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| Quote ="Cripesginger"I agree that it must be tempting for the CEO to tamper when the head coach is so obviously out of his depth.
The issue of CEO's being involved in selction is an interesting one. according to one wakey poster on here Elston made decisions on who to sign for half the newbies
I do not think being the head coach at one SL club is completely unrelated to being head coach at another. But if we accept your point that they are chalk and cheese.....what basis was there for giving Agar the job, other than personal friendship or a 'hunch'?'"
Maybe so but i presume the poster was talking about signings made prior to Agar becoming the head coach, not whilst he has been at the club.
Neither you nor i have the right to assume that he was given the job because he's pally with the CEO (which is in fact not entirely true anyway). Why can he not be left for a season or so to prove what his capabilities are at Wakefield? Why do you feel the need to constantly look down your nose and stick the boot into everything concerned with WTWRLFC?
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| He wont get a hat trick today! Anyway good thread about a good young english player this!
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| Good thread about a young english lad this! Anyway he wont score a hat ttrick today
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| Usual 2 points for the giants
Close the thread until the week proceeding the return game when the Wakey fans can prove how much they don't care about the Giants again
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| Quote ="bren2k"Someone lock this thread; Cripesginger is the fourth or fifth incanartion of a poster who only ever contributes to stick the boot into WTW in an egregious and usually dishonest way; I think Ted once snubbed her advances and she's never recovered.'"
Wise up. I post about plenty. It is just you and your thin skinned friends you get all het up. Some are so thick that instead of commenting on rugby they resort to fantasising about posters trying to be intimate with their former chairman.
Giants were mediocre today but still far too good for wakey.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Wise up. I post about plenty. It is just you and your thin skinned friends you get all het up. Some are so thick that instead of commenting on rugby they resort to fantasising about posters trying to be intimate with their former chairman.
Giants were mediocre today but still far too good for wakey.'"
Everything went to script, Giants wonand you're still talking cr@p.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Everything went to script, Giants wonand you're still talking cr@p.'"
Wakey supporter has nothing to say about rugby and resorts to infantile abuse....hold the front page!!!!
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Wakey supporter has nothing to say about rugby and resorts to infantile abuse....hold the front page!!!!
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You should check my posts a little more carefully !
Shudds were firm favourites to win and they won at a canter and you even rested last weeks hat trick hero, plus Robinson.
Your fans (assuming you are a Hudds fan) travelled in good number. Were you one of them, or do you just sit on here waiting to throw in anti-Wakey stuff ?
If you didnt see the game, it wasn't a great spectacle, but Hudds were comfortable winners.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You should check my posts a little more carefully !
Shudds were firm favourites to win and they won at a canter and you even rested last weeks hat trick hero, plus Robinson.
Your fans (assuming you are a Hudds fan) travelled in good number. Were you one of them, or do you just sit on here waiting to throw in anti-Wakey stuff ?
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Saw the post i replied to. It was infantile piffle.
"Shudds"...oh dear. How old are you? 8?
Robbo was not rested. He was unwell. I would say Robbo, George, Fa'alogo, O'Donnell would be in our best 17 with Fergy and Mason having a chance.
Was there. As ever. We were mediocre but won. Cannot believe how Agar flogs Kirmond until he is knackered (and error prone). He is far better in 2 X 25 min spells. I pity the guys who will have to defend alongside Collis. Renowned as a poor defender who goes awol...Sheens + Simmons + Gentle couldn't sort him when he was at West Tigers I doubt Agar will [saw him live playing for wests a few times when I was in Oz.....see...not sitting around ).
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Saw the post i replied to. It was infantile piffle.
"Shudds"...oh dear. How old are you? 8?
Robbo was not rested. He was unwell. I would say Robbo, George, Fa'alogo, O'Donnell would be in our best 17 with Fergy and Mason having a chance.
Was there. As ever. We were mediocre but won. Cannot believe how Agar flogs Kirmond until he is knackered (and error prone). He is far better in 2 X 25 min spells. I pity the guys who will have to defend alongside Collis. Renowned as a poor defender who goes awol...Sheens + Simmons + Gentle couldn't sort him when he was at West Tigers I doubt Agar will [saw him live playing for wests a few times when I was in Oz.....see...not sitting around
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I wonder why he remained a first team regular if he was so poor defensively.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"I wonder why he remained a first team regular if he was so poor defensively.'"
80 games in 7 seasons and 24 in 2 seasons at the sharks is not exactly regular. Little surprise that he popped over here.
This year i have seen your televised games and the Giants game. He still appears a poor defender and a softc*ck.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"80 games in 7 seasons and 24 in 2 seasons at the sharks is not exactly regular. Little surprise that he popped over here.
This year i have seen your televised games and the Giants game. He still appears a poor defender and a softc*ck.'"
He didnt take your place in the team did he, as you seem to have some sort of crusade going against both him and Wakey at the moment ?
Time to move on, you only have to play us twice a year (although there is always the challenge cup)
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"He didnt take your place in the team did he, as you seem to have some sort of crusade going against both him and Wakey at the moment ?
Time to move on, you only have to play us twice a year (although there is always the challenge cup)'"
So a couple of posts or 3 (including a response to someone else's post) constitutes a crusade.........wow.
I note that you do not refer to a play off place.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"So a couple of posts or 3 (including a response to someone else's post) constitutes a crusade.........wow.
I note that you do not refer to a play off place.'"
In the words of your stereotypical "bullseye" contestant, we've had a great time and we'd like to give someone else a chance.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"80 games in 7 seasons and 24 in 2 seasons at the sharks is not exactly regular. Little surprise that he popped over here.
