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| Call me obsessed. Call me bitter. Whatever.
But if the 50/50 decisions weren't [iincessantly[/i going wigans way I'd have nothing to call.
Exhibit A: Incorrect forward pass from greg eden gifts wigan the ball seconds before half time which results in a try.
Exhibit B: A disgraceful video ref decision gifts charnley a try. The ball touches the in goal line as well as the try line yet it unbelievably given as a try.
Exhibit C: An incorrect forward pass call against Dobson gifts wigan the position to score the decisive try.
Don't get me wrong. This isn't wigans fault, they are simply taking advantage of the opportunities they are being wrongfully given. The issue is the incompetence of the refs, and by pure luck wigan seem to be on the right side of it, over and over and over again.
The refs are incompetent. Something must be done. Even with the time to make a decision they are still screwing it up.
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| Thought Rovers were hard done to tonight if i'm honest - saying that though they had 2 or 3 kickable penalties that they chose to run so i suppose only themselves to blame in the end.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Thought Rovers were hard done to tonight if i'm honest - saying that though they had 2 or 3 kickable penalties that they chose to run so i suppose only themselves to blame in the end.'"
Are you for real?
''2 or 3 kickable penalties so only themselves to blame''
Be right back. Going for 2 points when 4 points down.
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| More exhibits:
How long does a team warning last? About 10 sets and half time later it seems as Withers gets sin binned.
If you then state that it was a dangerous tackle instead, why wasn't MacAllorum sin binned for his spear tackle?
I will also have to counterbalance this with the other try that was disallowed from the kick through that should have been given to Charnley. The other try shouldn't have been given (sideline) but this one should.
Officiating in this game is an absolute disgrace and no one can convince me otherwise.
Funny that it's got worse since Ganson started coaching them, isn't it?
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| point being they would have been level or in front had they chose to kick them instead of trying to score each time..
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"point being they would have been level or in front had they chose to kick them instead of trying to score each time..'"
It's dumb logic.
They kick one of those penalties the game then follows a different path and they don't neccessarily get the other penalties.
To beat wigan you will need to score tries. If kicking a penalty puts in front or level it's the right decision. But to kick one at 4 points down...It's just dumb logic.
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| The officiating was a joke tonight but it wasn't as one sided as you want to make out. Quite funny reading though. Charnleys try shouldn't have been given imo, But that was evened up with the other one that imo should have been.
Hull KR did nothing but slow the ptb down and mess about in the ruck all night so they can't complain about the penalty count or the team warning. Withers was rightfully sin binned. I don't know if you saw the Wigan Saints game but Blake Green was binned for being "offside" long after a team warning and if i remember correctly he wasn't even the offending player.
I'm surprised it didn't completely kick off because Silverwood just didn't take control at all. Hull KR had a clear game plan to rough things up and slow Wigan down and they nearly pulled it off.
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| robbo, both teams were as niggly as each other and both equally as guilty as slowing down and messing around, only one team got pulled for it though.
thought silverwood lost control at times personally, there seemed to be a lot going on.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"It's dumb logic.
They kick one of those penalties the game then follows a different path and they don't neccessarily get the other penalties.
To beat wigan you will need to score tries. If kicking a penalty puts in front or level it's the right decision. But to kick one at 4 points down...It's just dumb logic.'"
They had at least 2 in the space of a couple of minutes that would have levelled the score at the time......could also argue that had they kicked them, wigan wouldn't have gone on to score their last try which turned out to be the winner.
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| Quote ="Robbo"The officiating was a joke tonight but it wasn't as one sided as you want to make out. Quite funny reading though. Charnleys try shouldn't have been given imo, But that was evened up with the other one that imo should have been.
Hull KR did nothing but slow the ptb down and mess about in the ruck all night so they can't complain about the penalty count or the team warning. Withers was rightfully sin binned. I don't know if you saw the Wigan Saints game but Blake Green was binned for being "offside" long after a team warning and if i remember correctly he wasn't even the offending player.
I'm surprised it didn't completely kick off because Silverwood just didn't take control at all. Hull KR had a clear game plan to rough things up and slow Wigan down and they nearly pulled it off.'"
And Macalorums spear tackle went unpunished....
Officials are scared of Wigan. You lot cry for a penalty whenever anyone even touches Sam Tomkins. That said, scoring a Try whilst unconconscious takes some beating from last season (?)
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"They had at least 2 in the space of a couple of minutes that would have levelled the score at the time......could also argue that had they kicked them, wigan wouldn't have gone on to score their last try which turned out to be the winner.'"
The only times in that game that hull kr had a kickable penalty was when they were a try or more down on the scoreboard.
Away at wigan, more than 2 points down, you take the tap and go for the try.
To suggest they should be going for the 2 shows a lack of understanding of the modern game.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"And Macalorums spear tackle went unpunished....
Officials are scared of Wigan. You lot cry for a penalty whenever anyone even touches Sam Tomkins. That said, scoring a Try whilst unconconscious takes some beating from last season (?)'"
