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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Yes,youre right,were bl00dy good at it.
We arent breaking any rules.
And isnt it quite ironic that it was the RFL that suggested Stosic play for Serbia,to get round the rules.
So please dont pity us.'"
I do not pity you. The need for 10/11 such players is pathetic. That you take 'pleasure' in it is no surprise.
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| Quote ="TRB"Of course it does dear!
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| Quote ="Richard1"As a follower of Wakefield yes iam not happy at the amount of imports we have next season. But this is not just a Wakefield thing. All clubs in SL show similar symptoms tbh and it needs to be sorted. For example i couldnt understand why Ainscough of Wigan was dropped after a very good start of the season for a second rate Aussie in Phelps. Would never happen in the NRL. I feel the quality in SL has been slipping for a few years now (from an already average standard to begin with). Dont just wave the sick at Wakefield just because you dont particularly like us because it does come across as being a little petty.'"
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Yes,youre right,were bl00dy good at it.
We arent breaking any rules.
And isnt it quite ironic that it was the RFL that suggested Stosic play for Serbia,to get round the rules.
So please dont pity us.'"
I thought he was Macedonian?
you may not be breaking any rules, but searching for ways to avoid giving british youth a chance is shameful any way you look at it
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"=redI do not pity you. The need for 10/11 such players is =redpathetic. That you take 'pleasure' in it is no surprise.
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With the greatest of respect,do not use words if you dont understand their meaning.
Just because i think Wakefield are good at finding a way to fit players into the squad,doesnt mean i take pleasure in it.Im purely making an observation,which is undeniably true.
I could also say,Wakey are bl00dy good at getting themselves into a financial hole,which again is true,doesnt mean i take pleasure in it.
I have commented earlier that i think Wakey have far too many overseas players and the game as a whole has far too many.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I thought he was Macedonian?
you may not be breaking any rules, but searching for ways to avoid giving british youth a chance is shameful any way you look at it'"
He is /or his grandad or something,but the RFL suggested Serbia.Something to do with the old Yugoslavia.
ive already commented that i think Wakey have too many overseas players.
My point is,how keen and eager are the RFL to cut down on players from overseas when they suggest ways around the rules.
Wakey have far too many,the game has far too many,but as soon as the game tried to cut down the amount,clubs went looking for ways around it and asking for exemptions,players threatening legal action etc.........
Would love to see the day when clubs only have max 2/3 top class overseas players.
Unfortunately doubt i will live to see it!!!
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"He is /or his grandad or something,but the RFL suggested Serbia.Something to do with the old Yugoslavia.
ive already commented that i think Wakey have too many overseas players.
My point is,how keen and eager are the RFL to cut down on players from overseas when they suggest ways around the rules.
Wakey have far too many,the game has far too many,but as soon as the game tried to cut down the amount,clubs went looking for ways around it and asking for exemptions,players threatening legal action etc.........
Would love to see the day when clubs only have max 2/3 top class overseas players.
Unfortunately doubt i will live to see it!!!'"
i agree, and wakefield are one of (if not the worst) example of this
however, the steps that would need to be taken for clubs only being allowed to have 2/3 overseas players (i personally think 4/5 is fine as a maximum) would mean some clubs would be have to suffer being crap for a while and their fans wouldnt accept that
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"i agree, and wakefield are one of (if not the worst) example of this
however, the steps that would need to be taken for clubs only being allowed to have 2/3 overseas players (i personally think 4/5 is fine as a maximum) would mean some clubs would be have to suffer being crap for a while and their fans wouldnt accept that'"
Really not sure who started the ball rolling with exemptions etc...
Simon Finnegan/Bradford -- maybe,then HKR started with Stanley Gene -- maybe.
If there is a desire for the national team to compete on a regular basis with Aus. at some point the fans,chairmen,sponsors etc.. are going to have to take a leap of faith.But there in lies the problem it appears few clubs would put country and the game before club.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Really not sure who started the ball rolling with exemptions etc...
Simon Finnegan/Bradford -- maybe,then HKR started with Stanley Gene -- maybe.
