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| Quote ="Live Love Laugh"Not often I agree with an FC fan but here other than the order of the top 8 I can't see it involving any of the 9-14 clubs. Obviously Salford will more than disagree but as the Dr openly states, he's only been in the game a year so doesn't know everything yet!
IMO Rovers have possibly the best pack but the likelihood of them not being at Red Hall every week is slim! If we can keep the first choice pack on the pitch I have no doubt we can trouble the top 6 but 7th or 8th with a good run in the playoffs isn't such a bad place to come with so many new recruits.
Our halves haven't yet played together but Keating seems to have a very good kicking game and I'm looking forward to seeing him on the dry ground. Burns came good last year when Dobbo wasn't running the show, he came out of his shell a little and we got a good idea as to what he can do when given the ball more. I'm more than happy with them leading the pack around the field.
Welham is a very good centre who's had a couple of years bad luck. Charlie and Hodgson two very good try scorers with Omari for when we need some speed out there. A big question over Gleeson but if he plays to his potential I think he could be a solid centre although I'd like to see more of Liam Salter. Now as for Greg Eden he's got to be one of the brightest talents in the English game right now.
It is good that many people have written the Robins off but I can't help but think we will ruffle a few feathers along our way. We will lose our fair share of games but this is our best squad to date and too many people over rated Dobson and shouldn't read too much in to his departure causing us too much trouble.'"
Can't disagree with much of that. I do feel though that if Welham has another season of injury, you'd be better off offloading him, you cant afford to carry players no matter how good they can be. I suppose the same applies to Gleeson.
I don't think there's much at all between Hull and Rovers or Catalan.
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| Quote ="Live Love Laugh"I really can't see how you can say Langley is done? Give the game last Sunday a watch, he was a rock, defended very well and while his hit ups are nothing special I would still rather have him than say Rich Whiting!'"
That I can disagree with. Langley is miles behind Whiting. Just miles! Langley will defend well and cart the ball up, Whiting does so much more. Not wanting this to sound like a Whiting love in, but Hull are a much poorer team when he isn't in it.
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| Quote ="Live Love Laugh"I didn't mean in the league I meant in that area of the league. I watched the derby friendly on Hullkr.tv and I would argue that Poore would fit well in to most SL top 6 sides, he is big, aggressive and not afraid to put his body on the line.
You mention our defence being weak out wide, well that has been addressed. Keating is a much better defender than Dobson while Burns was solid last season too. With a good back row looking after the outside backs I think it will knit in well. Hodgson and Cockayne are pretty good defenders although Cockayne can be caught out of position now and then. I expect Sandercock will improve that part of his game.
Our issues in the past few years have been down the middle, letting teams get a roll on and not being able to recover from it. The size of our pack should help in that area. The Walker brothers are big lads, Cox has been a SL regular for a year or so now and looks the part. James Green could certainly be a regular come the end of the year, one of the biggest (in size) youngsters since the Burgess boys.
I really can't see how you can say Langley is done? Give the game last Sunday a watch, he was a rock, defended very well and while his hit ups are nothing special I would still rather have him than say Rich Whiting!
You seem to dismiss the likes of Larroyer, Horne, the Walker bro's and even failed to mention Lovegrove. Very risky when all of them are big lads who each have dangerous aspects to their game. Individually they might not be world beaters but in a side that has the likes of Costigan, Langley, Weyman, Poore and Hodgson, they are certainly going to be good support. Injuries have hampered us over the past few years but with this kind of back up I can't see one or two injuries making much of a difference to our game plans. It means we don't have to rely on the likes of Paterson, Dobson and Newton...etc.'"
I went on Sunday, and had to ask if Langley was even playing. I agree about Poore he could well play for a top 5 club but he isn't great. That said I would take him at Hull. As for Langley over Whiting you're welcome to him. Whitings a fantastic player.
You certainly have a lot of big players, I was shocked at how big James Green is. He's huge! The Walker brothers are big lads too. Props is the strong postion for you but don't rate your back row there all grafters barring Cox who I don't rate too highly regardless. Lovegrove can't be held in high regard even by Sandercock as he was apparently offering him to Wakefield. Another who is poor in defence.
