Should just use Wembley IMO

Get real JC, the rfl paid Bradford for the Odsal lease as a means of giving a severely cash strapped club a pile of cash.
The cost of turning Odsal into some kind of wembley of the north would be prohibitive, indeed, they could build a new stadium with better viewing and facilities for less.
Besidese, the haven't bought Odsal, they just took over the lease

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Is the rugby league community ready to move the Grand Final to Wembley?

It depends on the cost of renting Wembley compared to the cost of rent OT really.

There would be some benefits to it but right now the GF makes money, something we dont have a lot of.

Salford playing every other week in a 40,000 stadium in front of 5,000 people wouldn't do anyone any good. I'd keep the Challenge Cup final at Wembley and the Super LEague Grand Final at Old Trafford, but I'd look at redevleoping Odsal with the intention of holding England mid-season internationals, Challenge Cup semi-finals and maybe even the Championship Grand Finals. A stadium which guarantees 100% of the income on match days stays within the sport is vital, even more so in the present economic climate.

We should stick with OT for the Grand Final. I wouldn't like to see the stripe of red empty Club Wembley seats at the GF

Only if they move the challenge cup final back to May or June.

How much would it actually cost to

a) build
b) run yearly

40-50k should do. That's a realistic aim for internationals, semi finals, WCC, etc. I think if it was any bigger, it'd be a white elephant. In fact, I think the only way to stop it being a white elephant would be to share it with a soccer club. There simply aren't enough internationals and other events to justify RL having their own ground, but I do think that having a "national stadium" would have benefits.

I have to completely disagree about it having to be in Manchester. There are already too huge stadiums in Manchester. We wouldn't get any business at the RL ground as the majority of bookings would be at those grounds.
I think Leeds would be an ideal location. Huge city. No 40k+ grounds in the entire county. Dead centre of the M62. Great transport links from all over the country. And most importantly, there are a lot of RL fans on the doorstep (which is very important). If it was in Manchester or Huddersfield, you'd struggle for numbers to fill it.

They should sort out the sport nevermind build a national stadium.

Possibly the most unproductive and useless post I've read on here.

Just be a man and admitt it Wellsy your response to that post is nonsense

"They should sort the sport out". How is that productive? What needs sorting? Why? How? How would a national stadium not help?

It's a throw away negative comment that means absolutely nothing.

Wrong, it's a concise statement, that clearly states that the game needs to concentrate on being better before we even remotely need to be thinking about any stadium that is purely for finals et al within RL. That you couldn't understand that & chose instead to come back with your comment is somewhat surprising.

We don't need a stadium of our 'own', our finals comparative to other games in the RL calander are so disparate in attendances that none would fill the bill anyway.

It's all pie in the sky & as the previous poster says, we should be looking at sorting the sport out, in terms of viability financially, visibility to the national populous and ensuring we have sponsors on board for all competitions for the forseeable future (that will actually pay good money for the right) before we even should be even dreaming about any new stadium for such.
Shaking down the whole structure of Red Hall & the rotten wood would be a start.

See, now that is a good post with some actual context. "Sort out the game" isn't. It is a statement with no context and is often used by a whinger. It's like when people say "the country needs sorting out", yet they don't know what's wrong with it or how to go about sorting it out without causing more problems. It's just another tired throw-away comment. "Sorting the game out" can mead absolutely anything, and for all I know, what he wants to "sort out" could make the game worse.

Some of the things you say I agree with, however having our own stadium could help. You say that our finals have disparate attendances. But perhaps having a permanent, familiar and easily accessible stadium could make this better? Perhaps it would give us more scope for RL events? Perhaps it will give us increased income in the long run (the RU grounds make a packet for their local unions). It definitely would give us more visibility. Could make us more attractive to sponsors (the ground could be sponsored for a start).

Having your own identifiable stadium could be part of "sorting the game out".

At this point in time, with cash generally becoming tighter, this shouldn't even be on the agenda.
Although the RFL are now making money out of the GF and 4N, the sport is simply not wealthy enough to fund such a project.
There is nothing wrong with the situation as it is now and if the RFL wish to move either final to another venue, it is free to do so,
The only way to have a "home" would be to play all england fixtures at one stadium, where the fans are happy to pay to watch
in good numbers and the players feel get used to playing but, the down side to this would be, not taking matches "on the road" to
increase the spectator base of the sport.
FWIW, i'd go for The Galpharm, fairly central and of course the birth place of the game.

