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| Now, can we return to discussing the intended topic - ie. Super League and Championship attendances ??
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| Quote ="JonB95"Read ---> EACH INDIVIDUAL FIXTURE.
Every fixture last year, you compared only to the previous years figure. Why have you ->NOW<- suddenly decided to compare the individual fixtures to the previous five years? Is it that the increased crowds do not as much fit your agenda? Give me a break - you only publish the statistics that suit you. That is why I am choosing only to compare to last year, rather than picking and choosing the historical context based on whether or not it fits my argument.'"
The attendance at every single SL fixture played last year, the year before in 2012, in 2011, in 2010 and in 2009 were accounted for each and every week at the conclusion of each round of fixtures. Historical context was therefore applied at the conclusion of each and every round.
Yet you continue to accuse me of being happy to avoid historical context and that remains a huge fabrication on your part.
Which SL attendances were not accounted for in my figures for last year? And in 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009?
And is your fabricated accusation driven by the distinct lack of historical context in the figures you've provided thus far?
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| Quote ="William Eve"The attendance at every single SL fixture played last year, the year before in 2012, in 2011, in 2010 and in 2009 were accounted for each and every week at the conclusion of each round of fixtures. Historical context was therefore applied at the conclusion of each and every round.
Yet you continue to accuse me of being happy to avoid historical context and that remains a huge fabrication on your part.
Which SL attendances were not accounted for in my figures for last year? And in 2012, 2011, 2010 and 2009?
And is your fabricated accusation driven by the distinct lack of historical context in the figures you've provided thus far?'"
I have a radio in my car.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Is their an exam at the end of the season?
London will average less than 2k this year.......there are some very strange posters on their forum at the moment trying to put a positive spin on that gate yesterday??????'"
No, there are some very normal fans on there saying they enjoyed the day and that there were some new fans that also enjoyed it.
There is one very strange fan on there who tries to twist any positivity into proof of some kind of mass flag waving support of the current CEO.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"No, there are some very normal fans on there saying they enjoyed the day and that there were some new fans that also enjoyed it.
There is one very strange fan on there who tries to twist any positivity into proof of some kind of mass flag waving support of the current CEO.'"
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"No, there are some very normal fans on there saying they enjoyed the day and that there were some new fans that also enjoyed it.
There is one very strange fan on there who tries to twist any positivity into proof of some kind of mass flag waving support of the current CEO.'"
there are also an ever shrinking number of London fans who have had their expectations dragged down so far that they think being able to buy a coffee at 1.80 instead of 2.50, having smiling staff at a tiny venue where the pitch is too short and a team that "at least tried" when getting hammered by a mid table team after the week before being thoroughly hammered by a lower half team is a positive
London Broncos only source of income in 2014 is the RFL money and whatever David Hughes is prepared to put into the club....the landlord takes the rent for the offices and training facilities, the ticketing revenue, the bars revenue, the shop revenue, the parking revenue the commercial revenue and anything else that's going, including the RFL bribe ...sorry, marketing budget.
How anyone could take that lot and add 2 drubbings and a 2nd lowest crowd ever for SL in the capital and put any positive spin on it is beyond belief
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Just normal fans talking about game day. '"
Which I applaud. Find me a post where I said stay away?
Quote ="Tre Cool"Your behaviour on here is getting more and more bizarre by the week.'"
Because I can see where this is going to end and it really does pain me to watch what had real potential being driven into the dust by an apathetic owner with no business sense whatsoever, an inept sports administrator with a 6 year+ track record of no success in cricket and now League but multiple failures, a barrowboy landlord who is on a win win scenario and who will never invest with no chance of getting his money back (his words, not mine) and a sports governing body who bribed the barrow boy to take us in so they could get to the end of 2014 with their 14 team SL in one piece.
Atop of that, we sit at the foot of the table on -80 points difference and have 2 relegation deciders coming up in rounds 3 and 5......lose them and it really is curtains.
Spin that as you will, but don't tell me it's "positive"
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| This thread would make much better reading if we excluded London & Wakefield
Roll on next year.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Which I applaud. Find me a post where I said stay away?
Because I can see where this is going to end and it really does pain me to watch what had real potential being driven into the dust by an apathetic owner with no business sense whatsoever, an inept sports administrator with a 6 year+ track record of no success in cricket and now League but multiple failures, a barrowboy landlord who is on a win win scenario and who will never invest with no chance of getting his money back (his words, not mine) and a sports governing body who bribed the barrow boy to take us in so they could get to the end of 2014 with their 14 team SL in one piece.
