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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"what do you think ablett will get, for hitting briers in the face.
you know, since you watched the replay and saw that child was like 3 feet away?'"
When did that happen?
I saw Ablett grab Briers' collar and pull him to the ground via that but not what you describe.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Trivial misdemeanor, Briers deliberately and with malice punched another player without any provocation whatsoever, not only that but the recipient of Briers common assault wasn't even facing him.
Briers is a cowardly, snidy nonce and I hope he gets what is coming to him. In this situation it matters not that he didn't knock out his victim or do him any harm, that's irrelevant. What if he had? What IF he had caught Ablett or whomever on the side of the temple, we all know what kind of damage that and strikes to the head can do hence we outlaw it in all sports other than boxing/full contact martial arts etc..
But yeah, attempting to hurt someone with the potential to do lasting, permanent damage to someone is a trivial misdemeanor...
Whilst Briers produces fantastic play he also is prone to crappy outbursts like this, similar to Chase in fact. It is these cowardly acts that need to be highlighted and punished appropriately because it sends out completely the wrong message to say it is acceptable & shouldn't be punished which so far is the case. Given that even the commentators were saying when should a Leeds player get in a punch (as have fans on here) as the ref isn't going to punish it..you clearly don't get it do you.'"
Some stupid and pathetic posts o this thread from people who mistakenly class themselves as adults, but this one just about takes the biscuit. Some on here really need to take a good look at themselves and grow up. I'm amazed that the mods haven't stepped in by now.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"what do you think ablett will get, for hitting briers in the face.
you know, since you watched the replay and saw that child was like 3 feet away?'"
If Ablett had caught Briers on the face I'm sure he would have done one of his dying swan acts rather than jump up and lose control as he did.
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| he did catch him in the face...not by much but the first contact was with his face.
Maybe Jon Wells should have used his super zoom to get the full 'catch him in the face first' effect.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"If Ablett had caught Briers on the face I'm sure he would have done one of his dying swan acts rather than jump up and lose control as he did.'"
he did do a dying swan act, watch it again briers face is a picture.
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| Quote ="christopher"he did do a dying swan act, watch it again briers face is a picture.'"
His dying swan act in the grand final was better, again caused by Ablett
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"what do you think ablett will get, for hitting briers in the face.
you know, since you watched the replay and saw that child was like 3 feet away?'"
Ablett didn't hit him in the face. He grabbed at him with an outstretched arm & scragged him like a rag doll.
if you watch earlier in the game, Ablett is targeting Briers and gets a couple of totally legitimate shots on him.
Briers didn't like it & reacted the way he did to being thrown around.
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| Quote ="BiffasBoys"Ablett didn't hit him in the face. He grabbed at him with an outstretched arm & scragged him like a rag doll.
if you watch earlier in the game, Ablett is targeting Briers and gets a couple of totally legitimate shots on him.
Briers didn't like it & reacted the way he did to being thrown around.'"
Spot on.
When watching the game you could see that Leeds did really well to put pressure on Briers and he seemed to be getting more and more frustrated by this and eventually lost it for a few seconds by punching Ablett when his back was turned.
No half-back likes to be put under pressure like that and Briers should of walked for the way he reacted.
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| Just out of interest has anyone seen Ryan Bailey ever square up to another forward? To my recollection he often only has a dig at the backs, the smaller the better.
Bring back the biff indeed.
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| All the talk about grade E offences is a bit OTT IMO.
Briers should get a 1 game ban and then we can move on. Unfortunately he can use his EGP (I've never agreed with this rule) and won't get banned. This is why the disciplinary is unfit for purpose.
Child's couldn't send Briers to the sin bin as I remember Cummings saying you couldn't send a player to the sin bin for foul play.
There's been far less given reds this year. It was a nasty cheap shot by briers when a players back is turned. The fact Abletts back was turned is why I think Briers was lucky not to walk.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Just out of interest has anyone seen Ryan Bailey ever square up to another forward? To my recollection he often only has a dig at the backs, the smaller the better.
Bring back the biff indeed.'"
Congratulations on bringing everyone's favourite pantomime villain into it. Bailey has squared up to plenty of forwards over the years, what I've never seen him do, that I can recall at any rate, is sucker punch someone.
There's a huge difference between going toe to toe and punching someone who has their back turned and is therefore unable to defend themselves - it's this that elevates Briers indiscretion to 3 match ban territory for me. Child should also effectively see a 3 match ban for making such a fundamental error, I pity any team that has to suffer him again this season.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Just out of interest has anyone seen Ryan Bailey ever square up to another forward? To my recollection he often only has a dig at the backs, the smaller the better..'"
Playoff game at Knowsley Road. Sat Fa'asavalu on his backside, then ran 20 yards sideways on his next carry just to go straight at a wound-up James Graham.
Still, inconvenient facts never did influence those so keen to label Bailey a coward. You wonder what it is that marks Bailey out from other well-known poophouses down the years who didn't get half as much stick - the likes of Paul Davidson, James Graham, Paul Sculthorpe, Danny Williams (ex London and Melbourne, not the Salford one) for example?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"What I get is that week after week I hear fans complaining that much of the regular season lacks intensity to a point where many claim to be on the point of deserting a sport some of them have watched for decades. Unsurprising where the players are now terrified of losing their cool, even for a moment.
