Hull
Saints
Wigan
Cas
Warrington
Salford
Wakey
Catalans
Huddersfield
Leeds
Hull KR
Toronto

Saints
Dull
Pie Eaters
Warrington
Leeds
Cas Vegas
Toronto
Salford
Wakey
Catalans
Huddersfield
Dull KR

CC- Dull FC.
GF- Leeds.
Promoted- Toulouse

1. Saints: No ones done enough to close the 16 point gap a great deal so still comfortably the best and it’ll be more of the same. Wouldn’t be shocked if they won the treble.
2. Wigan: Better squad than last season, not convinced by Lam but Saints aside don’t see anyone close to them.
3. Hull: average coach but have a very strong squad. Jones, Ma’u and Fonua are all excellent signings and would get into pretty much every squad.
4. Warrington: They’ll get off to a terrible start, sack Price and improve enough to get 4th. Don’t see them winning anything, questionable recruitment and a poor coach will set them back. Really don’t understand how Price is still in a job, Cup win or not.
5. Leeds: Think they’ll be average but will do enough to get 5th as the rest are poor. A full season of Lui and Gale (if he stays fit) is far better than Lolohea and Myler.
6. Cas: Squad looks weak and Trueman with Richardson in the halves will be a disaster. Powell is an excellent coach though, otherwise I’d have them lower.
7. Catalans: Same as the past few seasons. Another club who’ll regret sticking with their coach because of a Cup win.
8. Salford: Will obviously struggle with the players they’ve lost and pairing of Lolohea and Brown is possibly the worst in the league. Watson is a great coach though and they’ll do alright.
9. Huddersfield: look weak on paper but Sezer will keep them clear of relegation.
10. Toronto: thin squad full of players who have struggled at Super League level before. SBW will hardly play and just be a PR signing.
11. Wakefield: Don’t see them improving.
12. Hull KR: Some of the worst recruitment I’ve ever seen from a Super League side. Awful signings all over the place to add to an already poor team. Would love to know who signed the likes of Jamie Ellis and Will Maher.

Grand Final: Saints
Challenge Cup: Hull.

Is Price that terrible coach that's got to 3 of the 4 possible finals he could've reached? Garbage indeed. Hope we sack him and get John Kear in.

1: St Helens
16 points clear in 2019, it hard to see Saints being as good as they were but equally hard to see them being
worse enough for the gap between them and the pack to completely disappear.

2: Warrington: Good signings and a strong squad. Wire were the challengers to Saints before taking there eye of the ball in 2019 in a similar way Saints did in 2018. It is hard to see wire falling apart as much this year. The only worry is the fitness of key players that have been injury prone in the past.

3: Wigan: Consistent and hard working, Wigan are likely to be constant enough to be at the top end of the table.
The loss of Williams is offset by the signing of Hastings (however this may not be the improvement people believe it will be). The main difference will be starting the year with a fit squad and George Burgess.

4:Hull: Some quality signings will make going to the KC daunting in 2020. Constancy will be the key, at the start of the year due to the high turn over in players and near the end when they have lost focus in previous years.

5: Castleford: Smart signings in the off season and the likelihood they will have a number 7 playing for the majority of the season for the first time since they finished top, Cas can be a force this year. The only question is can they re-find the form of 2017 and stay fit.

<<Gap>>

6: Catalan: Likely to improve with Maloney at 6 and without some disruptive players that have left. Home form will be enough to get Cats up the table, however away form will leave them in mid-table

7: Leeds: Likely to be solid. Signing will improve them but not inspiring enough to believe in real change.

8. Toronto: Quality players will make them a force and will likely win a lot at home but on the road fixtures could cost them early on and and a thin squad could catch up with them later in the year.

9: Salford: Loss of key players and the element of surprise gone, Salford are unlikely to stand out.

10. Wakefield: A poor end to 2019, Wakefield need to re-find form quickly. Players returning from injury could get them up the table but they rely heavily on a small number of players.

11. Huddersfield: Will improve with Sezer and Goulding, however they were so bad in 2019 it is hard to see them achieve much more than safety.

12. Hull KR: Worst squad in the league. Signing of Abdul could improve them but heavy favorites to go down.

I was thinking the same (not about getting Kear in...)

Yes he is. The rugby is absolutely dreadful to watch, his recruitment has been shocking, you’ve had the highest paid player in SL for two seasons and both seasons finished 4th, last season in a 2 horse race. Not to mention that over the last 10 games of last season you had the least amount of points. That’s relegation form for basically three months. A home playoff defeat to a pretty crap Cas team in front of about 5,500. No Widdop might buy him some time as he’ll have an excuse when you start poorly. Surprised to see a Warrington fan defend him, one game has saved his job.