Your pack is what Hulls used to be, a pack full of workhorses with the odd impact player ala Manu/Cox.
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| Millwards prediction!
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9137865/wolves-and-saints-to-dominate[/url
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| Quote ="brearley84"Millwards prediction!
[urlhttp://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9137865/wolves-and-saints-to-dominate[/url'"
Shocker Ian Millward ruling out Wigan and even more laughable Wigan over Achieved last season . People keep saying wigan don't have the superstars but are just a consistent team and very well coached, ok so how come every season teams keep poaching our players?
When was the last time he predicated anything right?
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| Catalans have one of the best centre pairings in Super League with Ben Pomeroy joining Vincent Duport. A big power combo. First choice wingers will be Darryl Millard and Michael Oldfield, with Vaccari and Cardace in reserve. If Scott Dureau can fire this year as well as he did in 2012 then expect the Catalans backs to tear up the opposition.
That is why Catalans will be challenging for silverware this year.
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| Quote ="dubairl"Shocker Ian Millward ruling out Wigan and even more laughable Wigan over Achieved last season
. People keep saying wigan don't have the superstars but are just a consistent team and very well coached, ok so how come every season teams keep poaching our players?
When was the last time he predicated anything right?'"
I think they did no one expected them to win both cups, and during the season it didn't look like they would.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Catalans have one of the best centre pairings in Super League with Ben Pomeroy joining Vincent Duport. A big power combo. First choice wingers will be Darryl Millard and Michael Oldfield, with Vaccari and Cardace in reserve. If Scott Dureau can fire this year as well as he did in 2012 then expect the Catalans backs to tear up the opposition.
That is why Catalans will be challenging for silverware this year.'"
If the game was based solely on the quality of the 3/4 line, Leeds would walk it. Unfortunately/ fortunately, there are 9 other players on the pitch who will also have a say in the matter.
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| Quote ="broadybull87"I think they did no one expected them to win both cups, and during the season it didn't look like they would.'"
really? wigan was 6 points clear at the top of the league before the majority of the squad got injured. And when it truly mattered they beat all the top clubs. Didn't wigan also have the biggest points difference? when Wigan had the first team out they was defiantly the best team.
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| Simple answer is no they didn't, wire did. You have just answered the question, at the start of the season they along with 2-3 other clubs could have been there but when they started to get injuries they slipped and a know a few Wigan fans, deep down they wanted to win it all but not many thought they really would, you don't don't like anyone saying things that don't agree with Wigan do you, now they have lost Tomkins one players does not make a team and I cannot stand him, not because he plays for Wigan even though I hate them to, there was just something smarmy about his aura and the bandwagon.
They are big shoes to fill and when he was missing last year you did struggle, I'm not criticism anything bye they way just want to put a point across, towards the end of the season hardly any thought they would win both never mind beat wire in the final I was surprised they won both, maybe not the CC as hull were pants but to beat wire in the SL who I had tipped to win and got short odds on.
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| Quote ="broadybull87"Simple answer is no they didn't, wire did. You have just answered the question, at the start of the season they along with 2-3 other clubs could have been there but when they started to get injuries they slipped and a know a few Wigan fans, deep down they wanted to win it all but not many thought they really would, you don't don't like anyone saying things that don't agree with Wigan do you, now they have lost Tomkins one players does not make a team and I cannot stand him, not because he plays for Wigan even though I hate them to, there was just something smarmy about his aura and the bandwagon.
They are big shoes to fill and when he was missing last year you did struggle, I'm not criticism anything bye they way just want to put a point across, towards the end of the season hardly any thought they would win both never mind beat wire in the final I was surprised they won both, maybe not the CC as hull were pants but to beat wire in the SL who I had tipped to win and got short odds on.'"
i said before last season more than once that we will be stronger and we would win silverware so i don't really care what other fans thought are chances were. shaun Wane and all the players said they will be aiming to win the grand final and they did. What did Wire do? We had already won the challenge cup and i believe we was still top of the league by a distance. I don't expect saints, leeds or warrington fans to say they reckon wigan will the grand final but that doesn't mean we over achieved just because other fans think they are experts on Wigan players.