Briers' punch was a cheap shot but a life-threatening act? Get real.'"
If you don't understand the difference between "intensity" and taking a cheap shot at someone's head while their back is half-turned, I fear rugby league isn't the sport for you.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Playoff game at Knowsley Road. Sat Fa'asavalu on his backside, then ran 20 yards sideways on his next carry just to go straight at a wound-up James Graham.
Still, inconvenient facts never did influence those so keen to label Bailey a coward. You wonder what it is that marks Bailey out from other well-known poophouses down the years who didn't get half as much stick - the likes of Paul Davidson, James Graham, Paul Sculthorpe, Danny Williams (ex London and Melbourne, not the Salford one) for example?'"
I'd believe that if it wasn't on youtube
He runs 20 yards sideways alright...to avoid Graham
Saints v Leeds just the biff on YT, the guys a coward in RL terms.
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| No, cowards sit behind their keyboards calling players they could never hope to measure up to "cowards".
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"All the talk about grade E offences is a bit OTT IMO.
Briers should get a 1 game ban and then we can move on. Unfortunately he can use his EGP (I've never agreed with this rule) and won't get banned. This is why the disciplinary is unfit for purpose.
Child's couldn't send Briers to the sin bin as I remember Cummings saying you couldn't send a player to the sin bin for foul play.
There's been far less given reds this year. It was a nasty cheap shot by briers when a players back is turned. The fact Abletts back was turned is why I think Briers was lucky not to walk.'"
The guidelines for punching don't cover what Briers did. if any do it's punching, repeated, aggressive or violent C-D or E which is sustained, repeated violent & aggressive.
It wasn't reaction to an opponent, Ablett didn't provoke him.
It wasn't self defence.
It wasn't one on one because Ablett had his back turned & wasn't throwing any punches
It's covered by intentional striking with hand arm or shoulder & that carries a D-E grading.
If he doesn't miss at least 1 game the disciplinary will be in disrepute.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Playoff game at Knowsley Road. [uSat Fa'asavalu on his backside[/u, then ran 20 yards sideways on his next carry just to go straight at a wound-up James Graham'"
With a shoulder charge to the head...
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Playoff game at Knowsley Road. Sat Fa'asavalu on his backside, then ran 20 yards sideways on his next carry just to go straight at a wound-up James Graham.
Still, inconvenient facts never did influence those so keen to label Bailey a coward. You wonder what it is that marks Bailey out from other well-known poophouses down the years who didn't get half as much stick - the likes of Paul Davidson, James Graham, Paul Sculthorpe, Danny Williams (ex London and Melbourne, not the Salford one) for example?'"
If people actually watched bailey when there's no fuss going on they'd see some of the quality things he actually does. his reputation goes before him, as it would have if he'd done a Briers.
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| Life imprisonment and a sine die ban for Briers with no hope of parole. Worst act of thuggery ever on an innocent butter-wouldn't-melt Rhinos player.
Fact. End of.
Etc.
WHINOOOOOOOOS!
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| Quote ="BiffasBoys"The guidelines for punching don't cover what Briers did. if any do it's punching, repeated, aggressive or violent C-D or E which is sustained, repeated violent & aggressive.
It wasn't reaction to an opponent, Ablett didn't provoke him.
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What did Ablett say?
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| Quote ="BiffasBoys"The guidelines for punching don't cover what Briers did. if any do it's punching, repeated, aggressive or violent C-D or E which is sustained, repeated violent & aggressive.
It wasn't reaction to an opponent, Ablett didn't provoke him.
It wasn't self defence.
It wasn't one on one because Ablett had his back turned & wasn't throwing any punches
It's covered by intentional striking with hand arm or shoulder & that carries a D-E grading.
If he doesn't miss at least 1 game the disciplinary will be in disrepute.'"
you're very entertaining..I can almost see the foam forming at the side of your mouth.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"icon_lol.gif I'd believe that if it wasn't on youtube
He runs 20 yards sideways alright...to avoid Graham
Saints v Leeds just the biff on YT, the guys a coward in RL terms.'" .
Let me get this right, James Graham is stood 20 yards to Bailey's right. Bailey receives the ball, he could run blind or he could run straight. But no, he runs right towards where Graham is.
In your mind this shows him running away from James Graham?
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| One of Baileys finest acts on the field came at the end of a challenge cup final annihilation at the hands of Warrington when he tried to put 'ickle Chris Riley in hospital with 10 seconds to go...class act. Think it was 2011.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"No, cowards sit behind their keyboards calling players they could never hope to measure up to "cowards".'"
Read my post it's the reason I stated "in RL terms" the reason I wrote that was to negate your obvious reply, I played RL myself, knee injurys, a busted shoulder, broken jaw and broken finger putting aside the numerous concussions I've had(an obvious come back for you there). I also played 2nd row.
Now my talent is limited but I'd gladly put my boots on and play against him, I don't doubt he has talent, if he didn't he wouldn't be in a champion team but he does avoid the big boys when the going gets tough, proven many a times.
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| Bailey did it again on Saturday, was going to start having a pop then realised it was Gaz Carvell.
Put it this way he 'picks his fights'.
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