Atop of that, we sit at the foot of the table on -80 points difference and have 2 relegation deciders coming up in rounds 3 and 5......lose them and it really is curtains.
Spin that as you will, but don't tell me it's "positive"
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Nobody is 'spinning' anything you're totally paranoid. We're just talking about our experiences of the day, good and bad. You're not the enlightened one that needs to educate us, you live about 20000 miles away FFS and are in a sh*t position to comment on anything apart from what you read on the internet.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Nobody is 'spinning' anything you're totally paranoid. We're just talking about our experiences of the day, good and bad. You're not the enlightened one that needs to educate us, you live about 20000 miles away FFS and are in a sh*t position to comment on anything apart from what you read on the internet.'"
Dont forget those important text messages he gets from Ian Lenegan when he is diving into his pool of gold coins Scrooge McDuck style.
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| Leave the London debate elsewhere please. This is an attendance thread. Personally it's the end of the season where I take interest in this thread. The vagaries of week to week variances are multiple and complex. It's mainly used to peddle agenda's if the figures allow.
But regardless of my own views it is an attendance thread anything London based is going to be moved.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Leave the London debate elsewhere please. This is an attendance thread. Personally it's the end of the season where I take interest in this thread. The vagaries of week to week variances are multiple and complex. It's mainly used to peddle agenda's if the figures allow.
But regardless of my own views it is an attendance thread anything London based is going to be moved.'"
London have attendances too you know. Just small ones.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"London have attendances too you know. Just small ones.'"
No problem with discussion of London attendances, it was the move elsewhere that was causing the derail.
To discuss Londons attendance, put quite simply yes in overall context it looks bad, I can't see where they will get a win from to be honest. But lets hope they are on the bottom of the downward curve.
I do hope they can rebuild and pick up more fans with wins in the lower division if that is their final destination.
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| Too many fans at Salford.
Sky won't be pleased, delaying their kick off, damn those pesky people turning up and not watching on TV.
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| That's a very good effort by the Salford back office team tonight. 6,353 is very good....VERY good on a Thursday evening when you compare it to the 3,248 in the middle of last Summer or even the 5,447 the June before!
I was one of the first to doubt @Mar and his ability to be in it for the long run, but if Noble can get the side playing a bit better than tonight, then the fans will return!
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| Must applaud the travelling Saints support, almost 2000 sitting and standing. Hopefully the 4,500 Salford fans will be back. Shame that the cameras were pointing at such a sply filled stand,but the terraces looked great.
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| Help! 4000 fans missing at hull KR
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| Quote ="the artist"Help! 4000 fans missing at hull KR'"
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| Actually the crowd was up.
Last year Hull KR got 6489,
2014 = 7022. That's a roughly 10% increase.
The biggest losers tonight were Catalan 6300 in 2014 v 7019 in 2013.
So those two roughly balance each other out.
But Widnes got more in this year.
2014 = 5,577 v 2013 = 5,173
Long season of counting to continue. Glad I'm not doing it.
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| Interesting to see that Hull FC will be offering incentives this season to attract more away supporters, starting with £19 tickets and discounted coach travel for Bradford supporters next weekend.
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-confirm-plans-discount-offers-attract/story-20725662-detail/story.html[/url
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Interesting to see that Hull FC will be offering incentives this season to attract more away supporters, starting with £19 tickets and discounted coach travel for Bradford supporters next weekend.
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-confirm-plans-discount-offers-attract/story-20725662-detail/story.html[/url'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Interesting to see that Hull FC will be offering incentives this season to attract more away supporters, starting with £19 tickets and discounted coach travel for Bradford supporters next weekend.
[urlhttp://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-confirm-plans-discount-offers-attract/story-20725662-detail/story.html[/url'"
So Pearson has reversed his previous policy of fleecing away fans by charging higher prices for equivalent seats to home fans? Very magnanimous of him. You can see why Hull fans think he is a genius businessman.
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| Quote ="MjM"So Pearson has reversed his previous policy of fleecing away fans by charging higher prices for equivalent seats to home fans? Very magnanimous of him. You can see why Hull fans think he is a genius businessman.'"
Now, now, don't be cynical. The policy of more expensive North Stand tickets at the KC compared to the South Stand was wrong and criticised by most Hull supporters.
Hopefully there'll be some offers on for the Leeds Rhinos game at the KC. £19 adult tickets would be a quid cheaper than standing on the Western Terrace at Headingley or £11 cheaper than advance tickets for the centre of the Carnegie Stand.
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| charging £22 to stand at away grounds is daylight robbery!
£19 to sit with a great view is a bargain!
if there is no change to the away following this season, i would expect Pearson to revert back to the original prices
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