Bless. Come SOO you'll have a hard on for attendances and tv..
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Bless. Come SOO you'll have a hard on for attendances and tv..'"
In the UK we not obsessed with TV ratings unlike you and the likes of Dally Messenger. Compared to the AFL the attendances for the NRL are pretty pathetic. Compared to soccer here the attendances in the NRL are equally pathetic. I doubt anyone here will be stroking themselves over 50k at Lang Park - only you!!
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| Quote ="gutterfax".
164,223 have watched England's last 2 games at Twickenham , which will have delivered in excess of £10,000,000 in ticketing revenue alone to the RFU.
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Yeah!
They all had a great BBQ, shook hands on a few deals with contacts made in the hospitality tent, a few of them bought a new Range Rover and some reunited with buddies from their Boarding School days.
One or two watched the very poor Rugby Union games that were also taking place.
Rugby Union is a well run business but a Crap sport!
Back to the Rugby League . .
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| Quote ="The Avenger"
They all had a great BBQ, shook hands on a few deals with contacts made in the hospitality tent, a few of them bought a new Range Rover and some reunited with buddies from their Boarding School days.
One or two watched the very poor Rugby Union games that were also taking place.'"
Did they shout homophobic & racist abuse at the referee again as well?
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| Quote ="tigertot"Did they shout homophobic & racist abuse at the referee again as well?'"
Probably!
Fortunately there was no Traditional Haka for them to disrespect!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Bless. Come SOO you'll have a hard on for attendances and tv..'"
Yessir, just like I did last year and every year prior.
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Quote ="gutterfax"If you don't want to look foolish....sorry, any more foolish than you normally do, I'd step away from cross-code comparisons, especially with insane claims like the one above.
606,000 Aussies tuned in to watch the game on TV........that's less than the number of Aussies that tuned in to the RWC2011 Final and that didn't even feature Australia.'"
How did the bledisloe cup rate this year?lol
www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport/ev ... kMDFgEzQGL
SOO 4million+ viewers, $50mill plus a year media value + $20mill ticket sales + cities paying $2.5mill to host it + massive merch sales
Why is england rugby union so e in comparison? they should pack up now and merge with the RFL lol.
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606,000 Aussies tuned in to watch the game on TV........that's less than the number of Aussies that tuned in to the RWC2011 Final and that didn't even feature Australia.'"
How did the bledisloe cup rate this year?lol
www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport/ev ... kMDFgEzQGL
SOO 4million+ viewers, $50mill plus a year media value + $20mill ticket sales + cities paying $2.5mill to host it + massive merch sales
Why is england rugby union so e in comparison? they should pack up now and merge with the RFL lol.
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| Bledisloe game 1 623k
4nations final 606k
And they say international Union is their strength, wallabies rated lower this year than kangaroos v samoa!
And RU has failed to generate any interest from fta tv yet again lol. A whooping $5mill a year increase to $40mill a year for S15, only $170mill a year behind the NRL! Union slips further into insignificance in Australia.
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SOO 4million+ viewers, $50mill plus a year media value + $20mill ticket sales + cities paying $2.5mill to host it + massive merch sales
Why is england rugby union so poop in comparison? they should pack up now and merge with the RFL lol.'"
England RU generats more ticket sales, more TV viewers abd generally more of everything than SOO......not sure what point it is you're actually failing to make?
the pseudo french poster claims that this 4 nations is the best competition yet in either code.....he was on the wind up and I have said I should have known better, but all the same, he is wrong.....it wasn't even better than RLWC 2013.
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www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport/ev ... kMDFgEzQGL
SOO 4million+ viewers, $50mill plus a year media value + $20mill ticket sales + cities paying $2.5mill to host it + massive merch sales
Why is england rugby union so poop in comparison? they should pack up now and merge with the RFL lol.'"
England RU generats more ticket sales, more TV viewers abd generally more of everything than SOO......not sure what point it is you're actually failing to make?
the pseudo french poster claims that this 4 nations is the best competition yet in either code.....he was on the wind up and I have said I should have known better, but all the same, he is wrong.....it wasn't even better than RLWC 2013.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"England RU generats more ticket sales, more TV viewers abd generally more of everything than SOO......not sure what point it is you're actually failing to make?
the pseudo french poster claims that this 4 nations is the best competition yet in either code.....he was on the wind up and I have said I should have known better, but all the same, he is wrong.....it wasn't even better than RLWC 2013.'"
Classic Gomper.
The pseudo French poster was clearly talking about the games themselves, not the viewing figures and attendances. And he was right, for once.
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| Oh great another thread getting derailed by Gutterfax bigging up RU numbers, it's been a while. In a page or two he'll inevitably cry innocence that it wasn't he who started it.
FWIW, if we are including all aspects as to what was the best rugby tournament ever then every RU tournament ever held fails to win that title due to massive failings in the on-field action category.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Oh great another thread getting derailed by Gutterfax bigging up RU numbers, it's been a while. In a page or two he'll inevitably cry innocence that it wasn't he who started it.
FWIW, if we are including all aspects as to what was the best rugby tournament ever then every RU tournament ever held fails to win that title due to massive failings in the on-field action category.'"
It's also a bit bizarre considering not long ago he posted saying how great the 4 nations attendances were. Even though he got his numbers wrong and then whined like a tart.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Oh great another thread getting derailed by Gutterfax bigging up RU numbers, it's been a while. In a page or two he'll inevitably cry innocence that it wasn't he who started it.
FWIW, if we are including all aspects as to what was the best rugby tournament ever then every RU tournament ever held fails to win that title due to massive failings in the on-field action category.'"
