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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).
That would make a fantastic Super League:
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St Helens
Warrington
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London
Catalans
Toulouse
Toronto[/i
That would leave room for future expansion to include [iNew York[/i and [iBoston[/i in a 14 team Super League, and later [iMontreal[/i and [iAvignon[/i in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly [iPhiladelphia[/i and [iParis[/i in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:
(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.
(2) a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries, because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.'"
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| Quote ="Cokey"'"
Brilliantly reasoned rebuttal. |
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Brilliantly reasoned rebuttal.'"
Current average attendances for homes games in 2018........I suspect anything south of 5k has no place at the top table so London and Toulouse are non-starters and Toronto need to declare real gates this year and no la la land ones......
Catalans 7,551
Huddersfield 5,794
Widnes 5,351
Wakefield 5,112
Salford 3,421
Leigh 3,644
Featherstone 2,405
Toulouse 2,134
Halifax 1,741
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You may laugh but it’s likley Toronto will top your attendance table come the end of the season, despite been an expansion club in the Championship.
That’s pretty poor for the Super League clubs that have been around for 100+ years.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).
That would make a fantastic Super League:
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St Helens
Warrington
Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford
London
Catalans
Toulouse
Toronto[/i
That would leave room for future expansion to include [iNew York[/i and [iBoston[/i in a 14 team Super League, and later [iMontreal[/i and [iAvignon[/i in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly [iPhiladelphia[/i and [iParis[/i in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:
(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.
(2) a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries, because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.'"
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!'"
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).
That would make a fantastic Super League:
[iWigan
St Helens
Warrington
Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford
London
Catalans
Toulouse
Toronto[/i
That would leave room for future expansion to include [iNew York[/i and [iBoston[/i in a 14 team Super League, and later [iMontreal[/i and [iAvignon[/i in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly [iPhiladelphia[/i and [iParis[/i in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:
(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.
(2) [size=150a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries,[/size because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.'"
How many British players are on Toronto's books...20 i think.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!'"
He may have a house there he has forgotten about. |
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!'"  
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Toulouse just annihilated Barrow (who beat 2017 Super League side Leigh)
Toulouse racked up 50 points with 9 different try scorers.
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For those who missed it, highlights of a terrific top of the table contest between Toronto and Toulouse. Many of those tries were of good Super League quality. Two great teams:
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More hype. It was very poor defence rather than SL quality tries.
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| Quote ="reffy"More hype. It was very poor defence rather than SL quality tries.'"
That is not true. The defence of each side was strong, but some of the attack was brilliant.
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"For those who missed it, highlights of a terrific top of the table contest between Toronto and Toulouse. Many of those tries were of good Super League quality. Two great teams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80krPmK5KfY'"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80krPmK5KfY'"
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| Quote ="ColD"Please tell me they have another ground planned should they go up'"
The whisper is/was Colomiers with an 11K capacity just around the motorway. |
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Nothing on Catalan Jean, have you ditched them in favour of Toulouse
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| Quote ="sanjunien"The whisper is/was Colomiers with an 11K capacity just around the motorway.'"
Good to hear, in all honesty I can only see Toronto troubling the middle 8s from a champ perspective (Leigh have a good squad and are runnng into a bit of form, but even if they got in the 8s wouldnt do much from 4th). That's purely because I believe Toronto will strengthen further, would Toulouse have he finances to do the same |
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Rather than argue the toss about what may or may not happen in the future why not relish the present and look at what a fantastic Championship competition we have this season.
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| Quote ="ColD"Good to hear, in all honesty I can only see Toronto troubling the middle 8s from a champ perspective (Leigh have a good squad and are runnng into a bit of form, =#FF0000but even if they got in the 8s wouldnt do much from 4th).That's purely because I believe Toronto will strengthen further, would Toulouse have he finances to do the same'"
Col,that's unfair at this stage of the season. BTW - We have two middles coming in to strengthen our pack. |
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| Quote ="Cokey"Col,that's unfair at this stage of the season. BTW - We have two middles coming in to strengthen our pack.'"
Interesting,i think this pack is coming into its own now so to strengthen it more is great. Vaivai out for season,such a shame as it looked like he was starting to get going |
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| Quote ="reffy"More hype. It was very poor defence rather than SL quality tries.'"
a bit like the Leigh v Fev game then.... |
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Looking more and more like London's bubbles burst!
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TBH I think London were overachieving at the start of the season. They still have a very good chance of finishing in the top 4, but are much in need of a win.
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Should get it this weekend....
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Toronto have signed prop Darcy Lussick.
Lussick looked set to leave the club a fortnight ago, however a string of injuries left Manly reluctant to release him given the number of players in the crowded Sea Eagles casualty ward.
The Sea Eagles and Lussick have reached an agreement that would allow him to depart the country immediately to join the Wolfpack in their quest to gain promotion into the English Super League next year.
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