....has to be England full back ahead of Tomkins.

if he behaves himself

Very true.

Tomkins place to lose. Has he played bad this season.
Being the England fullback is an off field duty aswell as on field too.
He is having a stormer this season though.

They are both too talented to be left out of the team, both can and should be accommodated.

What a try that was though, a joy to watch.

didn't like the way he stopped playing until he was awarded a penalty, not good,he should have been pealised for not playing the ball IMO,very poor reffing from Child i thought.what was said on commentary? ( i mute the volume when it's Leeds at home!)

other than that had a great game and what a try!

So there are times people DON'T mute the sound on Sky???? Always muted here.

Hardaker is comfortably better than Tomkins now. He's developing and kicking on. He might not be as dangerous as an individual as Tomkins, but he is vastly superior defensively.

Hardaker HAS to start the series at 1 for England. For me Tomkins isn't a fullback, his returns are poor, weak under the high ball, can't tackle. Still a devastating attacking player, so if we had a scheming half back, I'd Tomkins at 6.

There speaks a man who has never had him break through the bedroom window in the middle of the night.

usually don't mind the inane waffling of hemmings and stevo but i've had years of experience getting my ears poisoned by those prostitutes with the trumpets and i can't bear the sound of them. or indeed the foul and abusive language from their lackeys

1. Hardaker
6. Tomkins
7. Widdop
9. Roby
14. Hodgson /MccIlorum/Clark

Why on earth would you feel the need to mute the volume?

Yet you're a Hudds fan who supports Danny Brough!

The irony.

because i can't listen to the awful noise from the south stand.

and i don't remember broughy not playing until the ref has given a penalty, i can't remember seeing many, if any player do that before.

That's what I'd love to see.

Though I was surprised a penalty was awarded, Lots of players pause and look at the ref questioning a penalty exactly as Hardaker did, he didn't refuse to play the ball it was Momentary. The ref normally tells them to get on with it.

Starbug here

Zachary is and always has Been a good player , strong runner , good under the ball and a good defender , pity he's always been a tit as well , can he grow up enough to become the best in the world ?

Probably not , but still the best we have currently

You can't remember seeing a player stand up before PTB and complain about a possible penalty? Have you only started watching RL this weekend?

A big part of it is whether Hardaker has burnt his bridges with SM. it would be good to accommodate both, I'd like to see England give it a go but I'm not convinced by Tomkins to #6. He's not played there since his first season at Wigan.

The reason Hardaker delays playing the ball for so long is that Child is actually in the process of giving a penalty but he fumbles with his whistle but is already extending his arm to indicate a penalty. That's why Hardaker's looking at the ref for longer than normal. Otherwise he'd have pleaded with the ref for a second and then played the ball.

I'm not surprised the Huddersfield fan is nervous of large crowds.

I follow the Warriors, probably because I was so interested to see how Tomkins would do in the NRL. I'm sad to say he's progressively getting worse every week and I wouldn't have him near the #1 jersey for England. With Johnson injured I'd like to see him pushed into the halves but it won't happen. His devastating play as a FB at Wigan is a distant memory and I think he'd be much more effective in the 6 or 7 jersey.

For the record I don't think Widdop has been anywhere near good enough for a Test call-up this year either. No doubt both these men will walk straight into the England side though.

That said - Widdop has had a stormer today! With Marshall off injured for most of the game.

Tomkins again failed to perform. Dropping his regulation bomb.

That part seems to be fine. The WC exit was 2013 yet Hardaker was in the 2014 4N squad down under, he just didn't get a game ahead of Tomkins.