Well if that's the case then I'd suggest that the forum be closed down, since any direct inference to any players could be "liable" i.e. linking rumors/speculation of transfer activites, bans / suspensions etc.

It's shown as a "quote" to denote something that could theroectically happen, and is not a direct accusation against any individual, for any direct situation.

What about drop goals? either how many or first score is a drop goal?????

This scenario relies too heavily on the ref actually spotting anything.

... He's referring to the last play of the WC semi final

No that's just your interpretation.

If you think out of the box I am sure certain things could be bet on. First scrum. First penalty First knock on etc etc. it's not all about scores and cards from the ref. If you are the one who kicks off you can easily kick the ball dead from ko. This first penalty. A prop who is often first receiver from ko can knock on.
Equally as each game now has a visible clock you could transgress at a particular time. By saying its difficult to do is potentially denying it can occur.

The Asian market may well be an area that does not know about RL but equally that doesn't mean it wouldn't appeal.
I do agree though that the rewards might not be so great as football but it's all relative at the end of the day.

Libel is quite close to liable.

My mate Kev did that in the final league match of the 2005 season cost us two points git.

And then did he suddenly buy a new sports car in the close season ??????

I think the refs would be the easiest area for this sort of thing.

"10 penalties per half ref, worth a few bob if you do it"

"Send someone to the bin in the first half, buy you a pint"

"penalise the Dragons for being French, you'll be a hero in Heckmondwike"

Footy refs have have been caught doing this sort of thing (although if my memory serves me right Brian Clough was furious that Nottingham Forest got the rough end of an Anderlecht stick due to a ref and there have been a couple in recent years with dodgy pens being awarded with a German ref getting a life ban IIRC). Wonder if our refs could be tempted? Here that the badger's arms in Oldham does a rather good pint for those who could help secure SL status to the town's team.

For the benefit of retiretthename, other than the bit about the footy refs this is all very tongue in cheek, don't shout at me.

No, he did buy a round though.

I had to lay out a few Euros but I wasn't complaining when my 1000/1 shot at someone scoring on the seventh tackle came off.

Most obvious one to do easily is kick off over back line on full from kickoff.

I think you'll find you added the 'THE", so you were actually making something up other than simply digressing.


anyone investigate strange betting patterns in regards to the Fiji v Kangaroos game in Pool play at RLWC 2013?







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It's already happened..
Just google 'Ryan Tandy betting scandal'

Until unlicensed bookmakers in Asia show an interest in Rugby League this won't be a problem.

Bookmakers love football, it's such an unpredictable sport, I cannot see why unlicensed bookies in Asia would touch RL the margins are much lower than football margins.

It was simple English (might be lost on you I don't know).
There was (as is now the case) a delegation from major sports that attended the meeting. RL was one of the 5 that attended.
I put no emphasis on the "the" at all. It was simple English. "RL was one of the five" not "RL was one of [iTHE[/i five" how you wish to read it is up to you but don't try scoring any bonus points at my expense. I simply put I digress as it was not an issue for discussion. HTH.

As for the rest of the thread, I feel that to state that we are not known in the Asian market is to turn a blind eye. As things tighten up with one sport other avenues have to be explored. Its clearly very lucrative so all avenues will be looked at as a source of income, if you are one of the organisers. Lets hope it doesn't effect RL but we have to be prepared for all eventualities.

Ask Sean long about that!

There have been betting coups in the past regarding drop goals being the first scoring play in both codes of Rugby. Martin Offiah kicked one. I'm not saying that particular score involved a bet. I know a touch was landed by a Celtic nation's fans in the five nations a few years back.
Nothing crooked about that. Bookies prices have temptingly rated the likelihood of a drop goal as high as 66/1 or was it 33/1? against 7/4 for a penalty, 11/4 the try etc.
Handicap betting (where the bookies set the amount team a starts with and the amount team b needs to win by to beat it.) means people can attack /defend accordingly to land a bet at close to evens (10/11) .

I've no evidence that a struggling side has seen it's handicap and bet against themselves or that a winning team has backed themselves to beat a forecast winning margin.
Given the dire financial condition of some clubs in the game perhaps there are elements which may make certain individuals vulnerable and of course there is greed.
There are guidelines in place to discourage people directly involved in the game stepping out of line, but it would be highly naive to think it doesnt happen anymore or wont happen again as it has of course happened and will again, it is human nature.

What are peoples views on rugby league players betting on other rugby league games that they are not invovled in? Should it be banned?

If they've no involvement it's hard to ban, but since all superleague players know each other quite well, who's to say they're not giving each other inside info? Bit of a tough one

As a punter, I have no problem with it, but can see why, to the wider world, it is sensible for sportsmen not to have a bet on their sport.

really?

Let's not forget that the bookmakers have to actually offer a market first. Some of these scenarios are just daft. The most obvious one has to be the first scoring play.

Remember Tommy Martyn mention something at a Sportsman Meal, how him and Long had put money on the first point coming from a Drop Goal at Leeds a few years back (which apparently nearly came off, had it not for a charge down, IIRC, and Leeds running around to the other end to score a try).