Bradford in 2011 iirc, after Raynor smashed him in the head?
Don't actually remember the spear tackle, Not that I'm saying it didn't happen, Just didn't see it.
Like I say, Hull KR tried their best to slow Wigan down. Eventually Wigan got involved in the arm wrestle and the result was nothing but slow niggly rucks and play the balls and a ref who seemed more than happy to let it happen until he eventually started to penalise.
The ref's are becoming a talking point of games more than the players themselves these days and it is getting ridiculous. Every game almost there is one team feeling aggrieved about decisions. I like the way the NRL games are reffed with 1 ref on either side looking at different areas of play. But we don't have enough good enough refs over here to pull it off. But the players attitudes are different too. If something isn't given they generally speaking get on with it where as here players just moan like school kids.
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| Quote ="Robbo"Bradford in 2011 iirc, after Raynor smashed him in the head?
Don't actually remember the spear tackle, Not that I'm saying it didn't happen, Just didn't see it.
Like I say, Hull KR tried their best to slow Wigan down. Eventually Wigan got involved in the arm wrestle and the result was nothing but slow niggly rucks and play the balls and a ref who seemed more than happy to let it happen until he eventually started to penalise.
The ref's are becoming a talking point of games more than the players themselves these days and it is getting ridiculous. Every game almost there is one team feeling aggrieved about decisions. I like the way the NRL games are reffed with 1 ref on either side looking at different areas of play. But we don't have enough good enough refs over here to pull it off. But the players attitudes are different too. If something isn't given they generally speaking get on with it where as here players just moan like school kids.'"
Yep, think that's the one. Time flys....
Anyway. As I've stated. All officials were bad tonight and Wigan just edged it in the decision stakes although I know some decisions for you were equally bad.
Stange how the refs have got worse since Ganson's started coaching them....
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"
Stange how the refs have got worse since Ganson's started coaching them....'"
Who would have thought it eh!?...
It says it all when you wish the likes of Fitzpatrick and Russel Smith where around, Heck I'd even take back Ashley Klein!
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| Quote ="Robbo"Who would have thought it eh!?...
It says it all when you wish the likes of Fitzpatrick and Russel Smith where around, Heck I'd even take back Ashley Klein!'"
I'd take back Bob Connolly.
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| Wonder Who's turn it was to drive to the bookies? Silverwood or Child?
Loads of terrible decisions, all 1 way is the shocking part!!
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| As a Hull fan I fear for us at Wembley when even the mighty hull kr are humbled by wigan reserves
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"As a Hull fan I fear for us at Wembley when even the mighty hull kr are humbled by wigan reserves'"
Wow glad Rovers where at full strength to face Wigan.......................Oh wait we had six players missing and lost Coxy after four minutes of the game.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"As a Hull fan I fear for us at Wembley when even the mighty hull kr are humbled by wigan reserves'"
Laugh now. Cry into your beer next Sunday at about 3.30.
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| Hull KR had plenty of chances of their own and didn't convert them.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Hull KR had plenty of chances of their own and didn't convert them.'" Oh that makes it alright then
Child's decision was that it touched the try line first...........Erm James that is as poor an excuse as 'tracked the wrong player' as in it makes no sense to anyone with eyes.
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| Exhibit D. Hansen was blatantly obstructed thus allowing Dobson a clear run for his try.
Oh sorry, is this just a thread for the calls that went Wigan's way?
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Exhibit D. Hansen was blatantly obstructed thus allowing Dobson a clear run for his try.
Oh sorry, is this just a thread for the calls that went Wigan's way?'"
So, after stating....
O'Laughlin's spear tackle going unpunished
The in touch try by Charnley that shouldn't have been given
The no try by Charnley that probably should have been given
The two forward passes from Rovers that weren't
The forward pass leading to a Wigan try that was missed
The sin bin of Withers for either a dangerous tackle (see O'Laughlin's spear tackle above) or team warning from a century ago
You come up with this?
Weak.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"So, after stating....
O'Laughlin's spear tackle going unpunished
The in touch try by Charnley that shouldn't have been given
The no try by Charnley that probably should have been given
The two forward passes from Rovers that weren't
The forward pass leading to a Wigan try that was missed
The sin bin of Withers for either a dangerous tackle (see O'Laughlin's spear tackle above) or team warning from a century ago
You come up with this?
Weak.'"
Would you like a monocle for your one eye?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Call me obsessed. Call me bitter. Whatever.
But if the 50/50 decisions weren't [iincessantly[/i going wigans way I'd have nothing to call.
Exhibit A: Incorrect forward pass from greg eden gifts wigan the ball seconds before half time which results in a try.
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Just because those 2 clowns Eddie and Stevo say it wasn't forward, doesn't make it so.
It was a forward pass !
That's why they have lines on the field, to help in making decisions.
None of this momentum rule rubbish applys, as he was almost on the floor and grounded anyway.
The Charnley try I thought was debatable, as it could well have been into touch in goal.
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