So they got the dispensation to sign a replacement, but then did a player swap to bring in Gale's replacement leaving them free to use the extra cap space later on?

God knows, he hasn`t had a good game in 3 years and apparently his attitude is terrible - If true, great business by Cas.

Yeah - that's the idea.

Ben Harrison at Warrington. De-registered for a year (2016?) came back a month earlier than predicted. Wire tried to get him back in the squad. RFL said not until they got somebody off the cap to fit him in. Ben Harrison went to Wakey on loan for a month.

Wasn't there something on those lines when Wakey signed Simon Grix from Warrington for the rest of the season to help Wire out with their cap problems?

Hull KR de-registered Michael Dobson.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... rs-2419012 Hull Live can reveal it’s not the first time the RFL have granted such a request. Clubs have been able to seek dispensation for full season injuries occurred in pre-season since the beginning of the 2016 campaign. It’s understood clubs have to submit medical evidence regarding the injuries and if successful, said player’s salary is taken off the cap. It’s a ploy that has been utilised on several occasions by clubs over the last three years.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... rs-2419012 Hull Live can reveal it’s not the first time the RFL have granted such a request. Clubs have been able to seek dispensation for full season injuries occurred in pre-season since the beginning of the 2016 campaign. It’s understood clubs have to submit medical evidence regarding the injuries and if successful, said player’s salary is taken off the cap. It’s a ploy that has been utilised on several occasions by clubs over the last three years.

Yet they don’t name a single player. So they can reveal it happened, they just can’t reveal any actual examples. So reality is they don’t know for sure it’s happened.

For a quota spot, don’t think they did it because they’d be over the salary cap.

Your right Dobson was injured and we’d already signed Willie Mason on the understanding I think we were trying to get Galea or Vella on there Maltese passports which failed

Yes I remember that. IIRC he didn't even get a game for Wakey. I might have been a favour for a friend. Richard Agar ?

Not 100% sure but wasn't Ben Currie de-registered at Warrington who didn't immediately sign a second row or centre to replace him ? Wire got Josh Charnley from Sale RU a couple of months later.

Are you just making it up now as you go along?

Agar, Smith, who knows, one thing was for sure he was injured and out for the season when he came that's why he never played for us, a strange signing which on the face of it never benefited Wakey.

Dom Manfredi. De-registered by Wigan in 2017 and rightly so IMO.

Was he or are you just throwing out names of injured players.

Spirit of the cap?

Up to now I have 6 instances where players have been de-registered since the rule was introduced in 2016.

Ben Harrison - Warrington (injury)
Ben Currie - Warrington (injury)
Don Manfredi - Wigan (injury)
Luke Gale - Tigers (injury)
Michael Dobson - Hull KR (quota spot)
James Segayaro - Leeds (disciplinary)

Dobson was back in 2011 (so doesn’t fit your 2016 ruling) and not for SC reasons. No evidence of Manfredi being deregusteted and he actually played in the reserves in 2017 so unlikely your correct. Currie wasn’t that’s just you guessing. Segeyaro as explained previously is again made up nonsense.

Quote ="Tigerade"Dom Manfredi. De-registered by Wigan in 2017 and rightly so IMO.'" Nope. He was ready for a recall Aug 2017 before suffering a setback. www.totalrl.com/wigan-winger-dom ... y-lay-off/

Quote ="Tigerade"Dom Manfredi. De-registered by Wigan in 2017 and rightly so IMO.'" Nope. He was ready for a recall Aug 2017 before suffering a setback. www.totalrl.com/wigan-winger-dom ... y-lay-off/

I assume that in this deal, the players wages are to be paid by the loan club (i.e. cas paying Rankins wage)? I can't see what's in it for Hudds otherwise, I know Rankin was one of the highest paid players there and I can't see them wanting to bring Wardle in for effectively the same money.

I'm not sure what Wardle was on at Cas but they are potentially increasing the wage bill if they are paying Rankin.

Wardle was very high paid at Cas. Overpaid.

And to think everying single cas fan had a pop at Wigan re the fielden signing but now it’s ok for them to cheat the cap

I think a lot of people are confusing what they think the rules/laws around the salary cap should be & what they actually are.
Salary cap relief is an option available to every team in SL, providing certain conditions are met. Cas are not getting any kind of preferential treatment; we are merely making use of an obscure/rarely used option.
I liken it to the salary cap itself. A great number of people believe the salary cap is a fixed number that cannot be broken. However, there are exemptions/dispensations such as the club trained player, player welfare, returning talent, international status, educational needs, new talent & marquee status. All of this dispensations can be used by any club, but aren’t. Equally; use of these exemptions will take a club over the “salary cap”; are they cheating? No; they are taking advantage of options available to every club should they wish to pursue them. This exemption Cas are utilising is no different.

No, people understand the rule and that dispensation can be allowed in certain circumstances, the question is whether picking up an injury in training should be one of these circumstances.