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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Who said anything about an argument?
You can debate a point or view just as much.'"
Away you go then
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| Quote ="Starbug"Away you go then'"
Like I clearly said, no point debating the point/view of how many SL clubs we should have with someone who can't even count how many we currently have
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Who said anything about an argument?
You can debate a point or view just as much.'"
Come along we wait with baited breath
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Like I clearly said, no point debating the point/view of how many SL clubs we should have with someone who can't even count how many we currently have
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Because you cant / dont have a viable opposite point of view , an old tactic long forgotten and abandoned by most
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Not even worth debating with someone who can't even tell the difference between 16 and 14.'"
His point is still a valid one
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| Quote ="Starbug"Because you cant / dont have a viable opposite point of view , an old tactic long forgotten and abandoned by most'"
I quite easily could. Debated with this poster on the 'Sinfield Golden Boot' thread and made him look silly enough times to last a year. He showed there that he has a pre-formed and closed mind opinion of the SL.
*I do like your tactic of accusing me of the thing that you are actually doing.........that's so cute
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"=#BF0000I quite easily could. Debated with this poster on the 'Sinfield Golden Boot' thread and made him look silly enough times to last a year. He showed there that he has a pre-formed and closed mind opinion of the SL.
*I do like your tactic of accusing me of the thing that you are actually doing.........that's so cute
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Well f***ing well DO IT you MORON
We are waiting
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I quite easily could. Debated with this poster on the 'Sinfield Golden Boot' thread and made him look silly enough times to last a year. He showed there that he has a pre-formed and closed mind opinion of the SL.
*I do like your tactic of accusing me of the thing that you are actually doing.........that's so cute
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Alas you have memory issues. I have yet to see you produce a coherent argument in any thread. I think my views on SL are quite accurate but hey why bother. I watched a terrific match tonight, it was not highly skilled (Tony Smith's words!) but I will not be entertained like that for several games. The players will not be stretched or have to perform high skill levels under pressure so we get beaten v Australia as we have for 50 years BUT hey no doubt you prefer mediocrity as long as the right team wins, beggar the sport.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Hull KR, Salford, Widnes all went down from SL but did they suffer? Maybe they benefitted.'"
In what way have these teams benefitted? Let's remember that these are the sort of clubs that would be demoted in this SL2 type idea you're hinting at.
Fylde Warrior's Dictionary
*Benefitting - Have a few years in SL before being dropped back to original level because they couldn't challenge the big boys.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"The players will not be stretched or have to perform high skill levels under pressure so we get beaten v Australia as we have for 50 years'"
If only we could get our players taking as many drugs as they do
Quote ="Starbug"Well f***ing well DO IT you MORON
We are waiting'"
Awwww, now now sunshine, stressful week at work was it? Marital issues? Kids giving you potty?
You are waiting? Sorry, don't jump to your commands. I could debate further but seen as it's wound you up so nicely me not doing it I think i'll hold fire some more
P.S. I await and expect laughable weak-ar$ed response along the lines of "you won't because you can't."
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| Quote ="Starbug"Yes they do , as feeder clubs to others
Look , you can twist it , turn it , bend it any way you want , they would still be feeder clubs , and nobody will be willing to pay to watch them'"
lower tier clubs have, and always will be feeder clubs. Its the same in every sport. Always has been, and always will be.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"In what way have these teams benefitted? Let's remember that these are the sort of clubs that would be demoted in this SL2 type idea you're hinting at.
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*Benefitting - Have a few years in SL before being dropped back to original level because they couldn't challenge the big boys.
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Let me see stabilising financially (access to KR accounts will show losses went silly in SL not in the Championship, developing players, fans enjoying victories and success.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Bear tonight showed why SL should be reduced in size. Wigan v Wire was a proper match. Sadly it is a rarity and we get too many none events.
If you cannot comprehend what elite sport is then so be it. Wigan v Wire markets this sport far better than a dozen walk over games ever will. We cannot produce that standard week in week out with the current number of teams. Why do we have the same number of clubs in our elite league as a cash / player rich NRL?
A second tier of lesser SL clubs would mean that such clubs are better protected against their own excesses. Hull KR, Salford, Widnes all went down from SL but did they suffer? Maybe they benefitted. Why should Leigh, Featherstone etc not play clubs of a similar standing, crowd followings week in week out. Are you telling me the Leighs and Featherstones would not benefit.