Really? Are you a salary cap auditor that you are privy to such information.

No, Roberts and Austin have still been the highest paid players over the past two seasons though.

Says who?

Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull FC
Leeds
Salford
Huddersfield
Catalan
HKR
Toronto
Wakefield

Saints
Wire
Wigan
Hull
Cas
Catalans
Leeds
Huddersfield
Salford
Toronto
Wakefield
Hull KR

GF - Wire
CC - Hull

Maybe I didn’t phrase that as well as I could have.
By “attitude problem” I wasn’t really thinking if the traditional ‘petulant teenager’ attitude (though that’s exactly what Connor has).
I was more thinking about the number of times I’ve seen their players almost collectively stop bothering when they are behind on the scoreboard. That leads to them getting a right hammering rather than a routine loss and that’s then harder to put right the following week. Look at some of those defeats last season - 63 points, 62 points, 55 points, 44 points (twice) and 40 points. That’s a team that gives up when the going gets tough. On ability, they are too good a team to suffer so many heavy defeats, so if it’s not ability then it’s down to attitude.

i think if you have to answer to Manu M'au in the changing rooms afterwards, you're going to put in for the full 80

We’ll see.
Radford himself is no shrinking violet, but they didn’t seem to worry about answering to him in the changing rooms afterwards.
The one thing I would say is that FC might have signed enough players to change that culture across the team. Time will tell.

Funny people mention Radford as being a problem, but nobosy ever mentions Powell, who despite all the fanfare around him, hasn't really achieved much, apart from one season and even then they managed to bottle the big games.

Trinity bottom again, it, hasn't happened yet but, like the Wire, it could be your year


Apart form insisting on Wakefield at the bottom, the others aren't too bad though

Wigan
Warrington
Cas
Hull FC
Leeds
Wakefield **
Salford
Huddersfield
Catalan
HKR
Toronto

This is more like it

You don’t see Cas give up like Hull do. I can remember one game since 2014 when Cas were well and truly trounced - the first game of 2018 against Saints.
That’s not to say Powell is perfect. Question marks remain about big-game mentality, and around some specific games that seem to go badly every year (St Helens and Catalans away).

I'm not just talking about just getting hammered I'm comparing Radford and Powell, lots on here mentioning Radford as the reason Hull wont do as well as expected, whilst no one ever mentions Powell, I dont understand why.

I think it's because Hull FC, under Radford, are far too inconsistent. Massive defeats, massive victories and everything else in between. Whilst you can win a cup competition in this way, you can't expect to finish high enough in a league format to have a good tilt at winning a Grand Final.
Under Powell, Cas are pretty consistent. Cas don't ever seem to go on a 'bad run' and lose a string of games like Hull do (eleven loses in a row at the end of 2018, and one win from the last 7 games of the season in 2019). Runs like that suggest Radford cannot turn around a losing team, at least not until the following season! Compare that to Cas, who in the last three seasons have never lost more than two league games in a row, and I think you see one reason why people question Radford more than Powell as a coach.
Radford cannot get his team playing consistently, and he can't turn things around when the team is under-performing. Powell can, and it's why Cas have been in the play-offs consistently whilst Hull have not. And that consistency is also why Cas have finished above Hull for five of the six seasons the two coaches have been at their respective clubs. So to answer your question, that record is why people mention Radford as the reason Hull might not do as well as expected, whilst not many think the same about Powell.

Yeah but Cas fans don`t constantly moan about Powell do they? Different club, different set of expectations (Historically, although they are probably now a lot closer than they once were). Sorry to say it but the conception of Radford comes from within your own fan base...

Powell turned a team of nobody's into a top 4 team. Even little Cas are. Still a top 4 team since 2016 or so. Yeh we bottled the GF but apart from that we don't really lose the big games. Having beat Saints in the 2017 semi final.

Where as Radford should be doing much better with his squad and facilities but just isn't. Apart from doing OK in the CC.

St Helens
Wigan
Castleford
Salford
Hull
Warrington
Leeds
Huddersfield
Catalan
Toronto
Hull KR
Wakefield

I can honestly say that as a Hull fan, I agree wholeheartedly with your post. The inconsistency within our team has been a source of great frustration for a few years now and when you have a coach that openly admits that he doesn't know how to get the best out of his players, then where do you go from there??