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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Toronto will still gain promotion this year, when that happens, you Leigh fans will have the biggest dummy spit ever seen on RLfans.'"
Biggest 'Dummy Spit' ever (not really) They get promoted, and that winker Rowley gets sacked part way though the season. JOB DONE
They might get promoted this year. They are fortunate that Widnes are by far the worst SL team ever to take part in the qualifiers.
But if they beat your team tomorrow, then Leeds are not guaranteed a top 3 finish.
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| Leigh fans celebrating a Toronto loss is their grand final. Whatever happens, professional rugby league will be played in Toronto next season unlike Leigh
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Leigh fans celebrating a Toronto loss is their grand final. Whatever happens, professional rugby league will be played in Toronto next season unlike Leigh
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Why are you still here?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Why are you still here?
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Correct Willy,he's just a Stain in the neck.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Leigh fans celebrating a Toronto loss is their grand final. Whatever happens, professional rugby league will be played in Toronto next season unlike Leigh
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You are correct. David Argyle is totally committed to The Toronto Wolfpack and has a huge fortune behind him.
Derek Beaumont‘s reckless all or nothing business model has seen Leigh on the brink of bankruptcy. Derek has said he’s walking away at the end of the season and not a single person has shown interest in taking over the Leigh club, putting serious doubt over whether the club will exist in 2019. Why does nobody want to own Leigh Centurions? They have a modern stadium and reasonable level of support for a Championship club. Could it be because of the unpleasantness and hostility Leigh fans show to outsiders?
My suggestion to Leigh fans would be to try and save your own club, instead of trying to plot The Toronto Wolfpack or Catalan Dragons demise.
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| Whereas you're quite clearly enjoying Leigh's plight. At least they aren't a plastic, manufacturerd, soulless club.
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| How many Leigh players came through their academy. They’re no different to Toronto, all their players were produced elsewhere.
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| Quote My suggestion to Leigh fans would be to try and save your own club, instead of trying to plot The Toronto Wolfpack or Catalan Dragons demise.'"
I don't know why they don't become Wigans reserve grade team as it seems each club is going to need one.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"How many Leigh players came through their academy. They’re no different to Toronto, all their players were produced elsewhere.'"
At the moment, just 3. Bradley Whelan, Sam Peet, Mitch Cox, whist Micky Higham signed from Leigh Miners (1st time round)
In our promotion winning season of 2016, there were 6 ex Leigh Academy players.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"At the moment, just 3. Bradley Whelan, Sam Peet, Mitch Cox, whist Micky Higham signed from Leigh Miners (1st time round)
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So in most of your match day 17 man squads this year that would be 0.
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| Looks like London, Toulouse and Toronto all on 4 points after today's games.
The question is still unanswered: which one of them will replace Widnes?
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| Looking at the remaining fixtures I’d say it’ll be Toulouse who miss out in 6th. Tough to see them winning any of the remaining games unless Salford go through the motions in the final week against them as they’ll be safe by then.
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| I have a predicted run of results that puts Salford on 14, TO & HKR on 10, Leeds on 8 and Toulouse & London on 6.
I say "predicted", more a wish list.
I tried to engineer Leeds being away in the MPG, but that was TOO fanciful.
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| Salford v Leeds is Leeds CC Final/Grand Final this year...... They need to win it to avoid potentially 2 weeks of jeapordy. They beat Salford and they're safe......and Toronto will host London.....they lose then it will be twitchy bum time
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| Quote ="Willzay"Whereas you're quite clearly enjoying Leigh's plight. At least they aren't a plastic, manufacturerd, soulless club.'"
.... that bring no benefit to the code.....
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| Quote ="Willzay"Why are you still here?
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Why are you derailing the topic???
Stop trying to distract from the truth and act responsibly.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Looks like London, Toulouse and Toronto all on 4 points after today's games.
The question is still unanswered: which one of them will replace Widnes?'"
I'm going to stick my neck out and say Toronto will blow it. London and Toulouse are my front runners for the MPG at the moment with London just sneaking it.
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| I think Toronto v London in the MPG, but a lot could depend on how much Salford put into their game against Tolouse, given that I think they will be already safe by then.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"I'm going to stick my neck out and say Toronto will blow it. London and Toulouse are my front runners for the MPG at the moment with London just sneaking it.'"