Far better than your cuckoo youth development scheme bear'"
A little tip for you my trolling friend. You need a little more subtlety, the thinking we had the same number of teams as the NRL, the use of HKR, Salford and Widnes as your examples of clubs being relegated and not suffering, your idea that HKR were sustainable before promotion, its all too obvious.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"A little tip for you my trolling friend. You need a little more subtlety, the thinking we had the same number of teams as the NRL, the use of HKR, Salford and Widnes as your examples of clubs being relegated and not suffering, your idea that HKR were sustainable before promotion, its all too obvious.'"
I wish I was a troll, it would be much easier encountering people who live on the net like yourself.
I will like everybody post something that is incorrect. It will be very occasionally (We did go to 14 when the NRL was 14 clubs did we not ). However, 99% of what I say I believe and it will be correct. I am not here to troll, to wind people up. I leave that to others like yourself.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA":3mpptxndlower tier clubs have, and always will be feeder clubs. Its the same in every sport. Always has been, and always will be.'" , these days it is probably much less so , as in truth we are more likely to ' fed ' by the SL clubs due to the wholesale ' hoovering ' up each area's junior talent
This however is a completely different scenario , and yes your proposal is different , but still completely unworkable , and unlikely to happen
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| Quote ="Starbug"Perhaps the wrong ' term ' , yes clubs like Leigh and other similar clubs have always ' fed ' their best players to the bigger ones [ although we used to get a transfer fee back in those days , these days it is probably much less so , as in truth we are more likely to ' fed ' by the SL clubs due to the wholesale ' hoovering ' up each area's junior talent
This however is a completely different scenario , and yes your proposal is different , but still completely unworkable , and unlikely to happen'"
Will the same clubs always be feeder clubs? Leigh as an example were the best team in British RL around 81/2. Barrow slightly later had an era when they were a top team. Halifax had a great but brief period under Chris Anderson. Feathertstone won a CC.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"(We did go to 14 when the NRL was 14 clubs did we not
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Still wrong. Is it that hard to look things up if you aren't sure? NRL hasn't had 14 teams since, what, 2001? And they really should've had 18 this year.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"I wish I was a troll, it would be much easier encountering people who live on the net like yourself.
I will like everybody post something that is incorrect. It will be very occasionally (We did go to 14 when the NRL was 14 clubs did we not
). However, 99% of what I say I believe and it will be correct. I am not here to troll, to wind people up. I leave that to others like yourself.'"
It may be what you believe but it clearly isnt correct. Maybe if you got your premise and examples correct your conclusions wouldnt be wrong as well?
But you are a troll, so you probably wont.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Perhaps the wrong ' term ' , yes clubs like Leigh and other similar clubs have always ' fed ' their best players to the bigger ones [ although we used to get a transfer fee back in those days , these days it is probably much less so , as in truth we are more likely to ' fed ' by the SL clubs due to the wholesale ' hoovering ' up each area's junior talent '" It isnt the wrong term. It is the correct term. You just dont like it because it goes against your argument. It is right and it is healthy and it is good that players play at a level which correlates with their ability and development. That will mean that the best players will play at the top level, players not quite good enough, or not quite there in their development will play in the leagues below. If they improve to a sufficient level they will move up leagues, if a player loses form or fitness and fall below that level they will drop a level. I dont see why you have a problem with that.
Quote This however is a completely different scenario , and yes your proposal is different , but still completely unworkable , and unlikely to happen'" there is nothing unworkable about it. It would be quite easy to administrate and would work. The issue would be convincing the 5/6 clubs who have got it right at the moment to give up the competitive advantage they have earned.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"It may be what you believe but it clearly isnt correct. Maybe if you got your premise and examples correct your conclusions wouldnt be wrong as well?
But you are a troll, so you probably wont.'"
My last post to you as you are clearly what you insult others with re labels. My posts are genuine and bar 1 mistake they are correct. You are the type of person that give internet forums a bad reputation. Respond or not I will not reply.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"My last post to you as you are clearly what you insult others with re labels. My posts are genuine and bar 1 mistake they are correct. You are the type of person that give internet forums a bad reputation. Respond or not I will not reply.'"
It isnt one mistake. if you werent a troll you would have gone and checked and realised you made quite a few errors. I even ppointed you toward them. But you didnt, because you were on a wind up and you already knew them to be wrong.
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| We are not Australian or American, we are British. Look at all the major sports in this country. All gobbling up the big sponsorships because people turn up and watch competitive sport. Oh and smokey dear boy ....... Nah i can't be bothered.
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