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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"You've never heard of Gareth Ellis then??'"
good signing if you had done it 2 seasons ago
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"You've never heard of Gareth Ellis then??'"
Good player not a top star player anymore IMO
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Can you just remind me of the big name star players that you lot have signed. Don't count Willy Mason because he only came for a laugh.'"
Rommel is a Saints fan.
Saints have signed Jordan Turner.
LOLZ.
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Rommel is a Saints fan.
Saints have signed Jordan Turner.
LOLZ.'"
And arguably 1 of the best 2nd rowers in SL in 2012
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| Quote ="Barnabus"Rommel is a Saints fan.
Saints have signed Jordan Turner.
LOLZ.'"
Saints sign quality like Lance Hohaia
But really there is a big differance with Saints signing Turner and Hull going shopping at Harrods with Poundland Pulling power
Hull are an embarrassment to SL
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| Who has made a bigger signing this year?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Who has made a bigger signing this year?'"
pity youve got no scrum half to play behind your world class pack then is it
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| There maybe one still available.
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| Quote ="fcimp"There maybe one still available.
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And im sure that Adam Pearson will throw another big name into the mix shortly. Those season passes dont sell themselves you know.....
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| Is nobody else embarrassed by this thread?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"And im sure that Adam Pearson will throw another big name into the mix shortly. Those season passes dont sell themselves you know.....'"
Indeed. We'll need to cut back on youth development expenditure otherwise, by offloading Lee Radford, for example.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Who has made a bigger signing this year?'"
In the over 30's category, Ellis.
In the under 30's category, Burns.
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| Quote ="General Zod."In the over 30's category, Ellis.
In the under 30's category, Burns.'"
Who said anything about categories?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"That still played 126 games in 5 years for you guys. That recurring knee injury sure slowed him down! He's only a back up to the back up anyway, behind Ellis, Tickle, Whiting and Westerman. He's there to offer some experience.
Any player can pick up a significant injury at any time. Doesn't mean they won't recover or that they're recurring or injury prone.'"
Ben Galea first picked up his knee injury in 2008 and each time it has reoccured, he's spent slightly more time out until last season when he was out for 12 weeks with it and it wasn't even a heavy tackle, more like a stray boot that caught his knee.
When he returned it took him longer to get to full-fitness and in some performances such as the Good Friday derby and Catalans at home in the cup he was utterly pedestrian but he obviously had enough runs on the board from the previous 4 seasons for most of the fans to even bat an eye lid.
Ben Galea is my favourite Rovers player of the SL era but we got half a dozen games worth of 20+ you should expect when paying a player a 100k+ salary and I'm glad the club have put a stop to wasting money and sought out a replacement in Cory Paterson who should provide far more value for money.
Quote ="Wellsy13"Ellis has played 22-24-18-11 games in his four seasons. So other than a broken foot (which he's recovered from after being out for 15 weeks and was playing for the rest of the NRL season), he's not really has any significant time out of the season. Couple of niggles here and there which are part and parcel of the game.'"
Ellis's stats over the last few seasons have already shown a decline in output of games and regardless of how good he is or isn't, he's 32 so time is against him.
Quote ="Wellsy13"You can try all you like to paint FC's signings out to be injury ravaged crocks, but you're only highlighting your own envy.
If Hudge had the money, he'd have been after all of them.'"
This is where you are deluded and caught up in a wave of emotion about what signings you've actually made.
I'm pretty sure Rovers looked into signing Ellis on a 2 year deal but certainly not 3 and not on the type of money you are paying him.
I've covered Ben Galea but suffice to say, you're deluded if you think even if we were spending the full cap, we'd be spending 100K plus on retaining a 34 year old with half a dozen decent games last season - we'll leave that to another club.
As for Scott Prince, to suggest we'd sign a 32 year old on mega bucks when we have a proven 26 year old SL scrum-half in Dobson suggests that you are not only deluded, but stupid.
Pearson talks with a lot of passion but you can tell when he talks that he doesn't really understand the game; referring to Holdsworth to "get the team in the right places to attack" when he is not an organisational type of player at all - more of an individual with good creativity approaching the line.
I've have enough of my club signing players for "experience" - experience of what? - giving the club's physio plenty of practice? fetching cups of tea for the coach cos he's at a loose end in the stand?
No players go out to get injured, but I'm glad my club have stopped wasting money on such players and even when the investment comes in, I still want the club to be careful who they spend money on.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Who said anything about categories?'"
Me. Because signing 28 year old NRL first graders is practically impossible in today's market - hence why as far as I'm aware, we are the only club to have managed this.
Despite being chased by NZ Warriors and being offered more money from another SL club, he has chosen Hull KR primarily because of his relationship with our coach and a reference from Clint Newton.
Ellis is coming to Hull FC because you offered more money than Leeds and as a knock-on consequence, have failed to retain the more threatening player in Willie Manu.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Ben Galea first picked up his knee injury in 2008 and each time it has reoccured, he's spent slightly more time out until last season when he was out for 12 weeks with it and it wasn't even a heavy tackle, more like a stray boot that caught his knee.
When he returned it took him longer to get to full-fitness and in some performances such as the Good Friday derby and Catalans at home in the cup he was utterly pedestrian but he obviously and enough runs on the board for the previous 4 seasons for most of the fans to even bat an eye lid.
Ben Galea is my favourite Rovers player of the SL era but we got half a dozen games worth of 20+ you should expect when paying a player a 100k+ salary and I'm glad the club have put a stop to wasting money and sought out a replacement in Cory Paterson who should provide far more value for money.'"