This year i have seen your televised games and the Giants game. He still appears a poor defender and a softc*ck.'"
Your figures are a little harsh.
He didnt break into the team until 2005 - playing a handful of games.
Played all games in 2006 & 2007
Beset by injuries in 2008 - 2009.
Indeed when Cronulla signed him he was still recovering from an injury.
So if hes such a poor defender and evidently injury prone,i wonder why all those coaches you named gave him so much game time.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Your figures are a little harsh.
He didnt break into the team until 2005 - playing a handful of games.
Played all games in 2006 & 2007
Beset by injuries in 2008 - 2009.
Indeed when Cronulla signed him he was still recovering from an injury.
So if hes such a poor defender and evidently injury prone,i wonder why all those coaches you named gave him so much game time.'"
Not harsh, accurate.
24 games in 2 years is not much game time. (Nor is 80 in 7 years)
If his best defence is that he has biscuits for bones then that does not bode well. Since 2007 he has been beset by injury in a league with top of the range sports medicine, physio and conditoning and somebody at wakey signs him.
As Collis was hitting his 'prime' re age Wests gave him the flick and sharks gave him a go and they chose not to retain him.
Maybe it is his frailty that causes DC to go awol in defence. After all he wouldn't want to get injured.....again.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"He didnt take your place in the team did he, as you seem to have some sort of crusade going against both him and Wakey at the moment ?
Time to move on, you only have to play us twice a year (although there is always the challenge cup)'"
She going off on one about our announcer now (on shudds forum), he seems to have upset her with a little tounge in cheek joke.
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| Quote ="deeHell"She going off on one about our announcer now (on shudds forum), he seems to have upset her with a little tounge in cheek joke.
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Upset? No. If you want to see upset read the comments on the wakey forum when I post on the VT. Now that is thin skinned
Do you think Agar has learned to use interchanges effectively? Do you think flogging Kirmond for an hour is good coaching? With all your signings why did agar fail to sign a decent kicker? Do you think Collis defends well? Why do you think Smith, Mellars and Mathers play with such little heart?
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Upset? No. If you want to see upset read the comments on the wakey forum when I post on the VT. Now that is thin skinned
Do you think Agar has learned to use interchanges effectively? Do you think flogging Kirmond for an hour is good coaching? With all your signings why did agar fail to sign a decent kicker? Do you think Collis defends well? Why do you think Smith, Mellars and Mathers play with such little heart?'"
For a Shudds fan, you really do seem to have a problem with all things Wakey !
"Your" team won at a canter yesterday and yet all you want to do is slate Wakeys players and coach.
Its asthough you've been wronged or excludet by our club.
A problem shared is a problem solved and as you can see, we're all prepared to "help", just ask.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Not harsh, accurate.
24 games in 2 years is not much game time. (Nor is 80 in 7 years)
If his best defence is that he has biscuits for bones then that does not bode well. Since 2007 he has been beset by injury in a league with top of the range sports medicine, physio and conditoning and somebody at wakey signs him.
As Collis was hitting his 'prime' re age Wests gave him the flick and sharks gave him a go and they chose not to retain him.
Maybe it is his frailty that causes DC to go awol in defence. After all he wouldn't want to get injured.....again.'"
Lets try again,since breaking into first team in 2005,when available for selection he has been a regular starter.
His injuries started in 2008 not 2007.
So why do you think that an injury prone player,who in your opinion is a poor defender has had so much game time?
Why would such a poor defender have played every game in 2006 and 2007?
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Lets try again,since breaking into first team in 2005,when available for selection he has been a regular starter.
[u[Yes lets try again. He signed as a professional in 2003. In 9 season he managed 104 NRL games. Dreadful. [/u
His injuries started in 2008 not 2007.
[u[Yes. So since 2007 ie 2008 onwards he has been crocked or not good enough to catch first team. Four years of not making the grade[/u
So why do you think that an injury prone player,who in your opinion is a poor defender has had so much game time?
[u[I know by the standard of some of the wakey players he has heaps of nrl games but 100 ish in 9 seasons is rank[/u
Why would such a poor defender have played every game in 2006 and 2007?
[u[Why indeed? Since 2007 Wests and sharks have hardly played him and chose not to retain him. The injury card is playing a little thin[/u
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I do not think DC is dumb but soft. Watch him carefully and see him drift out of position and see the players around him struggle. When he has to tackle he is too often weak. Most of all do play him versus the Giants.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"For a Shudds fan, you really do seem to have a problem with all things Wakey !
"Your" team won at a canter yesterday and yet all you want to do is slate Wakeys players and coach.
Its asthough you've been wronged or excludet by our club.
A problem shared is a problem solved and as you can see, we're all prepared to "help", just ask.'"
Why not try writing about rugby? You and several other wakey posters like to try this amateur analysis. Rather infantile guesswork. Says much about how you think.....oh dear.
Enjoy your game at wolves.
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| Will someone please lock this infantile thread.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"I do not think DC is dumb but soft. Watch him carefully and see him drift out of position and see the players around him struggle. When he has to tackle he is too often weak. Most of all do play him versus the Giants.'"
Your comments are noted,however also noted is your inability to actually [uanswer[/u the two questions with a reasoned response.
Clearly you found the questions a little hard to understand.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Why not try writing about rugby? You and several other wakey posters like to try this amateur analysis. Rather infantile guesswork. Says much about how you think.....oh dear.
Enjoy your game at wolves.'"
I tried writing about rugby but you still failed to answer my questions.
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