Like Mauri Faasavalu.

There was actually a similarly poor reaction to that particular selection if memory serves me right?

In Fa'asavalu's defence, he didn't have another nation to represent in the Four Nations, unlike Chase. That's not to say I agreed with Fa'asavalu's inclusion.

They were.

But this is why English RL has been so far behind, every other country will pick the best players available to them no matter where they were born - England are starting to do so now and it's about time too.

Some people on here were sulking because others were saying Harrison Hanson isn't English - well he chose not to play for England yet when someone who qualifies for England on the same grounds as him does want to play for England everyone is up in arms about a "non-Englishman" being picked

As he has said, he din't know that he was eligible then. He is making a life in England and now wants to play for his adopted country. If he has a right to do so, what's the problem?

If this helps make our international team more competitive, I'm all for it.

Would you turn down Jack Reed? He is English but, other than with a period playing in Yorkshire amateur teams, largely Australian trained and living in Australia. Similar story with Gareth Widdop. Neither can be said to be products of the English pro game. They are both products of the Australian system.

I would be happy with any of these players and, indeed, any player who qualifies to play for England who can add quality and depth to the squad. If this gets us a little closer to the Aussies and NZ then it is worth it.

As I wrote earlier, we've done it before with Faasavalu. I understand the misgivings some people have and the fact that it leaves less options for young English players but, if they are good enough, they'll get their chance.

You do realise that Hansen is a British citizen, grew up in England, went to school in England, played all of his junior rugby in England and represented England at Academy level, don't you? Very different scenarios as far as I'm concerned.

Yet after all that he chose not to represent England, where as Rangi Chase wants to play for England and opted to play for England as soon as he knew he was allowed to do so. IMO that makes Chase more English because he wants to represent the country.

If he wants to represent England so much then he can apply for a British passport.

Harrison Hansen played for the Kiwi's.....................and then Samoa

Bingo he was desperate to play for NZ few weeks back... If he wa so passionate about playing for England surely he would have known the exact date he became eligible.

Pepe Reid and Widdop were both born English and it's their right to represent that nation from birth. Not even convinced on Reid as said was a Quernslander through and through few months back, similar with Heighington.

Fact is in comparison to Aus, NZ we are taking these players because they CAN'T get a game for the other side which is embarrassing and a blow to this Englisj lads desperate to play for THEIR Country!

Do you really believe that if Chase had the choice between playing for N.Z or England, he would have picked England?

Many posters like yourself are of the persuasion that ‘If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.

Others, like myself, would like to see the World Cup won by a bunch of lads from England, and never the twain..

Why should it be Reed's right to represent England? Hasn't he spent less time in this country than Chase and contributed nothing in that period. Chase will have contributed an awful lot more to this country than an awful lot of people who were born in this country.

We might as well, everyone else does it

Its a joke.

Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Is there any audio available for this interview? Prepared to take it back if this was an on-the-spot interview, but it smacks of 'constructed press release' to me.'" "I'll be playing for the country I call home" www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1813 (AV, just for you ) Personally, I don't care if people regard "home" as where they live and are making a life, or where they were born but don't live, or where their parents come from.

Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Is there any audio available for this interview? Prepared to take it back if this was an on-the-spot interview, but it smacks of 'constructed press release' to me.'" "I'll be playing for the country I call home" www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1813 (AV, just for you ) Personally, I don't care if people regard "home" as where they live and are making a life, or where they were born but don't live, or where their parents come from.

Its a disgrace, international RL is a laughing stock, this would never happen in union!

^ Haha.


Personally, from a selfish point of view, I don't want him playing for England. Mainly because I don't want him getting injured and effecting his career at Cas!

If Rangi wants to wait the allotted time, fully apply to become a British citizen, opt out of all future exile games and reject any possible Kiwi call ups then it'll be fine by me!

Oh dear, Toulouse.

When we compare other sports (first why?) and secondly how many of these players featured AGAINST their 'new' nation within the same year? (banned in NRL).

Oh and what another great franchise success story btw. Great way to end the first period

I really am speechless, i mentioned this on the Dale Cherry-Evans thread as a tongue in cheek comment. Can't believe it has happened.

I was going to try presuade my 6 mates to buy wembley tickets the the 4N finals tickets this year as i was looking forward at seeing some of our young stars a test match. Won't be getting any now.

All these comments "well cricket, RU do it blah blah blah"

I wonder if you would agree if Gareth Ellis, Sam Burgess, George Burgess and James Graham suddenyl decided they wanted to represent OZ.

<bloody immigrants comimg over here and taking all our jobs>?

Dey durba durrs!

I don't agree with the whole situation - I think you should select a country when you start your career and stick to it, but we might as well use it to our advantage while everyone else does.

But none of these players can be said to be true products of the English game any-more than Chase can. If you take your puritanical attitude to its logical conclusion, none of these players should be included. I take a different, more pragmatic approach, and look forward seeing these players representing England. Far more than some English born and trained residents, who actually have worn the shirt. I find it inconsistent to argue for Reid and Widdop's inclusion in the England squad and be against Chase.

I'd love to see Chase pulling on an England shirt against the Kiwi's and Widdop and Reid against the Aussies. I bet they'd all give everything they had.

Yea clearly similar