Before the m8s started I wondered if Toronto might choke. London and Toulouse have both beaten an SL team (Widnes). To get a chance of promotion they must beat either Leeds or Widnes.
Even with Leeds' issues, I can't see Toronto winning that one. If Widnes beat 'fax next weekend it might just give them a bit of a boost ahead of going to Canada.
Basically, Toronto will not get automatic promotion and may still miss out on the MPG.
London is a massive game for us at home next week and if we ease off like we did against Halifax, London have just enough to get one over on us. Points difference is important in such a short league but winning by any margin is more important. Looking at whats left, a minimum of 9 points will get you into the top 3.
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| Quote ="Joff"Why are you derailing the topic???
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Oh goody, another one.
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| Just to put it out there, it may well be that the MPG becomes irrelevant as there is every chance of a change to the league structure, which may well see SL expanded to 14 clubs, which will ensure the safety of Leeds and allow London, Tolouse and Toronto to replace Widnes.
Tbf, this would give everyone the chance to see just what benefits there may be in having a North American side in SL as well as potentially boosting the game in France, which seems pretty sensible.
I dont know how this may or may not affect Sky funding etc but, it would be the right thing for the game.
THis could also ensure that Bradford and York make it into the Championship although, this would further infuriate the Leigh and Fev fans, who may think that their clubs have missed out.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Just to put it out there, it may well be that the MPG becomes irrelevant as there is every chance of a change to the league structure, which may well see SL expanded to 14 clubs, which will ensure the safety of Leeds
and allow London, Tolouse and Toronto to replace Widnes.
Tbf, this would give everyone the chance to see just what benefits there may be in having a North American side in SL as well as potentially boosting the game in France, which seems pretty sensible.
I dont know how this may or may not affect Sky funding etc but, it would be the right thing for the game.
THis could also ensure that Bradford and York make it into the Championship although, [uthis would further[/u i[unfuriate the Leigh and Fev fans,[/u who may think that their clubs have missed out.'"
We have missed out under the current structure that's in place now. We only have ourselves to blame for that,despite what the new structure will be.
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| To be honest I can see the MPG being between Toronto & London, with London taking the win.
As has been mentioned earlier if Salford beat Leeds then there is no guarantee they won't find themselves in 4th.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Just to put it out there, it may well be that the MPG becomes irrelevant as there is every chance of a change to the league structure, which may well see SL expanded to 14 clubs, which will ensure the safety of Leeds
and allow London, Tolouse and Toronto to replace Widnes.
Tbf, this would give everyone the chance to see just what benefits there may be in having a North American side in SL as well as potentially boosting the game in France, which seems pretty sensible.
I dont know how this may or may not affect Sky funding etc but, it would be the right thing for the game.
THis could also ensure that Bradford and York make it into the Championship although, this would further infuriate the Leigh and Fev fans, who may think that their clubs have missed out.'"
I'd like them to expand SL to 14 for the reasons you mention, but believe we are looking at:
SL - 12 teams, 5 team play offs, 1 up 1 down
Championship - 14 teams, 1 up 1 down
League 1 - 12 teams. 3 up 1 down this season, then 1 up 1 down thereafter.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I'd like them to expand SL to 14 for the reasons you mention, but believe we are looking at:
SL - 12 teams, 5 team play offs, 1 up 1 down
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League 1 - 12 teams. 3 up 1 down this season, then 1 up 1 down thereafter.'"
IF we are to have a change in format, ultimately with the aim of accommodating Toronto and Toulouse, then, lets stop
chuffing about and get them into the top flight. It's imperative that we find out whether the inclusion of Toronto is practical and beneficial to the sport before we start thinking any additional N. American clubs.
They (Toronto) should be promoted and then protected from relegation for 2/3 seasons and lets see if it's a good idea.
Personally, I'm still not convinced, although they should be applauded for their efforts in getting as far as they have in such a short space of time. However, until the "model" is proven, we know nothing and we need to know whether they (and others) would be viable in SL before getting too much further down the track.
I really dont see the benefit in waiting another 1,2,3 seasons to find out whether it works.
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