What the RFL need is a sugar daddie and then we can build a new stadium but until that happens we will have to stay as we are

He'd have to be a seriously Big Daddy as we are talking 50 million plus for a 40,000 stadium or 100 million plus for 60-70000 and then it would be laying idle for 350 days per year.
Also 40000 wouldnt be big enough for GF of CC final and would be too big for our international games, therefore we should stay as we are.

So Leigh Sports Village, the Halliwell Jones, Langtree Park, Stobart Stadium, Salford City Stadium etc aren't modern enough? The RFL and clubs are working on modernising stadiums, but there is no point in building any stadium with a capacity in excess of 20,000, since even the bigger heartland clubs rarely attract above that number of fans.

As other posters have said, Wembley will do. We don't have a varied enough international/cup programme to justify building another.

Keep the CC final at Wembley & keep the GF at Old Trafford.

For everything else (Challenge Cup Semis, Championship GF's, England Internationals, World Club Finals even Amateur & Junior Finals.), use Odsal.

A Northern 'base' would be great for the game.

Odsal can easily hold what 25,000(?) and that's after years of suffering from no investment (discounting the coral stand). Surely the cost of upgrading Odsal to 45-50,000 is cheaper than a new build 45-50,000 stadium? The land is there and the foundations are there to build on.

Build a brand new larger 'grandstand' where the seating is now, sort out the huge terrace and put a roof on. Jobs a guddan.

Plus financially, it comes with a tennant in the Bradford Bulls and the cost of stadium maintenance etc will be alot lower than renting out of different stadiums all year.

I'm certainly glad you're not my accountant !
Odsal is a hole and its lease just happens to have been taken over by the RFL.
The Bulls aren't out of the mire yet and to spend hefty lumps of cash in this circumstance would be utterley wreckless.
At the moment, we have internationals, major semi finals plus CC final and GF.
The CC and GF attract 70-80,000 spectators and the internationals, as an average figure, 20-30,000 (I know there is potential for this to grow, but it would take a while to acheive this level of increase) also, the Bulls manage gates of around 11000 and this number would rattle round like peas in a whistle if the stadium capacity was increased to even 40,000, never mind 70,000.

I agree that using Odsal wouldn't be the best. It would cost far more to redevelop Odsal into a 40-50k ground with great facilities than it would be to start again somewhere else. Plus, sharing with an RL club would be bad for two reasons. One being that it stops it from being a "neutral venue", so couldn't be used for hypothetical finals (if there were ever new competitions) and CC semi finals. It also wouldn't come anywhere near to making the stadium efficiently used as it would only be used a few times a year and wouldn't come close to being half full for the majority of games.

For me, there isn't enough potential in the game (at present) to warrant having a stadium with a capacity significantly higher than 40-50k. Other than the two finals, what RL events do we seriously believe have the potential to sell over 50k tickets? The only two I can think of are England vs Australia games and the World Club Challenge.

And there in lies the problem. Until RL can develop a schedule that has around 10 events that could at least sell 30k+, it's a non-starter. However, I believe that the RL calendar CAN easily be developed into doing this. It's just at present there isn't any point as the extra workload in setting up these events wouldn't bring in the return due to not having a stable location. I think having a base is VERY important when it comes to event games, and there's no coincidence why the Grand Final being at Old Trafford (between the two best teams in the Northern Hemisphere) can nearly sell out every year, yet the WCC being played here there and everywhere on a random date (between the two best teams in the World) can rarely get over 30k. And personally I think the same goes for internationals. They aren't announced early enough, and people on a whole aren't that familiar with the venue for the given event. Playing at KC, DW, Galpharm, etc. doesn't feel like an event.

With the way the domestic season is currently scheduled, there isn't enough potential to add many or even any event games (either through domestic competitions or even international competitions). The SL season needs to be shorter. It needs fewer teams in it. And we need to add more competitions with finals that can get upwards of 20k at least. I suppose the return of P&R "could" give an event capable of achieving this.

Although I agree with much of what you say. To create further events in order to justify a new home is a strange type of logic.
If the RFL feel that we should play all major finals and internationals at one venue then it can be sorted. However, with the exception of the adhoc international programme, the major finals work pretty well as they are.
Perhaps we need to pick a smaller venus (25000 capacity) and get used to filling that and if and when demand starts to exceed supply then move on to a bigger capacity venue.

It would be a vanity project, unless some RL loving philanthropist wants to build it and donate it to the RFL it would just be a waste of money.