If there is a desire for the national team to compete on a regular basis with Aus. at some point the fans,chairmen,sponsors etc.. are going to have to take a leap of faith.But there in lies the problem it appears few clubs would put country and the game before club.'"
The Morrison brothers started it. you've signed one of them! Simon Finnegan was born in Warrington and is of irish decent.
All of this arguing is pointless anyway because you already have his replacement according to Wakies board - Paul Johnson is training and wearing Wakie kits in training and he's English.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"With the greatest of respect,do not use words if you dont understand their meaning.
Just because i think Wakefield are good at finding a way to fit players into the squad,doesnt mean i take pleasure in it.Im purely making an observation,which is undeniably true.
I could also say,Wakey are bl00dy good at getting themselves into a financial hole,which again is true,doesnt mean i take pleasure in it.
I have commented earlier that i think Wakey have far too many overseas players and the game as a whole has far too many.'"
Do not try and become the 'grammar / dictionary police' your posts show that you are not up to the job.
There is no evidence whatsoever that wakey are bl00dy good at it. If you think they are then you do not understand the RFL rules You are confusing wakey's pathetic policy of recruiting many 'exempt' overseas players with them being good at something.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Do not try and become the 'grammar / dictionary police' your posts show that you are not up to the job.
There is no evidence whatsoever that wakey are bl00dy good at it. If you think they are then you do not understand the RFL rules
You are confusing wakey's pathetic policy of recruiting many 'exempt' overseas players with them being good at something.'"
Oh dear,we are touchy,i simply pointed out that you contradict yourself.It would have been much easier to admit to your mistake.
Are Wakefield recruiting players outside of the rules?????
Which rules dont i understand????
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| Quote ="Wadski"The Morrison brothers started it. you've signed one of them! Simon Finnegan was born in Warrington and is of irish decent.
All of this arguing is pointless anyway because you already have his replacement according to Wakies board - Paul Johnson is training and wearing Wakie kits in training and he's English.'"
Morrison brothers??Sorry Wadski didnt even know Glen Morrison had a brother.
Do you mean Hendersons?
Who were born in Torquay.
Im still sure it was Finnegan that started it,as like Henderson brothers he was born in England,but didnt meet fed trained criteria.
If it was the Morrison clan,please accept my apologies.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Oh dear,we are touchy,i simply pointed out that you contradict yourself.It would have been much easier to admit to your mistake.
Are Wakefield recruiting players outside of the rules?????
Which rules dont i understand????'"
Not touchy at all. Your ignorance is all too familiar.
I have not said they are outside the rules. simply that having 10/11 non fed players and chasing a macedonian passport is pathetic for a Sl club of 10 years.
Also while a moron may think the application of simple RFL rules to the nth degree is being bl00dy good at something. It simply does not follow.
Anyone could think the proliferation of 2 year contracts at wakey + hanging onto 'exempt' overseas players is the strategy of a club running itself down til the end of the licence period.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Morrison brothers??Sorry Wadski didnt even know Glen Morrison had a brother.
Do you mean Hendersons?
Who were born in Torquay.
Im still sure it was Finnegan that started it,as like Henderson brothers he was born in England,but didnt meet fed trained criteria.
If it was the Morrison clan,please accept my apologies.'"
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There are different types of exemptions'. Only some relate to Brit born non fed trained. Others relate to non fed trained players who had completed a season in the UK prior to the 07 season. This later point being important when the rules moved to quota + non fed trained classifications. Do try and keep up there.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"'
There are different types of exemptions'. Only some relate to Brit born non fed trained. Others relate to non fed trained players who had completed a season in the UK prior to the 07 season. This later point being important when the rules moved to quota + non fed trained classifications. Do try and keep up there.
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Im simply trying to establish with Wadski whether it was Henderson or Finnegan that set the ball rolling.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Not touchy at all. Your ignorance is all too familiar.
=redBut now you resort to calling me ignorant
I have not said they are outside the rules. simply that having 10/11 non fed players and chasing a macedonian passport is pathetic for a Sl club of 10 years.
=redAnd i have agreed that 10/11 overseas players is far too many
Also while a moron may think the application of simple RFL rules to the nth degree is being bl00dy good at something. It simply does not follow.