Good job he's a back up player then. We won't need many games out of him with Ellis, Tickle, Westerman and Whiting. He won't be relied on like he was at Rovers, so hopefully all these niggly injuries won't be an issue.
Quote ="General Zod."Ellis's stats over the last few seasons have already shown a decline in output of games and regardless of how good he is or isn't, he's 32 so time is against him.'"
Decline in which stats?
Quote ="General Zod."This is where you are deluded and caught up in a wave of emotion about what signings you've actually made.
I'm pretty sure Rovers looked into signing Ellis on a 2 year deal but certainly not 3 and not on the type of money you are paying him.'"
Another Rovers fan who seems to know our accounts.
Apparently Hull are paying all our signings a huge wedge, and yet still had enough money left to put in an offer for Prince! (You know, that scrum half who only was signing for us because he was over the hill and wanted one last pay check, yet has gone to one of the biggest clubs in the world instead on a huge contract for two years).
Quote ="General Zod."I've covered Ben Galea but suffice to say, you're deluded if you think even if we were spending the full cap, we'd be spending 100K plus on Galea - we'll leave that to another club.'"
Again, how much are we paying him? Seems a lot for a bench player. A 16th of the cap? How could we afford the other 16 players in the starting lineup and the rest of the squad and still have room for Prince? Hmmmm...
Quote ="General Zod."As for Scott Prince, to suggest we'd sign a 32 year old on mega bucks when we have a proven 26 year old SL scrum-half in Dobson suggests that you are not only deluded, but stupid.'"
Well there are rumours if Dobson being unhappy...
Of course, when he leaves he'll just be an injury prone Aussie crock...
Quote ="General Zod."Pearson talks with a lot of passion but you can tell when he talks that he doesn't really understand the game; referring to Holdsworth to "get the team in the right places to attack" when he is not an organisational type of player at all - more of an individual with good creativity approaching the line.'"
You don't need to be an organisational player to get teams in the right place in attack. If he make a break and pass it to someone, that's gotten us in the right place. Support play. Kicking. You're looking so desperately to find fault it's becoming pathetic, especially as you're trying to cover it with the odd compliment to hide it.
Quote ="General Zod."I've have enough of my club signing players for "experience" - experience of what? - giving the club's physio plenty of practice? fetching cups of tea for the coach cos he's at a loose end in the stand?
No players go out to get injured, but I'm glad my club have stopped wasting money on such players and even when the investment comes in, I still want the club to be careful who they spend money on.'"
Until the club change their tune, and you come following behind like a rat to the Pied Piper.
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| Quote ="General Zod."Me. '"
But that wasn't the question.
Who's the bigger signing?
Quote ="General Zod."Because signing 28 year old NRL first graders is practically impossible in today's market - hence why as far as I'm aware, we are the only club to have managed this.'"
Maybe he's just not as good as you think he is then?
Quote ="General Zod."Despite being chased by NZ Warriors and being offered more money from another SL club, he has chosen Hull KR primarily because of his relationship with our coach and a reference from Clint Newton.'"
Is the mention of the money offered common knowledge? Or just is it just rumours and hear say to add "credibility" to your argument?...
Quote ="General Zod."Ellis is coming to Hull FC because you offered more money than Leeds and as a knock-on consequence, have failed to retain the more threatening player in Willie Manu.'"
So your now saying Manu is a more threatening player, yet you think Ellis is the better overseas signing? How does that work?
And I'm deluded?!
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| Quote ="General Zod."Me. Because signing 28 year old NRL first graders is practically impossible in today's market - hence why as far as I'm aware, we are the only club to have managed this.(justin poore joining wakefield)
Despite being chased by NZ Warriors and being offered more money from another SL club, he has chosen Hull KR primarily because of his relationship with our coach and a reference from Clint Newton.
Ellis is coming to Hull FC because you offered more money than Leeds and as a knock-on consequence, have failed to retain the more threatening player in Willie Manu.'"
So Ellis picked us because we offered more money but Burns turned down more money to join sandercock at kr ? Haha you really are a rum one
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"But that wasn't the question.
Who's the bigger signing?'"
Ellis I suppose, just like Willie Mason was a "big signing" for us.
Quote ="Wellsy13"Maybe he's just not as good as you think he is then?'"
Or maybe he is but you're that caught up in Pearson's propaganda machine that you've lost touch with the reality of what's going on elsewhere with Super League signings.
Quote ="Wellsy13"Is the mention of the money offered common knowledge? Or just is it just rumours and hear say to add "credibility" to your argument?...'"
Craig Sandercock said so on Hull KR TV - I certainly don't think he's a liar.
Quote ="Wellsy13"So your now saying Manu is a more threatening player, yet you think Ellis is the better overseas signing? How does that work?'"
You asked who was the "bigger" signing - not the "better" signing. Manu is the better signing because he is more of a constant threat but Ellis is the "bigger" signing because his name aids Pearson's propaganda machine to sell passes.
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| General Zod: providing opportunities for amusing quotes on RLFans for almost seven years.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"General Zod: providing opportunities for amusing quotes on RLFans for almost seven years.'"
and only seems to post after the season has finished!
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"General Zod: providing opportunities for amusing quotes on RLFans for almost seven years.'"
Yep and here's another one:-
In hindsight there was more chance of you signing Prince Charles than Scott Prince #mugs
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| I like pearsons propaganda machine green with envy is mr zod
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