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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Many wakey fans don't get it. for example Agar's approach to signing players at Hull was dreadful. A nice shiney player is available and excitable little agar can hardly contain himself. Signing a creaking gate like Long or a 'car wreck' like Gleason shows dreadful judgement. Both guys may have had a bit of magic in them but not enough to build a strong sustainable team.
[uNow at wakey he signed 18 players...[/uthe kiddy in the sweetshop has gone OTT.
Glover deserves better. He must hope agar has not made the mistake of signing known creaking gates and car wrecks...that would be stupid.'"
You are slipping, thats simply not true
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Many wakey fans don't get it. for example Agar's approach to signing players at Hull was dreadful. A nice shiney player is available and excitable little agar can hardly contain himself. Signing a creaking gate like Long or a 'car wreck' like Gleason shows dreadful judgement. Both guys may have had a bit of magic in them but not enough to build a strong sustainable team.
Now at wakey he signed 18 players...the kiddy in the sweetshop has gone OTT.
Glover deserves better. He must hope agar has not made the mistake of signing known creaking gates and car wrecks...that would be stupid.'"
Last season Wakefield finished 13th, the team has been rebuilt from scratch by Richard Agar and James Elston and we will improve over the current franchise period, both on and off the pitch.
If you are so confident that this is not going to be the case, perhaps we should have some form of wager.
You seem to have a major problem with Wakefield and to a lesser extent (slightly) with Mr Agar.
Perhaps you should explain just why this is the case or seek medical assistance
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Last season Wakefield finished 13th, the team has been rebuilt from scratch by Richard Agar and James Elston and we will improve over the current franchise period, both on and off the pitch.
If you are so confident that this is not going to be the case, perhaps we should have some form of wager.
You seem to have a major problem with Wakefield and to a lesser extent (slightly) with Mr Agar.
Perhaps you should explain just why this is the case or seek medical assistance
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You are alledgedly spending much more on players this year you should expect to improve.
Why don't you and the many posters ,who want to write about me, actually try dealing with a few facts. if you think agar did a good job at hull and recruited well why not explain it. If you think still having 9/10 non UK players is good practice lets hear why? Or maybe all you can mange is name calling.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Many wakey fans don't get it. for example Agar's approach to signing players at Hull was dreadful. A nice shiney player is available and excitable little agar can hardly contain himself. Signing a creaking gate like Long or a 'car wreck' like Gleason shows dreadful judgement. Both guys may have had a bit of magic in them but not enough to build a strong sustainable team.
Now at wakey he signed 18 players...the kiddy in the sweetshop has gone OTT.
Glover deserves better. He must hope agar has not made the mistake of signing known creaking gates and car wrecks...that would be stupid.'"
You might want to check up on that bud, about half of those were signed before he came but hey don't let facts get in the way of your little rant.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"You might want to check up on that bud, [uabout half of those were signed before he came [/uhe but hey don't let facts get in the way of your little rant.'"
That is priceless. The defence of Agar is that the club signed around around 9 players without any reference to the actual / prospective head coach. What happened? Was Elston running around like a kid in a sweet shop spending 'sugar daddy Glover's money?
Oh dear
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"You might want to check up on that bud, about half of those were signed before he came but hey [udon't let facts get in the way of your little rant[/u.'"
She won't, she never does.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"She won't, she never does.'"
Do you think a club signing around 9 players in the absence of the head coach is being well run?
Do you think Agar's record at Hull was indicative of a quality coach?
Like so many wakey posters you need to write about me rather than rugby.
Mr Glover deserves better advice.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Do you think a club signing around 9 players in the absence of the head coach is being well run?
Do you think Agar's record at Hull was indicative of a quality coach?
Like so many wakey posters you need to write about me rather than rugby.
Mr Glover deserves better advice.'"
Do you think they had any choice ?
Players are available only for a short time and to wait until the new coach was not an option, unless we were to have a further season with basically an "A" team.
The expected loss of our SL licence meant that many players had signed for other teams, therefore the wafer thin squad of last season would have been thinner still.
So, yes, the club is well run and Mr Agar was the best applicant for the job.
Move on and support your own team.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Do you think they had any choice ?
Players are available only for a short time and to wait until the new coach was not an option, unless we were to have a further season with basically an "A" team.
The expected loss of our SL licence meant that many players had signed for other teams, therefore the wafer thin squad of last season would have been thinner still.
So, yes, the club is well run and Mr Agar was the best applicant for the job.
Move on and support your own team.
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Plenty of choice. For a start you could appoint a new coach much sooner. I assume this did no occur to your CEO
If agar with his dismal record as a head coach was your best applicant then it must have been a dire list.
