I'll let Bennett figure that one out!

Game over I think, we've lost our way.

Because he's the only half we've got whose used to NRL defence week in week out.

Nobody is taking or organising at all. Where's the captain? Where's the halves and hooker leading? NOWHERE! Brown just kicked to nothing on the third tackle, what's going on?

Definitely over now

dire. stood off Inglis all day long and now he fancies it. hopefully it won't turn into a cricket score now.

Is bateman playing today?

haha same old here we go... not unexpected though.

We've got to get a grip otherwise it'll be 40+

This is just awful!

We were closer to them two years ago over in their back yard.

I'm hoping it's one step backwards before taking numerous strides forward under Bennett because we've certainly gone backwards under him so far.

Until we can find a general at half back, then we don't stand much chance.

Bateman has been outstanding in defence.

They have gotten over the top of our pack and we have dropped off far too many tackles. We have too many players who just can't do the basics well enough, consistently enough to give us a platform

Jesus. I look away for a few minutes and Australia score again.m

Chopping and changing the lineup hasn't helped, bringing back an aging Kevin Brown who hasn't played for weeks wasn't the answer today.

Got to say I've not been impressed with Bennett so far, we looked better under McManara.

Which is not a valid reason for why he should be in the team. If he isnt playing well he should not play. It's not like he has been great for the dragons.

George Williams should be in the team as England need a running half back.

Honestly this is no joke now. Come the world cup next year I can see Wayne picking the Australian players who qualify for England. I think he was tempted for the 4 nations but after this he will claim he needs better players. I can see the morrris brothers running out for England next year.

We need to re-introduce promotion and relegation, we'll never beat the aussies until every game means...oh wait, I forgot which format we currently have.

I mean we need to do away with promotion and relegation, we'll never beat the aussies until teams can build for the future and invest in youngsters.

Same old same old. We will never be good enough until we stop all the average journey men overseas players playing in super league. I really believe two things need to happen limite over seas players to 3 and 5 max including residency players.

And do what Australia do, only pick players who play in super league,

probably.If that happens though i no longer have any interest in the international game.

I was waiting for the obligatory ''we'll never be good enough/beat the aussies until we........''.

Bravo.

That's a fair point to which I agree.

That also applies to certain other players who, despite their constant inadequaices at international level, continue to get picked because I quote "there's no one better".

Funny that people are rabbiting on about the halfbacks again. England have been battered in the pack.

Have to say though Australia have played much better than they have done in the past few tournaments.

It's true though Int it. We have not got anywhere near them since 1994. No coincidence that since the Quita went from 3 to around 8 that we have gone backwards. We have not addressed the same issues we have had for 15years plus, we are not producing enough quality players across multiple positions.

We're losing this game because their pack has had more intensity in their running and tackling than we have.

We've also looked a bit one dimensional at hooker with just Hodgson. Hooker is our strongest position with Hodgson Clark McIlorum Roby...yet we've not used Clark well in this tournament at all.

The reality is we have conceded three soft tries, Australia don't do that and NZ rarely do, that is the difference.