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| Quote ="gutterfax"dummy spit
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But still the truth , very similar to the one about the highly succesful licence application done by the Celtic Crusaders
What was it Jack Nicholson said in ' a few good men '
" you cant handle the truth "
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| Whatever happened to the inclusive, expansionist RL visionionaries of 1895. People who loved their sport and the people who loved it.
2010 see's the comedy double act known as 'Lewis n Wood' stumbling from one mighty cock up to the next, whilst taking every opportunity to weaken our sport in the process.
We have so much to sell and administrators, and poor ones, tasked with selling it.
Time for a clear out at the top, get rid of em all, and fill the positions with passionate people with a vision whose earnings are results based.
A well led, unified RL has so much to look forward to, lets start again and make it happen.
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| 1) your golden age - like all golden ages - never existed.
2) You seem to have confused this thread (about scholarships) and [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=467162this[/url thread
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| Quote ="tb"1) your golden age - like all golden ages - never existed.
2) You seem to have confused this thread (about scholarships) and [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=467162this[/url thread'"
It did exist, we are evidence today of the passion of a few and I wasnt confused.
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| Quote ="tb"1) your golden age - like all golden ages - never existed.
2) You seem to have confused this thread (about scholarships) and [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=467162this[/url thread'"
And yet you quoted this on the other thread
Quote How many semi-pro clubs want to be full time professional clubs (you know, forking out £50k a year to meet the minimum wage requirements of running an under18 squat, for instance)?'"
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| Quote ="J20"So we are likely to achieve what your boys are =#FF0000desperate for too and now it's a bad thing?'"
Not desperate for it at all thanks
You will go up , you will go up with my and many others best wishes
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not desperate for it at all thanks
You will go up , you will go up with my and many others best wishes'"
And though I like to wind up sometimes I do hope Leigh / Fax follow us in 2015! IMO we'll be back to P&R for that one or one after as hopefully they'll be 3/4 sides in Championship all meeting minimum criteria so we can then return to do rightfull way of doing things!
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| Quote ="J20"And though I like to wind up sometimes =#FF0000I do hope Leigh / Fax follow us in 2015! IMO we'll be back to P&R for that one or one after as hopefully they'll be 3/4 sides in Championship all meeting minimum criteria so we can then return to do rightfull way of doing things!
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Not happen unless somebody goes bust , and that I dont wish on anybody
The Championships are where we will remain
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| Cant see Championship clubs surviving at some stadia for another 3 years with nothing to play for, and that includes Leigh.
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| Why is winning the league "nothing to play for".
I just don't understand that attitude.
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| Quote ="bobm"Why is winning the league "nothing to play for".
I just don't understand that attitude.'"
Then you never will, but I hope you do one day.
If you ask a Leeds Utd fan what the dream is, the answer is to watch his team play at the top level.
Ask a rochdale fan the same question and it would probably be to stay in division 1.
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| Quote ="maurice"Then you never will, but I hope you do one day.
If you ask a Leeds Rhinos fan what the dream is, it's to win the competition they play in, even though there's no promotion to another competition as a result'"
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| I have you in the right locker, dont I
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| Featherstone Rovers coach Daryl Powell in today's RL&LE
Talking about fev running an academy and the RFL
" Its taken a little bit of time to get things in place , and the RFL make it difficult for Championship clubs "
"It's difficult because it cost a lot of money , and that needs to be looked at . But were being restricted by the financial constraints that are put on clubs "
"Were going to have to work exceptionally hard to make this work in the right way . Something needs to be put in place to allow clubs like us to develop young players . "
"There needs to be as many opportunities as possible for young players to work in a professional environment . They way I see it at the moment is that's being restricted .but it could be easier and should be easier . There can still be stringent rules in place over the duty of care and the quality of coaching and work that you put into players . But there has to be a different way that doesn't restrict clubs through cost ."
" I'm hoping that somewhere down the line the RFL will help all clubs to operate a seamless development pathway , and grow the number of people getting opportunities to play professional sport . "
Intersting stuff there
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On 19th August, Featherstone announced their scholarship is complete and will compete in the U18's Super League (or Valvoline Cup?)
