Todd Carney's off field behaviour will let him down though. IMO Hodgson will take a bit of time to adapt but they will come good at the end.

1. Leeds
2. Saints
3. Wire
4. Wigan
5. Rovers


6. Catalan
7. Bradford
8. Hudds
9. Hull
10. Quins
11. Cas
12. Wakey
13. Celtic
14. Salford

Nothing wrong with a bit of optimism.

After this World Cup debacle does it matter?

The SL clubs will continue as before in their narrow minded me me me attitude at the expense of everything else, complain that no one is interested in turning up through the turnstiles and that we are improving year on year to be comparable to the Toyota Cup(deliberate point) in Australia.

All that SL will do in the next 2 years and a bit is look at getting a franchise at all costs and sod the wider picture and paying lip service to development ( franchise rules included)

The game will continue to believe that it can the Aussies a run for their (ours!!! ) money and the next set of tests will be as before.

We can't compete at test level and no one is interested especially in Aus (15500 for a World Cup Semi in the biggest market proves that).

But lets keep the rose tinted glasses on, the glass more than 1/2 full and know that we are better skilled than the Aussies cos the game keep telling us it is so.


The emperors new clothes comes to mind.


Oh the top 6 will be as previous years with the normal 4 (Bulls, Rhinos, Saints, Wigan) plus a couple from Wire, Hull, and possibly KR and Giants

Sadly I believe the Catalan was a blip (nice though it was)

The fact the top 4 is a practically given is a sad sad indictment of the game

It's interesting that your 'practically given' top four have not occupied all the top four places in SL since 2003.

How much deviation has there been and then apply to the top 6 but your point since 2003 is noted.

And of course all this means we have a very intensive competition and can produce teams for tests that compete and regularly wallop the Aussies.

Sorry for not seeing the obvious.

Right, so because the national team performed poorly we should just give up playing domestic RL altogether.

Please explain your correlation.

I can't see what you are implying from my post

Sorry for not getting it.

Yes. It does. Why would a poor performance by the National team mean domestic results are no longer important?

The usual lot will battle out the play offs apart from Rovers taking the place of Catalans.
Also I think Rovers will be pumped for the Challenge Cup and with a bit of luck in the draw will lift the challenge cup.
Hull Fc will struggle and do battle with salford/celtic for the wooden spoon.

Your obviously bound to say that. With the $h!t you come out with!

I am hazzarding a guess that you are a Hull KR fan

Leeds
Saint Helens
Warrington
Hull (If we keep injury free)
Catalans
Wigan
Huddersfield
Bradford
Rovers
Castleford
Quins
Wakefield
Salford
Celtic

Now I understand what you are getting at.

Thanks for the clarification.

I think it's more of a misunderstanding between what I thought I wrote and what you think I wrote meant and yes it can be interpreted both ways I suppose.

Of course domestic RL counts

Leeds
Celtic
Salford
Castleford
Huddersfield
Wakefield
Harlequins
Catalans
Hull FC
Warrington
Wigan
Bradford
Saints
Hull KR

Wow. Your comprehension skills are really poor, aren't they? It's almost as though you're a bot programmed to recognise a word/phrase and then to write a stock 'response', as often as not completely unrelated to the content of the original comment.

My point was that, despite your assertion that the 'top four' are virtually nailed on, they haven't actually finished in those positions for a (relatively) long time, suggesting those positions aren't quite as easy to predict as you assume. I made no mention of the strength of the competition, the strength of the international team or the strength of anything else, apart from your particularly weak argument.

With Crusaders winning the Grand Final with a 60 yard Tony Duggan try. I can see it now.

Celtic v Salford, grand final for 2 years in a row. But in different leagues

no doubt you will be doing the pumping



havn't seen anything in rovers signings that will improve them next season, only fozzard adds a little extra, providing he stays injury free

take away the SC deductions and they finished top 4 in 2007, and three of those four have finished top 4 in every season of SL,

only 5 clubs have contested a grandfinal, and only four have contested more than 1, and those 4 have contested every single GF bar 2006, when the other club, Hull made their one and only GF

its a pretty damning indictment of how competitive SL is

No i am a Hull fan.

A deluded Hull KR fan!

That rich coming from someone deluded enough to think Hull can rise from 11th to 4th!