Also what does Sam Tomkins have to do with the price of fish? but your right when he got injured we did struggle as the whole set up was to capitalize on Tomkins ability and Hampshire wasn't up to the task as he was still only 18. but are you seriously saying Matty bowen is up to it? if not the rest of the teams with there fullbacks are screwed.
We also struggled a lot more with out o'loughlin.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"I went on Sunday, and had to ask if Langley was even playing. I agree about Poore he could well play for a top 5 club but he isn't great. That said I would take him at Hull. As for Langley over Whiting
you're welcome to him. Whitings a fantastic player.
You certainly have a lot of big players, I was shocked at how big James Green is. He's huge! The Walker brothers are big lads too. Props is the strong postion for you but don't rate your back row there all grafters barring Cox who I don't rate too highly regardless. Lovegrove can't be held in high regard even by Sandercock as he was apparently offering him to Wakefield. Another who is poor in defence.
Your pack is what Hulls used to be, a pack full of workhorses with the odd impact player ala Manu/Cox.'"
Per the Langley comment, I heard similar from a Rovers fan who said that he didn't think Langley was even on the pitch. For this reason I watched closely on the video and he was in a lot of tackles and looked very busy. I fear his downfall is that he shaved his head and now just fits in with the likes of Weyman, Lovegrove and anyone else that chooses to have a short haircut!
Whiting to me is what Netherton is to us. Solid, reliable, does the graft but is not going to make the mouth water or sell tickets on the basis that he is playing!
Anyway I couldn't see either Hull team not making the 8 but the league does look stronger for 2014 and a run of bad officiating decisions and injuries like HKR got last year could certainly push them down in to 9th or even 10th. I can't see that happening but I also might be underestimating clubs like Bradford, Widnes and Salford.
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| Quote ="dubairl"Also what does Sam Tomkins have to do with the price of fish? but your right when he got injured we did struggle as the whole set up was to capitalize on Tomkins ability and Hampshire wasn't up to the task as he was still only 18. but are you seriously saying Matty bowen is up to it? if not the rest of the teams with there fullbacks are screwed.
We also struggled a lot more with out o'loughlin.'"
Bowen will have his games chosen for him and be rotated with Hampshire. Whichever way you look at it, Tomkins is a huge loss. I just can't see Wigan winning it this season. Richards, Tomkins and Hanson are three big players for you guys.
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| I think we may struggle in the forwards but i think the backs will be fine. I reckon we will win the league leader shield and maybe the challenge cup but i don't think we will win the grand final.
Im really looking forward to this season as i believe all the newbies have great promise and i can't wait too see who fulfills it.
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| Quote ="Live Love Laugh"Per the Langley comment, I heard similar from a Rovers fan who said that he didn't think Langley was even on the pitch. For this reason I watched closely on the video and he was in a lot of tackles and looked very busy. I fear his downfall is that he shaved his head and now just fits in with the likes of Weyman, Lovegrove and anyone else that chooses to have a short haircut!
Whiting to me is what Netherton is to us. Solid, reliable, does the graft but is not going to make the mouth water or sell tickets on the basis that he is playing!
Anyway I couldn't see either Hull team not making the 8 but the league does look stronger for 2014 and a run of bad officiating decisions and injuries like HKR got last year could certainly push them down in to 9th or even 10th. I can't see that happening but I also might be underestimating clubs like Bradford, Widnes and Salford.'"
Your pack is certainly up there with the best in the league I just think your back row lets it down with no real punch imo. Like I said keep Weyman fit and he'll be really good for you.
As for Whiting, most Hull fans would have him as first name on the team sheet each week. Has any other player in super league ever played in every position? I doubt it. He's not going to race 80 metres (although we did see it once away to Wakey) each week. But he does everything right with 100% commitment. Do under rated by opposition fans.
