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| If it was mistimed and Chase isn't that sort of person, why would he congratulate himself?
Clutching at straws twonk.
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| Quote ="mattj13"If it was mistimed and Chase isn't that sort of person, why would he congratulate himself?'"
Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.
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| Quote ="mattj13"If it was mistimed and Chase isn't that sort of person, why would he congratulate himself?
Clutching at straws twonk.'"
He wasn't congratulating himself, he merely threw his arms up in exasperation that his perfectly innocent challenge was so unfortunately mistimed. Don't you know anything?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.'"
Apart from the fact you've already estabilished, through the medium of high def, high speed photography, that there was no shoulder involved. In this case you'd have to outlaw strikes to the chops with a fuzzy elbow/, and thats already been done.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Apart from the fact you've already estabilished, through the medium of high def, high speed photography, that there was no shoulder involved. In this case you'd have to outlaw strikes to the chops with a fuzzy elbow/booty, and thats already been done.'"
A poor attempt at a shoulder charge, like the one Chase made would make an excellent case for outlawing the shoulder charge because there are players who don't know how to do it properly and in a manner which can be considered safe.
Oh and just so you know, you can see the white shorts Cas were wearing further down the image
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.'"
Are you Rangis dad or some-thing because this is just getting embarrassing and awkward
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| Gronk, don't try to defend it! Wait for the RFL verdict and then either gloat that you were right or man up and admit you were wrong. As things stand you're in a hole and still digging furiously!
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| Gronk, don't try to defend it! Wait for the RFL verdict and then either gloat that you were right or man up and admit you were wrong. As things stand you're in a hole and still digging furiously!
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| Whoops, not v. good with mobiles!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Gronk, don't try to defend it! Wait for the RFL verdict and then either gloat that you were right or man up and admit you were wrong. As things stand you're in a hole and still digging furiously!'"
Last thing I'm going to mention on this because it's going round in circles thanks to trolls:
It was a bad challenge, it was probably accidental but people like to think otherwise and there was no elbow involved. The only thing I've said is that there was no elbow involved, not that he should get away with it.
He will get a ban for it because of the nature of the challenge (high tackle) and the damage it caused, it really is that simple.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Right seems nobody here can deal with just a word, here is photographic proof, here is initial contact and just to make it easier for you, Chase's elbow has a big red circle around it:
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That's as clear as you'll get it because the slow mo replay isn't very good, but clearly shows initial contact is not with the elbow.'"
It shows very little. Had you taken a still from that video just one second later you would have a perfectly blurred picture of Chase's forearm in direct contact with Ropati's face.
Deliberate and unjustifiable...unless you're Gronk.
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| You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Quote ="Gronk!"Why did Jonathan Walker congratulate himself when he broke Luke Burgess' jaw from an accidental head collision...again on a shoulder charge?
If you allow shoulder charges, things like this will happen from time to time - the only way to stop it would be to copy Union and ban shoulder charging.'"
Apart from the fact you've already estabilished, through the medium of high def, high speed photography, that there was no shoulder involved. In this case you'd have to outlaw strikes to the chops with a fuzzy elbow/booty, and thats already been done.'"
Good arrows.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it'"
He forgot to mention that he saw Rangi helping an old lady across the road today and that he gives all his wages to charity.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it'"
I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Quote ="Rock God X"He forgot to mention that he saw Rangi helping an old lady across the road today and that he gives all his wages to charity.'"
Not a very good troll are you?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Whereas on page 1 of this very thread..
Quote ="Gronk!"Nothing, he mistimed a big hit.
It was that bad the ref said it was fine and the commentators loved it.'"
or Page 2
Quote ="Gronk!"Linesman waved play on, that's how bad it was
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Quote ="Durham Giant"You know it is a really bad tackle when Twonk is the only Cas fan trying to defend it'"
I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Quote ="Rock God X"He forgot to mention that he saw Rangi helping an old lady across the road today and that he gives all his wages to charity.'"
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Troll? Hardly. Just marvelling at how blinkered you are.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Whereas on page 1 of this very thread..
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Which was after one look at it.
After looking at it again, whilst still mistimed and deemed legal by the officials, it was high and reckless.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Quote ="Gronk!"I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
Where did I say the tackle was fine, or that he shouldn't be banned for it?
Oh wait! That's right, I didn't say that.
The tackle deserves a ban, it will probably get banned but the notion he lead with his elbow is preposterous.
Not a very good troll are you?'"
Whereas on page 1 of this very thread..
Quote ="Gronk!"Nothing, he mistimed a big hit.
It was that bad the ref said it was fine and the commentators loved it.'"
or Page 2
Quote ="Gronk!"Linesman waved play on, that's how bad it was
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That was before his high resolution image became available.
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| It really is embarrassing. First it was the refs fault Cas lost to a 2nd Division team, now it's a pathetic defence of an awful tackle.
Having seen the slow mo replay, the one on the Cas board, its a very bad one.
Yes he tries a big hit with his shoulder. But, as he gets close he knows he's mistimed it and is being stepped so he moves his elbow up and outward. Needs a long ban.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Which was after one look at it.
After looking at it again, whilst still mistimed and deemed legal by the officials, it was high and reckless.'"
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Nothing, he mistimed a big hit.
It was that bad the ref said it was fine and the commentators loved it.'"
Errr so did Moa but he copped a ban.
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| Nasty, launched himself into it with his elbow raised. 6-8 weeks++ due to extent of injury if the RFL have got any balls.
I would like to see injury caused considered in situations like this.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I guess you struggle with basic comprehension?
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His grasp of comprehension is only eclipsed by your grasp of basic anatomy
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"I may be among the minority. But this is just poor technique. And this is how Rangi often tackles, He comes out of the line with a big shoulder to put shots on, And most of the time. Its fine.
He has mistimed this one, From the way i see it, The initial contact may be in the tricep area and as his arm follows through, It looks like its an Elbow. I dont think he has intentionally attacked Ropati with an Elbow/ Forearm. Having watched Rangi over the years, This is how he tackles. Jumps in with a shoulder with his arm stiffened.
Unfortunately, He is likely to get banned, As he has misjudged it, And caused damage. But for me, Should be 2 or 3 games. And a warning on his technique.'"
I think that's fair though I'd go for four - it was for me a mixture of petulance and poor technique.
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