=redNot sure,if you are suggesting im a moron.If you are,right back at you.
If your not,just for the record i am a mormon though.
Anyone could think the proliferation of 2 year contracts at wakey + hanging onto 'exempt' overseas players is the strategy of a club running itself down til the end of the licence period.
=redNo,not anyone,just you!!
=redBut now you are starting to open up a bit more.Its good to see that you are letting your true emotions come to the surface.Quite clearly you are getting more and more wound up.Chill girl
Your last comments seem to suggest(like many people do),that you have a vendetta against Wakefield and will take any opportunity to post negative comments about them.
Whatever Wakey did to you,get over it,life carries on.
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| Quote ="Wadski" Paul Johnson is training and wearing Wakie kits in training and he's English.'"
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
English pah. We are too cosmopolitan for that in Wakey we like to embrace all races, cultures and all nations the rest of you are just racist.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Simon Finnegan/Bradford -- maybe,then HKR started with Stanley Gene -- maybe.'"
See, I don't mind PNG or other smaller nations players getting a game over here, it's the Aussies who aren't good enough for the NRL which help no-one out.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Im simply trying to establish with Wadski whether it was Henderson or Finnegan that set the ball rolling.'"
Really, but you wrote:
"Simon Finnegan/Bradford -- maybe,then HKR started with Stanley Gene -- maybe"
Two seperate exemption types. Try not to confuse them.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat" However as a club, until we move in to a better stadium with better facilities we will find it hard to attract enough quality english players in order to remain competitive in the league,'"
That is TOTAL rubbish and you know it!!!
A good, well trained and coached team will play well in any stadium!!!
To be fair however it is one of the better excuses given as to why teams are not winning everything in sight
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT":snip:'"
I will add your toe curling attempt at amateur psychology to the list of non RL responses made by wakey fans. Implying that you can work out emotions and motivations from RL posts is dilusional Do carry on if you feel compelled to do so. But perhaps on a different forum?
Back to topic.
The licences were granted in early 08. (So the threat of annual relegation was removed).This has given clubs 2 rounds of recruitment to date. So there has been ample time to reduce non fed trained numbers. Wakey have chosen not to do so. Infact during 09 we saw 2 young prospects - Pitts and Bibb - farmed out and an NRL reserve grader was flown half way across the world to make.....5 SL appearances! Now they are after macedonian passports
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I will add your toe curling attempt at amateur psychology to the list of non RL responses made by wakey fans. Implying that you can work out emotions and motivations from RL posts is dilusional
Do carry on if you feel compelled to do so. But perhaps on a different forum?
Back to topic.
The licences were granted in early 08. (So the threat of annual relegation was removed).This has given clubs 2 rounds of recruitment to date. So there has been ample time to reduce non fed trained numbers. Wakey have chosen not to do so. Infact during 09 we saw 2 young prospects - Pitts and Bibb - farmed out and an NRL reserve grader was flown half way across the world to make.....5 SL appearances! Now they are after macedonian passports
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It would be interesting to here your comments' on the Stosic episode and also what are your thoughts' on Wakefield having 10 overseas players' on their books?
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| Quote ="chissitt"It would be interesting to here your comments' on the Stosic episode and also what are your thoughts' on Wakefield having 10 overseas players' on their books?'"
Careful chissitt, turfedout is picky on grammar. He may pick you up on misspellings and incorrect use of apostrophes.
Having so many overseas players at wakey is pathetic. I find it delightful.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Morrison brothers??Sorry Wadski didnt even know Glen Morrison had a brother.
Im still sure it was Finnegan that started it,as like Henderson brothers he was born in England,but didnt meet fed trained criteria.
If it was the Morrison clan,please accept my apologies.'"
I'm probably get confuddled again.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Careful chissitt, turfedout is picky on grammar. He may pick you up on misspellings and incorrect use of apostrophes.
Having so many overseas players at wakey is pathetic. I find it delightful.'" LOL can remember Chissit giving me a grammar lesson if memory serves, it was i before e unless after c. Oh how i laughed and so did the science teacher who fancied policies from other species no matter how ancient no matter what deficiencies or efficiencies but their conscience and the glacier society soon put a stop to it..
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