Saw the whole 80 mins. Kicks to touch and then a 90 sec wait while they set up for a lineout. International hookers struggling to trow a ball in straight at a lineout! One scrum took over 3 minutes to set up and eventually get played. Rucks/mauls with the ball ready to play but dimwit 9s wait an age and the game is at a stanstill. occassionally some pot bellied prop would pick up the ball run 2 metres and fall to the floor.

The bit at the end when the ball was moved quickly through hands (and wales could not do the usual boring RU rucks and mauls as time was short) + with fewer players on the pitch was indeed more exciting. As a RL fan I see that every week.
The match was a mediocre game in terms of athleticism and skill with a fight back at the end. A bit of excitement..yes. Best 5 mins of rugby ever

who is this dead beat whose going on about union?

seriously why watch such an awful sport.

Im not having a pop. Just pointing out to some peoples perspective of Union on here. Yes your correct if you say england and ireland play an awful brand of rugby. But dont tarnish other teams with the same brush. Union teams such as Wales, France and OZ play a very attacking, attractive brand of rugby.
So to answer the questin are you convinced union want to score tries. Then in regards to Wales yes. And when in the right frame of mind can be one of the most devastating teams in the world ala the last 5 mins last saturday and the 2 recent grand slams.

I like both codes of rugby and they are both have there pros and cons. 2 very enjoyable sports.

Alfie can be a hit with the Cru, he is all passion a 100%. And i dont think he would of considered going if he didnt think he could make an impact.
I say play him in the , and he could do some damage.

Seriously - I would struggle to name a current Wales RU player beyond Gavin Henson - and that's probably only because of his Mrs. I can't name any current Scotland or France RU international players. Quick straw poll of my office in Cambridge, filled with 20 and 30something blokes who mostly play some kind of sport- no-one else can either. I doubt any of them could name an RL player too, though.

i bet thats the best 5 min of union u seen in ur life

Shane Williams(wales)..? come on most excitng player i have ever seen and was international player of the year think it was 2008.

Chris Paterson(scotland) hadnt missed a kick since 2007 in 6 nations until last weekend and has 100 caps

Yanick Jauzion - french one of best in world , if not the best

PS - Gavin Henson is not a current wales international

I find this odd as any half decent Welsh Union fan would know most the England/GB team.!

Maybe its just that where all sports mad down here.!

No offence but..
If Shane Williams is the most exciting player you've ever seen I suggest you watch less union and more of the other code. Very, very good player but someone like Inglis had a highlights reel at age 20 better than Williams.

having an enema is more fun than watching union.

seriously watch some NRL sometime, youll never bother with union again.

too slow, too many mistakes, too many penalties.

NO CHANCE.. Shane instantly gets everyone to there feet as soon as he gets the ball.

Remember i said most exciting player.

whos inglis.?..

.lol..

i like both, they both have there pro and cons.

2 great sports.!

After watching the NRL it's hard watching Super League again to be honest..

If I said one very big kid that would be an understatement. Think he's about 22/23 now, aussie centre, Rugby League golden boot winner this year. =#FF0000Please read the AUP – particularly the bit about linking to stolen broadcast footage. tb

Okay tb, I'll tell the fellow to go to a famous video site and type in Greg Inglis

i do know who he is.
we not all that daft in south wales.
He is a great player Inglis, but shane just has the x factor and gets your pulse racing whenever he touches the ball. Also hes playing against top international teams 10 times a year and doing the biz aagainst them to.

not like some people not knowing who Gareth Thomas is.

Check shane williams out on famous video site namely shane williams tribute.

It's pretty poor.
He's scored some decent tries over his career, Inglis has scored more by age 22.
Williams would be a great League player, it's such a pity he stands getting cold on the wing in union.
Unions got to buck it's ideas up quickly, especially in England. I've got a cracking idea, drop it to 13 players a side, uncompetitive scrums, get rid of rucks and have 6 tackles before turning over posession

I always think that if it wasn't for historical bias, everyone would be playing Rugby league now and equally if the roles were reversed and RL had Union's rules, RL would have died out years ago.

I respect the AUP of course but god the NRL are dumb buggers. Do they really think that slow loading, chopped up mostly random clips on you tube are going to cut into their commercial business? It builds the brand you numbnuts!

hear hear, the bigots on both sides make me laugh to be honest. I remember the arch bigot Frank Keating (we still aint dead Frank, you !) saying that no one in league will want to watch scott gibbs when he was back in union, just as no one in union wanted to watch him when he was in league. I remembered that when watching gibbs putting os du randt on his in the lions tour to south africa and just thought how sad that anyone would miss this great player just becuase he happened to be playing for the wrong code at that particular moment.
still much prefer league though!

i disagree, switching would have generated interest in the south but then anyone likely to go to the rugby would have seem him play live many,many times whilst the impact in the north will be much increased just because they don't have four provinces and the national side on their door step. imagine all those kids used to watching the national side on tv can suddenly get to see the captain play on their doorstep? they'll be beating the doors down. add in henson and we will be going great guns.

are Wrexham after him too?

Gareth Thomas' career has completely passed me by - but then again, I am not part of Wrexham's target market when they are making this signing.

The only current RU players names I can think of at the moment (apart from the RL converts):

Shane Williams - Wilkinson - O'Driscoll - Cipriani - Steve Borthwick , and I wouldnt be able to pick Williams and Borthwick out of a line up.

He hasnt scored more.?
shane has scored over 150 tries.?
And some of his tries are truely amazing and some are in some huge games.!
England play crap rugby.
New rules have just come in, in super 14, no jacklin ie defender cant attempt to get ball in tackle thuis should speed the game up.!

and suit wales down to the ground.!

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its all related to this thread mate. if you read from beginning

I appreciate the thread has drifted somewhat, hence the request to continue the non Rugby League discussion on the appropriate forum. This will allow discussion of this potential signing by Crusaders to continue here.

Nah it's all cool, we're a big enough (and long-established enough) club to handle it.

Would worry about building RL in a country which doesn't give a shat about it if I was ya.

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