Are you asking why it isnt likely a group of SL quality young players wouldnt be relegated from the Championship? it seems fairly self-evident to be honest.
look back you will see. Its fairly obvious, i helpfully pointed out to you which is how we got here.

look on the previous page, i listed what the club could prepare for their entry into SL. You know 'facilities and stuff'

So you mean any heartland club can apply for SL , and if they are accepted be given 3 years in the Championship to prepare , and they prepare by being a Championship club ?

And yet you have argued many times that the Championship cannot prepare a club for SL , you need to put a club IN SL for it to become a SL club

Contradiction time

i would give ones in that position a year or two to prepare. Yes.

I have already pointed out the difference to you, look on the previous page,

EDIT: in fact to save ourselves the fannying about of you desperately trying to avoid admitting you have no point

So a non heartland club with probably very few fans pays for SL quality juniors and a SL quality coaching team ?

Oakley doakley

a championship club with the guarantee of SL in 2/3 years yes.

In fact i would be happy giving them 2/3 years of SL money whilst they prepare.

You obviously dont know much about Championship RL then do you

2 nd bit , sorry youv'e lost me

What ' facilities and stuff ' ? exactly

are you saying championship quality players are better than SL quality players/? because otherwise you dont seem to be making a point.

it was fairly simple so im not surprised.


look on the previous page

Aahh , right now then thats better , so you'd give them SL money in the Championships so they can buy better players and coaching staff , that will do wonders for the credibility of the Championships , you really are funny at times , anyway keep digging , you'll be in China in a bit

not solely to buy better players and better coaching staff,

they would be looking at younger SL quality players, and players with the potential to be.

There would also be the many other things i have listed you seem to have struggled to comprehend

You said SL quality juniors , they are not SL quality players , or they would be playing IN SL , you mean academy players , dual reg type players , any more than 5/6 and you'd be risking relegation

Look it's no good just saying " I'v already told you , or look at the last page " , what FACILITIES , exactly ?

Grass , balls , shirts , boots , what , exactly , drugs maybe , tell us right now what the facilities are different in SL than in the Championships ? , what are these facilities that make a RL player a SL player rather than a Championship player ?

and then what after that , what would you spend the money on , exactly ?

Younger SL quality players , but the SL clubs need these players , they arent going to let another club have them , or do you mean players not good enough for the SL clubs ? , ie Championship players , aah , players with ' potential ' you mean academy players ?

You havent ' listed ' anything ? , thats what I keep asking you for

Thank you for trying to tell me what i mean. Im happy i already knew what i meant. By SL quality youngsters, I meant youngsters capable of playing in SL.

I have told you, exactly. Why bother telling you again? you clearly struggle to understand, and im not sure I can make, what is basically a list, any simpler.

Is it? why exactly is that how it works for a club guaranteed a place in SL in 2/3 years?

What possible reason could they have to spend all their money on players when their promotion isnt dependent on their on field performance.

I mean players who can play at SL level. Hence my calling them SL quality players. Again, a fairly simple concept.

you mean a list of things like this

So players capable of playing in SL , so SL players then , and you pay these SL capable players what , Championship wages ? , also you aquire these players from where exactly ? , SL clubs ? , so SL clubs are going to give you SL capable players for nothing , players they have invested time and money in , Er NO

You havent given a list , that is what I am asking for

They build a team, the same time way every promoted club builds a team, however they have more time to do so, so dont have to rely on so many overseas players like HKA, and they can also take more time to take more risks on more players with the potential to be SL players.

I have no idea why you have no idiotically decided that it is harder to build a side in 2/3 years than it is in a matter of months. It is mental.

you mean other than the the one directly above

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It does , because if they dont get the best they can the coach will get sacked , 3 yesr contract or not

SL players again , but playing for Championship wages , no

That isn't a list of the ' facilities ' you mentioned , not like you to attempt to change the subject because you dont have an answer

The risk is you get relegated , you havent answered a single ' question ' because there isn't an answer , if you put a club in the Championships on SL money to prepare , you stuff up the Championship , if you dont give them the money , they cannot prepare simple as

And the only ' facility ' that will improve a player is ' time ' , time spent training and being trained by top quality coaches , that require full time training , that requires money , lots of it , so the only facility you need is money

HTH

well its nice that you have prejudged somebody else's opinion without asking it rather than just me. But you still havent explained the logic of giving a manager the aim of building players ready for SL with actual results as secondary, and then sacking them for meeting their aim.

no,

it is a list of 'facilities and stuff' which is what you mentioned, and i agreed with, which you have then tried desperately to change to just 'facilities' and then ignored the fact that to do some of the things i have mentioned may need clubs to buy or improve 'facilities' to 'facilitate' these things.

But to save us time in simply mocking your lunacy, what did you think 'facilities and stuff' means, then we can see how you got confused?

Clubs sell themselves as an SL club? they take 2/3 years to sell themselves as an SL club in the 3/4th year? They build in all aspects towards their entrance to SL in the 3/4th year rather than their immediate future in the championships? really?

no it isnt, I have said what i am saying, you can read it above.

Why do you? they dont need to spend all their money on players, and the players they do spend more on would be young players using a couple of years to prepare,

they would then spend the rest on infrastructure which would make no difference to other championship clubs. Getting relegated is a very very unlikely event.

Apparently, you have said before, what i am proposing is exactly what Widnes have done, strangely they have neither being relegate or stuff up the championships.

its a wonder then, that the best league in the world (in all sports including our own) invest millions in multi-million pound training facilities isnt it. If only they employed you instead, maybe we could get you running Man Utd or Brisbane Bronco's maybe one day, if they try really really hard they may get to the level you got Leigh?

Leigh , you mean like the LSV site , the one that the RFL ignored , the one that had W1g4n,Saints and Warrington training at last week along with Premiership side Blackburn Rovers , the one that the Aussie schoolboys did a two match tour of last week

What have Widnes ' done ' exactly , apart from finishing 5th , have they built a new stadium maybe ? , improved their attendances ? , the only thing they have done is to keep their junior development programmes , for which they should be congratulated , if any of these players make the grade in SL will be interesting to see , but odds on they have a 90 % different team in 2012 compared to 2011

That Leigh

the one according to you that must have been a 'massive waste of money'. It seems strange all these clubs with all their money chose to train there, may as well just gone down the park with a ball, thats all the training an RL player needs isnt it?

you mean they relied on youth, gave them an opportunity so they would be better prepared for SL? So that Widnes wouldnt need to rely on overseas players in the same way as Hull KR? but you told me that would mean they would be relegated or 'stuff up the championships'. Now you are saying we should congratulate Widnes for doing what i proposed (to a lesser degree however) and you argued against.

eh? Widnes is Leigh? What are you on about?

Today is getting on for a new low even for you.

Widnes will have a 90 % different team 2011 to 2012 , if they dont they will get absolutley smashed , so any pretence that they have prepared is just that

Yes they have retained a good junior set up , well done

So your problem with using the 2/3 years a club would have in the championships to set up and prepare their academy, maybe give a shot and a bit of experience to some young players and rough diamonds

Along with setting up their infrastructure, spend more time selling sponsorship for SL, more time selling tickets and corporates for SL, bedding in a coaching team and generally preparing would be?????

How would they fund all this whilst in the CC? You really think that SL teams would allow a team not in their league some of their TV money?

i dont think they would have much of a problem helping fun a team which is joining SL. Similarly I expect Sky would see the logic in putting a bit more in for the team coming up.