Is there now no doubt that he is the best player in the history of super league, and the most underrated player at the same time, he just keeps doing it over and over again. The greatest

He's no Todd Flanders though.

he showed again tonight that he his streets ahead of flanders as a rugby league player.

a true great of SL. He was brilliant tonight in everything he did. I only noticed flanders was playing tonight when there was someone on the floor for him to drop on.

Sinfield delivers when it counts. For Leeds that is, never his country.

Sinfield would be a great if he could do it more than just once in a while.

He's done it week in week out for 11 seasons!

77 games in a row without missing a game I believe

And listed below are the players who have delivered for England / GB in the SL era:









That is all

I don't agree with that considering his team has finished 4th, 5th and 5th again in the last 3 years in what is effectively a 4 team league? not that consistent. He's consistent brilliant in the playoffs though, i'll give you that, but its only 1 month a season????

He plays the game like a 7 in a 13s body. I dont like the way he tries to referee games but last night he was immaculate, particularly first half.

dont judge a man by his weekly consistency judge him by his challenge cup winners medals and lance todd trophies........
Lee Briers and Sean long (man of steel?) legends of the game above him!!

i am not a leeds fan but you are having a joke i hope

surely not?
I do not see him as a legend of the game though, thinking about the immortals and people who have been inducted over in aus - he would not make first five nominations for me for me. When you look at players we would include over here - bevan, risman, foster, van vollen, betts, platt, farrell, sculthorpe, newlove, robinson, offiah, schofield, hanley, edwards etc.
Legend ? is he even best 6 or 13 in past ten years? farrell, sculthorpe, o'loughlin all better loose forwards and at six barret, pryce ,mcguire, briers all had times when they have been best 6 over here. Legend at leeds maybe but legend of the game not convinced. decent enough player but never done it at international level.

He must have done something to be nominated for the Golden Boot Award, no?

Errs, don't think Newlove should be added to a list of legends.

Sinfield is different because he is an all rounder. He makes others better players and is above average at everything.

For me we need to give him a decent run for England, as captain.

Kevin Sinfield is a very special rugby league footballer. Yes he may not have turned it on in international games but how many can hold their hand up and say they have? He's had a great career and deserves a hell of a lot of respect.

Sinfield is excellent for Leeds and is a top captain.
On the field, apart from his kicking game, he doesn't seem to do anything extravagant, but certainly inspires and motivates his team.
At international level he just doesn't have the same level of input or authority but, for Leeds, he's their most important player.

A great captain and kicker, a very average player in open play.

when he's played at hooker for england he's been brilliant....so much so wally lewis said england should build a team around him

You don't achieve what Sinfield has by being average

Sinfield's problem is that he doesnt fit peoples expectation of what a player playing a certain position should do. Rather than looking at Sinfield on his own merits, he is judged against some hypothetical check list of skills a player in a certain position should be.

Thats why we get comments like 'not big enough for a lock, not fast enough for a stand off'. Sinfield is probably the best defensive stand-off in RL, he may not be as fast as some but he is stronger than most, he may not bust too many tackles, or make that many breaks, but he has a very good offload game and makes lots of metres and takes lots of tackles. Forget the number on his back and look at what he contributes and you will see a very very good player.

Wait a minute... you know Sinfield has won a Lance Todd right Bully?

Especially not by being "very" average



You don't need to be flashy to be brilliant. Leeds are a poorer side without him with the way he can control the game and steady the ship. Lucky he doesn't miss many games, then!

Smokey TA i disagree and not just winding up now - I have watched and a lot of his tackles he is not the main man he makes a lot of third man in tackle (which still need making do not get me wrong) but that is not the sign of a strong defensive 6. He rarely takes on the line and thus his limited clean breaks or busts - as a 6 in the junior league he used to do this often, a stand off does not need to be quick a fair few have made breaks with men in support who are faster I remember people like craigie or bradley not graced with pace but provided a few breaks and tries were conceded off this. If you look at the stats (not the only reason to judge a player i know) for a player regarded as so creative (somone who does not take many hit ups or make many 1:1 tackles for a forward should be creative) he is not somone who fits in a box. Thing is when you look at the side he has played loose forward because mcguire ticks more boxes at six than he does and burrow was predominantly a 7 until recently. He is a great leader and does organise things but is that not what forshaw was doing as water carrier?
the reason he struggles at international level is he is not good enough as an out an out 6 or 13 and against australia you cant carry players because they are good at goal kicking.

One thing is that Sinfield has really never had a decent spell out through injury during his career. If he were to miss say at least 8-10 games from injury then i think you would see the massive difference of not having him around. Because he's always been there i don't think people really know what he gives until the time comes when it's gone.