"ROVERS' PATHWAY TO SUCCESS COMPLETE.
If you believe in something you work to make it happen. You fight for it if you have to.
Rovers' head Coach Daryl Powell, his assistant Ryan Sheridan and everyone involved in running the club, have striven to create a top quality system for developing talent from schoolboy to professional. Their work and belief has paid off with the retention of their burgeoning scholarship programme, and the entry of a team in the Valvoline U18 Academy. With Rovers' Reserve Grade side having a fine season, that complete system is now in place."
Complete article - www.featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=2454
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On 19th August, Featherstone announced their scholarship is complete and will compete in the U18's Super League (or Valvoline Cup?)
"ROVERS' PATHWAY TO SUCCESS COMPLETE.
If you believe in something you work to make it happen. You fight for it if you have to.
Rovers' head Coach Daryl Powell, his assistant Ryan Sheridan and everyone involved in running the club, have striven to create a top quality system for developing talent from schoolboy to professional. Their work and belief has paid off with the retention of their burgeoning scholarship programme, and the entry of a team in the Valvoline U18 Academy. With Rovers' Reserve Grade side having a fine season, that complete system is now in place."
Complete article - www.featherstonerovers.net/article.php?id=2454
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| so Fev have achieved something that Leigh believed was impossible?
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| very best of luck to fev.
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| Aren't the 'financial constraints' put on clubs to try stop them over spending?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Aren't the 'financial constraints' put on clubs to try stop them over spending?'"
Perhaps but they STILL waste money on overseas players!
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| Quote ="mmp"so Fev have achieved something that Leigh believed was impossible?'"
Not impossible , just financially not viable or of a big enough priority , well done Fev , but still according to Daryl Powel made overly difficult by the RFL
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not impossible , just financially not viable or of a big enough priority , well done Fev , but still according to Daryl Powel made overly difficult by the RFL'"
but they do not 'refuse' to allow non SL clubs to run scholarships...as you said when you started this thread. a statement that was, simply, wrong.
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| Quote ="mmp"but they do not 'refuse' to allow non SL clubs to run scholarships...as you said when you started this thread. a statement that was, simply, wrong.'"
They have refused us to run the scholarship in the way we have been running it , ie they have changed the rules , just as they changed the rules on academies a few years ago , I have no wish to continue going over it all again
I posted what Daryl Powel was quoted in the RL and LE , pass comment on that if you want , or maybe you think he is wrong , you wont of course , you like many others always ignore anything not quite to their agenda
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| Super League clubs get helped by the RFL to run these Scholarships, Championship clubs do not, I guess this is what Daryl means when he says 'Financial Constraints' as Featherstone have now got to fund this program by itself.
With all due respect to clubs who don't run scholarship programs, I don't think the kids away from scholarship rugby receive the same level of coaching as the lads who are in a scholarship, so to retain this privilege to a chosen few and keeping it an elite group of teams is inevitably holding the game back.
I believe clubs running scholarships should be helped by the RFL no matter what level of the game they play.
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| Quote ="Starbug"They have refused us to run the scholarship in the way we have been running it
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meet the criteria then. as one of your own fans has said in this thread - the RFL talent route is the envy of other sports and is designed to ensure that the top players get the development they need. your system doesnt pass the test and remember that fev have managed to meet this criteria now - then ask your club why thay haven't managed it. and then wonder why it is you'll be playing championship rugby once again. you'll blame the RFL, but when other championship clubs are overcoming the problems that leigh suggest can't be sorted, then you have to ask whats wrong in the club???
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| Quote ="mmp"meet the criteria then. as one of your own fans has said in this thread - the RFL talent route is the envy of other sports and is designed to ensure that the top players get the development they need. your system doesnt pass the test and remember that fev have managed to meet this criteria now - then ask your club why thay haven't managed it. and=#FF0000 then wonder why it is you'll be playing championship rugby once again. you'll blame the RFL, but when other championship clubs are overcoming the problems that leigh suggest can't be sorted, then you have to ask whats wrong in the club???'"
That would be because we are a Championship club , nothing to do with scholarships
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