It would appear that whiever is responsible for signings at wakey there is still a preference for overseas players rather than bring young players through. Shame.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Plenty of choice. For a start you could appoint a new coach much sooner. I assume this did no occur to your CEO
If agar with his dismal record as a head coach was your best applicant then it must have been a dire list.
It would appear that whiever is responsible for signings at wakey there is still a preference for overseas players rather than bring young players through. Shame.'"
You take this forum lark very seriously dont you. For what it is worth Agar has Trout, Wood, Walshaw and Wildie in the squad for tommorow.
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| Is this demented old bint still yapping, somebody pull it's chain.
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| Quote ="Richard1"[i[uYou take this forum lark very seriously dont you[/u[/i. For what it is worth Agar has Trout, Wood, Walshaw and Wildie in the squad for tommorow.'"
Au contraire. The opposite is true.
You need to look closer to home to find posters who take things seriously and get hot and bothered.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"[uDo you think a club signing around 9 players in the absence of the head coach is being well run? [/u
Do you think Agar's record at Hull was indicative of a quality coach?
[uLike so many wakey posters you need to write about me rather than rugby.[/u
Mr Glover deserves better advice.'"
You quite cleary lied about the signings either because you are a bit daft or a bit bitter, either way you claim something thats simply not true but you are not man enough to admit it.
You can't write about RL unless you understand it and you've proved your lack of knowledge, so i suggest you push some little kid off the swing in the park and let the bigger boys play a big boys game.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"You quite cleary lied about the signings either because you are a bit daft or a bit bitter, either way you claim something thats simply not true but you are not man
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You can't write about RL unless you understand it and you've proved your lack of knowledge, so i suggest you push some little kid off the swing in the park and let the bigger boys play a big boys game.'"
No lies. if i am inaccurate you could explain it rather than resort to your usual lightweight insults . It is something you apparently need to do. You were one of several wakey posters who started prattling on about me on a wakey thread i had not even commented upon. Oh dear.
Advocating violence against kids is probably all you are good for. Even as an analogy it is a very poor option. stretch your mind a little and come up with something less prurient. HTH
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"No bud what's priceless is your obsession with Trinity and the fact you know absolutely zero about Rugby League, you're out of your depth mate, if you're going to troll and wum, at least show a bit of brains & creativity , otherwise you just get found wanting.'"
Naa I think your pitiful attempt to defend agar takes the prize. You saying he is not responsible for all the new signings because half were made in his absence is...truely amateur. Given your pea brained defence of agar I will take your further analysis with a large pinch of salt.
But keep digging it amuses me. And if you have evidence that agar can build a long term successful team please do share it
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Naa I think your pitiful attempt to defend agar takes the prize. You saying he is not responsible for all the new signings because half were made in his absence is...truely amateur. Given your pea brained defence of agar I will take your further analysis with a large pinch of salt.
But keep digging it amuses me. And if you have evidence that agar can build a long term successful team please do share it
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I don't really want to get into a discussion with you, but, there is as little evidence to suggest it wouldn't happen as there is to suggest it would.
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| Quote ="ry21"I don't really want to get into a discussion with you, but, there is as little evidence to suggest it wouldn't happen as there is to suggest it would.'"
Take a look at his record at Hull in one of the best resourced clubs in SL. He had every possible advantage and failed miserably. That is evidence. Do you think any other CEO in SL would have appointed Agar?
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"Take a look at his record at Hull in one of the best resourced clubs in SL. He had every possible advantage and failed miserably. That is evidence. Do you think any other CEO in SL would have appointed Agar?'"
Probably not. Do you think any other CEO (like the one at Hull) would stick their nose into the day to day coaching and selection of players as much? What happened at Hull can not be used as evidence as what will happen at Wakefield. The two clubs are massively different in so many way's it's like comparing chalk and cheese.
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| Quote ="ry21"Probably not. Do you think any other CEO (like the one at Hull) would stick their nose into the day to day coaching and selection of players as much? What happened at Hull can not be used as evidence as what will happen at Wakefield. The two clubs are massively different in so many way's it's like comparing chalk and cheese.'"
I agree that it must be tempting for the CEO to tamper when the head coach is so obviously out of his depth.
The issue of CEO's being involved in selction is an interesting one. according to one wakey poster on here Elston made decisions on who to sign for half the newbies
I do not think being the head coach at one SL club is completely unrelated to being head coach at another. But if we accept your point that they are chalk and cheese.....what basis was there for giving Agar the job, other than personal friendship or a 'hunch'?
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