I didn't bring Union to the table. The pseudo Frenchman did.
Opinions are like @rseholes buddy and unfortunately for you and your other neo-facist defenders of the RFL faith, the opinion of the majority is that they'd rather turn up and tune in in larger numbers for the Union than the League.
Both games are poles apart in so many on-field aspects that the constant comparison by the more insecure of you on here is puzzling. Every quantifiable area of comparison, money, audience, spectators, media inches, public opinion...everything points to the game you despise being bigger and more popular.
I know this hurts your brain and has you reaching for your bumper book of b'stard things done to league by union....you even have a copy of it in French I am sure, but it is the reality of the games.
Given I was actually at this tournament, experiencing games across NZ, I am pretty well placed to say that it was a fantastic comp, but the reality is that Samoa v NZ was a game for the purists, England v Australia was littered with errors across the park and the officiating and choosing of referees was farcial. No matter that SJ skinned Inglis for a cracking individual score in the final, no matter that the Beast is now the #1 Kiwi try scorer of all time.....this tournament on and off the park has had it's bad things too.....and therefore, on and off the park, it is not the best tournament even in RL.......that was the 2013 RLWC.
Now...toddle off and thumb through your almanac of BBC media conspiracies against Rugby League 2014......
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| Quote ="gutterfax".... a load of totally irrelevant gomper stats and opinion that have f-all to do with the topic in question... again....
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| Quote ="loiner81"You really are one special kind of moron.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"In a page or two he'll inevitably cry innocence that it wasn't he who started it.'"
Quote ="gutterfax"I didn't bring Union to the table. The pseudo Frenchman did.'"
Yep, check
Quote ="Gutterfax"Opinions are like @rseholes buddy and unfortunately for you and your other neo-facist defenders of the RFL faith, the opinion of the majority is that they'd rather turn up and tune in in larger numbers for the Union than the League.
Both games are poles apart in so many on-field aspects that the constant comparison by the more insecure of you on here is puzzling. Every quantifiable area of comparison, money, audience, spectators, media inches, public opinion...everything points to the game you despise being bigger and more popular.
I know this hurts your brain and has you reaching for your bumper book of b'stard things done to league by union....you even have a copy of it in French I am sure, but it is the reality of the games.
Given I was actually at this tournament, experiencing games across NZ, I am pretty well placed to say that it was a fantastic comp, but the reality is that Samoa v NZ was a game for the purists, England v Australia was littered with errors across the park and the officiating and choosing of referees was farcial. No matter that SJ skinned Inglis for a cracking individual score in the final, no matter that the Beast is now the #1 Kiwi try scorer of all time.....this tournament on and off the park has had it's bad things too.....and therefore, on and off the park, it is not the best tournament even in RL.......that was the 2013 RLWC.
Now...toddle off and thumb through your almanac of BBC media conspiracies against Rugby League 2014......
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That's quite an impressive hissy fit you've thrown there. Unfortunately I'm not one of those who blame the X, Y, Z you mentioned for RL shortcomings and I have nothing particularly against RU except that I find it boring.
Merely pointing out that you took something and twisted it just so you could have your tedious repetitive RU is so much better monthly troll attempt......(oh sorry, forgot you NEVER start it ). For all the whinging you do about RL fans being sensitive about RU comparisons you don't half bitch like a little girl at every slight hint of RU comparision of the VT.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yep, check'"
It was straight away, not in a couple of pages. And I didn't.....
Quote ="ThePrinter"That's quite an impressive hissy fit you've thrown there. Unfortunately I'm not one of those who blame the X, Y, Z you mentioned for RL shortcomings and I have nothing particularly against RU except that I find it boring.
Merely pointing out that you took something and twisted it just so you could have your tedious repetitive RU is so much better monthly troll attempt......(oh sorry, forgot you NEVER start it
). For all the whinging you do about RL fans being sensitive about RU comparisons you don't half bitch like a little girl at every slight hint of RU comparision of the VT.'"
...think you'll find that I recommend you insecure lads step away from comparisons, because they never stack up well. I could understand it if I started the comparing, but I don't.
By the way. To clarify a point that you seem misguided on, I do not think Union is better than League and you'll be hard pressed to find a post where I have said it. What I have said is that Union is a better run game and one we in league could learn from.
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| We all know RL is a minority sport with small but hard core group of supporters. Its strength is in the club game - always has been always will be. The international game can only ever be a side show due to the lack of competitive countries.
If you look at RU its a bigger sport with a greater diversity of participating nations but for all that it is only dominant in four countries - three of which are tiny, NZ, Ireland and Wales. Everywhere it is a poor second/third to other sports. In the England/Scotland comparing its revenue streams to soccer is laughable, the same goes for France, Italy and Argentina. In Australia its a distant 4th to Rules, RL and Cricket.
The idea that RU is hugely powerful sport generating huge revenue streams simply doesn't stack up. Half the teams in the premiership are financially unstable same goes for the super 12s. Compared to other sports its a poor cousin with limited pulling power albeit significantly bigger than RL.
The difference in the two sports can be easily illustrated. The All Blacks are a brand a bit like the Harlem Globetrotters that transcend the sport - their interest is building the brand not enhancing the sport. Its like SOO - those guys must look at the All Blacks with envy - a global brand compared to made up local rivalry. Having been to both the atmosphere at a SOO game is muted and sterile the same can never be said of any All Blacks game.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Turned into a good thread this.'"
guttersnipe loves to hijack good threads for the purpose of pursuing his own pathological obsessions, which are usually irrelevant to the original thread topic.
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