Not much between both clubs but I feel we're a little better than you and place one position above you in the league.
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| Quote ="dubairl"i said before last season more than once that we will be stronger and we would win silverware so [ii don't really care what other fans thought are chances were[/i.'"
So why get upset about a comment from Ian Millward made more in his role as a betting pundit than an RL commentator?
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| I thought it was a good match up in the pack between Hull and Rovers on Sunday. Rovers bossed the field position when both first choice packs were on but that was mostly down to Hull's handling errors. We fronted in well on our line and both packs really got stuck in to each other.
I actually think that rather than Paea, Feka, Poore and Weyman, the guys to watch in those packs are Chris Green and Josh Bowden for Hull, and James Green and Jordan Cox for Rovers. All 4 are potentially future internationals imo, and I think they will all have big seasons.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Your pack is certainly up there with the best in the league I just think your back row lets it down with no real punch imo. Like I said keep Weyman fit and he'll be really good for you.
As for Whiting, most Hull fans would have him as first name on the team sheet each week. Has any other player in super league ever played in every position? I doubt it. He's not going to race 80 metres (although we did see it once away to Wakey) each week. But he does everything right with 100% commitment. Do under rated by opposition fans.
Not much between both clubs but I feel we're a little better than you and place one position above you in the league.'"
I don't doubt any Hull fan would say their arch rivals will come above them in the league. I know Rovers fans who thought after the friendly performance at the weekend Hull would struggle this season! Personally I agree, the two Hull clubs are the best on paper to finish 7th and 8th but in what order I do not know or hazard a guess at.
What I do disagree with but appreciate you are entitled to your own opinion is our back row. Costigan, Larroyer and Langley might not be as flashy as Newton or Paterson but I do not think they need to be as we will be playing a different game plan.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"If the game was based solely on the quality of the 3/4 line, Leeds would walk it. Unfortunately/ fortunately, there are 9 other players on the pitch who will also have a say in the matter.'"
I don't disagree with you.
However Catalans have their bases covered elsewhere, especially in the forwards, with only the performance of the halves a big question mark (Scott Dureau after his illness, and Leon Pryce in general).
That is why I conditioned my optimistic prediction for Catalans on Scott Dureau recapturing his 2012 form.
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| Here follows the results of the tried and tested scrunched up paper tombola:
1. London
2. Wakefield
3. Hull FC
4. Wigan
5. Salford
6. Hull KR
7. Warrington
8. St Helens
9. Bradford
10. Castleford
11. Catalan
12. Widnes
13. Leeds
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You read it here first.
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Richards, Tomkins and Hanson are three big players for you guys.'"
Fair point but before last season we lost Carmont, Finch, Leuluai, Hock, Lima and Fielden. We're more than well-prepared in replacing players.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"Here follows the results of the tried and tested scrunched up paper tombola:
1. London
2. Wakefield
3. Hull FC
4. Wigan
5. Salford
6. Hull KR
7. Warrington
8. St Helens
9. Bradford
10. Castleford
11. Catalan
12. Widnes
13. Leeds
14. Huddersfield
You read it here first.'"
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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Hull will finish anywhere between 6-8 I think. Too light in the forwards to get any higher than that. Feka and Paea on the pitch at the same time is great, but take them off and we struggle. Backline looks strong from 1-5, even with the loss of Briscoe. Talanoa could be a real find.
Rankin, the Aussie schoolboy 6 that we've signed looks promising too, but who do we play with him?
Hooking wise I'm more than happy with Houghton and Heremaia.
Looking at other teams its difficult to predict really. Wigan have lost Tomkins, Warrington have lost a front row and Briers, Huddersfield haven't really lost anybody, saints have recruited the best of any team on paper and I always write Leeds off only for them to prove me wrong.
Ill go:
1 Huddersfield
2 Saints
3 Wigan
4 Warrington
5 Leeds
6 Catalan
7 Hull
8 Hull KR
9 Salford
10 Bradford
11 Widnes
12 Wakefield
=#FF000013 Castleford
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